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Jun 14, 2019 13:32:40 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 13:32:40 GMT
Was math an invention, or a discovery?
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Jun 16, 2019 10:14:16 GMT
Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 16, 2019 10:14:16 GMT
Discovery.
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Jun 16, 2019 17:06:50 GMT
Post by politicidal on Jun 16, 2019 17:06:50 GMT
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Jun 18, 2019 15:06:19 GMT
Post by llanwydd on Jun 18, 2019 15:06:19 GMT
Kind of both.
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Jun 18, 2019 15:13:50 GMT
Post by theauxphou on Jun 18, 2019 15:13:50 GMT
Innovation.
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Jun 18, 2019 21:56:42 GMT
Post by llanwydd on Jun 18, 2019 21:56:42 GMT
This is the way I look at it. Every action has an opposite reaction. That gives us the number 2. Action (1) - Reaction (2). This is the principle that gives us math. By multiplying or dividing by two we can get any other number. That is apriori. Nobody invented it. This principle give us the means for taking inventory. 2 is the basic number and from that we get math.
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2019 0:54:47 GMT
This is the way I look at it. Every action has an opposite reaction. That gives us the number 2. Action (1) - Reaction (2). This is the principle that gives us math. By multiplying or dividing by two we can get any other number. That is apriori. Nobody invented it. This principle give us the means for taking inventory. 2 is the basic number and from that we get math. 2 is not possible without 1. As a matter of fact, 2 is just two 1's. That makes 1 not only the basic number, but the only number, and only as opposed to 0. To those who say everything is not black and white (ie, zero and one), I say, "Is that true? Or not?" ps. I like your avatar.
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Jun 20, 2019 1:27:18 GMT
Post by llanwydd on Jun 20, 2019 1:27:18 GMT
Thank you for your reply. I think you misunderstood my approach. Action and reaction equal two. They are apriori. They exist eternally without ever having been created. In a sense you could say that there is never only one of anything because anything that looks like just one thing is made of many actions and reactions. So it is made of a whole lot of twos. You need a lot of twos to make up one. So I would say that two is the basic number.
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Jun 20, 2019 1:34:47 GMT
Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2019 1:34:47 GMT
Thank you for your reply. I think you misunderstood my approach. Action and reaction equal two. They are apriori. They exist eternally without ever having been created. In a sense you could say that there is never only one of anything because anything that looks like just one thing is made of many actions and reactions. "Action and reaction" refers to physics. Numbers are not physical. They neither act nor react. I don't know what the second statement means, but all those twos are made up of ones.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 23, 2019 23:33:51 GMT
You are correct, sir. The longer story is that math begins with the development of a set of symbols (a type of "invention") to most accurately describe reality (as "discovered"). It is as you guessed the discovery that determines the set of symbols, not the set of symbols that determines the discovery.
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Jun 24, 2019 3:11:09 GMT
Post by llanwydd on Jun 24, 2019 3:11:09 GMT
You are correct, sir. The longer story is that math begins with the development of a set of symbols (a type of "invention") to most accurately describe reality (as "discovered"). It is as you guessed the discovery that determines the set of symbols, not the set of symbols that determines the discovery. I doubt the human race (or even many other species) could exist without the ability to keep inventory and therefore man and math are a continuum. But all numbers are apriori and therefore cannot be invented.
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Jun 24, 2019 14:59:42 GMT
Post by general313 on Jun 24, 2019 14:59:42 GMT
This is the way I look at it. Every action has an opposite reaction. That gives us the number 2. Action (1) - Reaction (2). This is the principle that gives us math. By multiplying or dividing by two we can get any other number. That is apriori. Nobody invented it. This principle give us the means for taking inventory. 2 is the basic number and from that we get math. Um, no, for example the number 3.
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