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Post by James Bond on Jun 24, 2019 16:47:22 GMT
Chrome has about 7 times the market share of Firefox, takes about a half to a third as much RAM (at least for me, anyway), starts up quicker (again, at least for me; and, yes, I do have Firefox Quantum), plays animated GIFs, animated PNGs, and HTML5 video much better, so I'm seriously tempted to choose Chrome. But then so many people I talk to seem to prefer Firefox, and also Chrome is of course Google so bye bye, privacy. Which do all you guys think I should go with?
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Post by politicidal on Jun 24, 2019 16:56:49 GMT
I'm just more used to Firefox. But Chrome is perfectly fine.
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Post by bd74 on Jun 24, 2019 17:14:11 GMT
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jun 24, 2019 17:17:55 GMT
I simply keep both on my rig (which also came with Edge pre-installed). Chrome is my daily browser, but Firefox offers a broader range of free add-ons and extensions that I sometimes like to use.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 24, 2019 18:29:29 GMT
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 25, 2019 1:41:28 GMT
Firefox ; hands down.
Chrome is known to be a RAM hog where as Firefox has been better in this regard and I think this is more pronounced if you have plenty of tabs open, which I usually do and I leave my browser running for several days at least since I leave my PC on pretty much 24/7 and the browser generally stays loaded when the computer is on.
I have been basically on Firefox since before it's official v1.0 release (so basically 15+ years). well I did use Pale Moon x64 for some years in there but that's pretty much a Firefox variation. but I have been back on official Firefox for a while now. I have never been a fan of Chrome as the overall feel of it with extensions etc I think Firefox is all around better.
at the end of the day... you can't really lose with either since those two are the most popular. in a way, I think Firefox might be a little more secure since people usually go after what's popular as your a bit more off the radar with Firefox than with Chrome. still, at the same time while everyone likes to dis Google, they do seem to take security more seriously than a lot of other random places online.
for the record... anyone on Firefox or Chrome, the first extension I would install is uBlock Origin (by Raymond Hill) as it removes a lot of ads online and makes your browsing experience much better. also, as a general rule avoid installing too many extensions as the less the better. plus, only install extensions you trust as this helps minimize the risk of something shady getting onto your computer and I suggest everyone make sure Adobe Flash is not installed as it's just a security risk and I would also avoid Java to.
p.s. I only have Chrome installed as a backup browser.
NOTE: those using Firefox make sure your browser is updated as there is a serious 0-day flaw in versions prior to v67.0.3/v67.0.4. basically make sure your on v67.0.4 and your good.
Try loading up a bunch of tabs and leave the browser running for a while under normal use... I think you will find Chrome is the RAM hog, not Firefox. I think it's generally common knowledge that Chrome eats up more RAM than Firefox.
but if your one of those people who loads up their browser, browses a couple of websites, and then closes it, it's probably not going to matter which browser you choose. or if you got sufficient RAM, like say 8GB, or especially more.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Jun 25, 2019 3:55:23 GMT
I use both, but donate $ to Mozilla.
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Post by TheSowIsMine on Jun 25, 2019 12:09:03 GMT
They both use loads of RAM and CPU.
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Post by ghostintheshell on Jun 25, 2019 12:57:01 GMT
Ive used several browers over the years and Chrome just eats up your RAM, it's not the best browser if you like multitasking/or running another apps in the background. Your tabs can get laggy when you do that.
Firefox loads webpages faster and also is the safest one from what I hear. I also like their new UI but havent bothered to transfer my chrome data yet.
Opera is meh.
Edge isnt very responsive.
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Post by Lucy on Jun 25, 2019 18:53:03 GMT
These days, it's Firefox for me.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 25, 2019 21:36:47 GMT
But WHY do you prefer whichever you prefer?
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Post by jamesbamesy on Jun 25, 2019 21:57:11 GMT
I myself prefer Chrome. Not sure I ever used Firefox, and if I did it didn’t work.
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 25, 2019 22:32:47 GMT
TheSowIsMineSure, neither is super light on resources as the modern web is just more resource hungry than it once was. but between the two... Firefox is the overall lighter browser and people who prefer more privacy tend to like Firefox over Chrome from what I have heard. also, just about everyone should have at least 4GB of RAM on their computer as those who have less than that probably have a pretty old computer in which case they are better off installing something like Linux Mint ( www.linuxmint.com/ ; which is free (basically if you have a computer with WinXP on it, get rid of it and install Linux Mint and you can use it securely online unlike WinXP) ) on it as that's works with 1GB of RAM although 2GB+ is recommended for more of a smooth experience and damn near everyone should have at least 1-2GB of RAM on their computer unless it's ancient. although if someone has 8GB of RAM or more (I got 8GB on my PC) chances are you can use either Firefox or Chrome and you don't have to worry too much as with Firefox I tend not to use more than around 40-60% of my total RAM under my typical usage and that's with plenty of tabs open and the browser is running for days. ghostintheshellHow much RAM does your computer have? I suspect those with 4GB or less could see a benefit using Firefox over Chrome. but if your system has 8GB of RAM or more this might not be a issue and if you got 16GB+ you should be golden since that's a overkill amount of RAM for most uses. I tend to consider 8GB the sweet spot for years now as 8GB is finally at that point to where it won't be a issue for a large portion of people where as back in the day when we had 256MB to 512MB to 1GB to 2GB to 4GB, lack of RAM was more of a issue but once we reached 8GB, RAM stopped being a potential problem for a sluggish system. sure, if someone plays modern games, 16GB would be a good idea but short of that (or maybe those who edit video etc) 8GB is plenty. p.s. I have had 8GB since I bought my motherboard/CPU/RAM back in May 2012 and here is is 7+ years later and 8GB is still solid for general usage etc. In terms of being secure online I would imagine you can't really lose either way. although from what I read online it appears Chrome might have a slight lead. but main thing is... if your using either Chrome or Firefox you probably don't have much to worry about where as with Microsoft browsers they tend to do worse.
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Post by Morgana on Jun 26, 2019 9:05:31 GMT
Firefox ; hands down.Chrome is known to be a RAM hog where as Firefox has been better in this regard and I think this is more pronounced if you have plenty of tabs open, which I usually do and I leave my browser running for several days at least since I leave my PC on pretty much 24/7 and the browser generally stays loaded when the computer is on. I have been basically on Firefox since before it's official v1.0 release (so basically 15+ years). well I did use Pale Moon x64 for some years in there but that's pretty much a Firefox variation. but I have been back on official Firefox for a while now. I have never been a fan of Chrome as the overall feel of it with extensions etc I think Firefox is all around better. at the end of the day... you can't really lose with either since those two are the most popular. in a way, I think Firefox might be a little more secure since people usually go after what's popular as your a bit more off the radar with Firefox than with Chrome. still, at the same time while everyone likes to dis Google, they do seem to take security more seriously than a lot of other random places online. for the record... anyone on Firefox or Chrome, the first extension I would install is uBlock Origin (by Raymond Hill) as it removes a lot of ads online and makes your browsing experience much better. also, as a general rule avoid installing too many extensions as the less the better. plus, only install extensions you trust as this helps minimize the risk of something shady getting onto your computer and I suggest everyone make sure Adobe Flash is not installed as it's just a security risk and I would also avoid Java to. p.s. I only have Chrome installed as a backup browser. NOTE: those using Firefox make sure your browser is updated as there is a serious 0-day flaw in versions prior to v67.0.3/v67.0.4. basically make sure your on v67.0.4 and your good. Try loading up a bunch of tabs and leave the browser running for a while under normal use... I think you will find Chrome is the RAM hog, not Firefox. I think it's generally common knowledge that Chrome eats up more RAM than Firefox. but if your one of those people who loads up their browser, browses a couple of websites, and then closes it, it's probably not going to matter which browser you choose. or if you got sufficient RAM, like say 8GB, or especially more. I thought Flash and Java were necessary. If I remove them what programs can i get to replace them?
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 26, 2019 11:15:49 GMT
Morgana You likely won't need replacements as YouTube uses HTML5 for video(which is built-in the browser as you don't need to do anything), Flash is not needed at all (Flash used to be needed years ago but it's been mostly phased out on all of the decent websites by now). Java is likely not needed unless you got something specific that uses it. also, don't confuse Java with JavaScript as JavaScript is needed (this is not something you install as the browser just uses it unless you install a extension like 'no-script' etc. but with No-Script it will break alot of sites and basically requires manual configuration etc) but most won't need Java. if your on Firefox you can check to see whether Flash/Java are installed or not by going to 'Add-ons' and then 'Plugins'. remove, or at least disable them if they are there. if you don't really see anything, they are not installed on Firefox.
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Post by Morgana on Jun 26, 2019 16:42:31 GMT
Morgana You likely won't need replacements as YouTube uses HTML5 for video(which is built-in the browser as you don't need to do anything), Flash is not needed at all (Flash used to be needed years ago but it's been mostly phased out on all of the decent websites by now). Java is likely not needed unless you got something specific that uses it. also, don't confuse Java with JavaScript as JavaScript is needed (this is not something you install as the browser just uses it unless you install a extension like 'no-script' etc. but with No-Script it will break alot of sites and basically requires manual configuration etc) but most won't need Java. if your on Firefox you can check to see whether Flash/Java are installed or not by going to 'Add-ons' and then 'Plugins'. remove, or at least disable them if they are there. if you don't really see anything, they are not installed on Firefox. I use Chrome, but thank you.
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 26, 2019 22:01:51 GMT
Morgana since your on Chrome... I took a quick look on Chrome and you can disable Flash by doing this... chrome://settings/content/flash (put that address into your Chrome browser and press enter) ; once that loads in Chrome where it shows 'Ask first (recommended)' to the right of that is the blue slider and slide it towards the left (with your mouse pointer like usual) and that text will switch to 'Block sites from running Flash'. Flash is now completely disabled on Chrome, which is safer than it's default state. as far as Java... my guess is unless you manually installed Java, it's probably not installed  NOTE: you can pretty much see whether it's installed in the 'add/remove programs' section in Windows itself as if you don't see anything related to Java, it's basically not installed.
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Post by rogerthat on Jun 27, 2019 0:27:16 GMT
Anything but Edge.
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Post by Morgana on Jun 27, 2019 10:42:00 GMT
Morgana since your on Chrome... I took a quick look on Chrome and you can disable Flash by doing this... chrome://settings/content/flash (put that address into your Chrome browser and press enter) ; once that loads in Chrome where it shows 'Ask first (recommended)' to the right of that is the blue slider and slide it towards the left (with your mouse pointer like usual) and that text will switch to 'Block sites from running Flash'. Flash is now completely disabled on Chrome, which is safer than it's default state. as far as Java... my guess is unless you manually installed Java, it's probably not installed NOTE: you can pretty much see whether it's installed in the 'add/remove programs' section in Windows itself as if you don't see anything related to Java, it's basically not installed. Thank you so much for your help.
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Post by Nora on Jun 27, 2019 11:12:00 GMT
omg that woman’s performance was so cringeworthy - she clearly knew she was lying and avoiding telling the truth and wasn’t comfortable with it but kept spinning the (probably legal fed) BS anyway. I really hope one day Google will pay for all its lies and privacy infringement. same with Facebook. Who of course is Googles best friend. Awful. I use Chrome more out of habit but have had better results inn firefox regarding opening different files/playing diff formats. |
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NOTE: you can pretty much see whether it's installed in the 'add/remove programs' section in Windows itself as if you don't see anything related to Java, it's basically not installed.
