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Post by hobowar on Jun 27, 2019 21:16:09 GMT
"After Endgame, the mcu is finished" - Idiots (2019)
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 27, 2019 22:00:15 GMT
and it's certfied now...
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Post by James on Jun 27, 2019 22:17:43 GMT
Even though I don't like what they're doing with Mysterio, I have faith in this movie, even if I'm a little burned out after Endgame TBH.
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Post by hobowar on Jun 27, 2019 22:21:14 GMT
Even Moviebob likes it.
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Post by poutinep on Jun 27, 2019 23:07:22 GMT
No it wasn't, it was the third best. No, Homecoming was definitely the worst. Aside from the fact that Peter's entire motivation for being a superhero wasn't because of any "great responsibility" but simply to show-off and try to impress an egotistical billionaire, Homecoming was more of an Iron Man movie than a Spider-Man movie. Iron Man is in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie. Iron Man saves Spider-Man's ass when Vulture drops him in the water and then comes to the rescue again when the ferry boat is split in half. And WTF with Spider-Man needing to use an AI suit given to him by Iron Man instead of using his own powers? It would be like a Superman movie in which Superman uses Batarangs and Bat-grenades or a Wonder Woman movie in which Wonder Woman uses a Green Lantern ring. Spider-Man is supposed to have his own powers. Why does Spider-Man have to be War Machine 2.0? He was Spider-Man before he even met Tony. He defeated Toomes in the end without Tony's Spider Suit. You didn't watch Homecoming either LOL sad.
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Post by blockbusted on Jun 28, 2019 2:15:35 GMT
I'm sorry, but how can anyone look at 'The Amazing Spider-Man 2' and 'Spider-Man: Homecoming' and think the latter is worse? The former is a bad amalgamation of 'Spider-Man 3' (too many stories) and 'The Amazing Spider-Man' (lousy villain)!
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Post by blockbusted on Jun 28, 2019 2:19:34 GMT
88% RT. How do they do it? I mean keeping the movies fresh is one thing, but every movie is high-80’s low 90’s like clockwork. What was the last movie even in the 70’s? All the way back to 2013? Simple. Ike Perlmutter is out of the picture.
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Post by dazz on Jun 28, 2019 3:42:24 GMT
No it wasn't, it was the third best. No, Homecoming was definitely the worst. Aside from the fact that Peter's entire motivation for being a superhero wasn't because of any "great responsibility" but simply to show-off and try to impress an egotistical billionaire, Homecoming was more of an Iron Man movie than a Spider-Man movie. Iron Man is in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie. Iron Man saves Spider-Man's ass when Vulture drops him in the water and then comes to the rescue again when the ferry boat is split in half. And WTF with Spider-Man needing to use an AI suit given to him by Iron Man instead of using his own powers? It would be like a Superman movie in which Superman uses Batarangs and Bat-grenades or a Wonder Woman movie in which Wonder Woman uses a Green Lantern ring. Spider-Man is supposed to have his own powers. Why does Spider-Man have to be War Machine 2.0? Dear boy I am afraid you a merely too intellectually inferior to comprehensively grasp the vast complexity of character dynamics manifested in such a work of cinematic extravagance, if your mind was not so substandard you would realise the error in your comprehension and recognise the true meaning behind the film.
AKA YOU TOO DUMB FUCKER!!!
Peter's motivation isn't to be a hero to impress Stark, his motivation is to become an Avenger which he feels he needs to impress Stark to become, impressing Stark isn't the goal it's the means to an end, eter wants to be a hero being an Avenger means more chances to do so hence wanting to become an Avenger, this is why when Peter is told no repeatedly by Tony, even getting his suit taken back from him it doesn't deter him from being Spider-Man, he feels dejected but the moment he has info to act on he does, even without his suit, his determination to be a hero and his ability to succeed despite the odds being against him Tony relents and welcomes Peter into the Avengers, when Tony tells him what this entails, leaving Aunt MAy's for one Peter balks at it, not because he doesn't want to be a hero but because he recognises what he can do as a street level hero still, it's the story of fucking being a teenager, Peter is rushing to be an Avenger aka a man, so much so he doesn't take the time to appreciate his life he has, he just see's what he is being told what he cannot do not what he can, but in the end when offered the chance to take the next step Peter realises what he has, what he doesn't need to give up yet and he chooses to remain a kid aka a neighbourhood Spider-Man, he's not running from responsibility just appreciating his youth.
As for his suit that's a point of the movie, Peter believes the suit makes him Spider-Man but it doesn't, Peter IS Spider-Man, not the suit, the suit just has gadgets to help him but at the end of the day relying on his suit he kept failing, when he relies on his tech and his abilities he stops The Vulture, proving what Tony tells him in the movie, if you need the suit to be a hero you don't deserve it, Peter proves he is a hero without the suit hence earning it back by the end of the movie.
Aunt May is in the beginning middle and end of pretty much every Spider-Man movie same for MJ or Gwen it doesn't make it their movies, Spider-Man drives the plot of the movie, hence it is his movie, Tony doesn't, Tony barely impacts the movie, him giving Peter the suit doesn't set him on his path to being Spider-Man as he was doing that before he met Tony, Tony's advise is ignored, Tony taking the suit away doesn't stop or hinder Peter confronting Vulture in the climax of the movie or prevent him from defeating him, and Tony offering Peter a place of the avengers is turned down, so it's not like that is the big hurrah moment of the film either, Tony is garnish, Peter/Spidey is the fucking Steak & Chips of the whole bloody movie.
Now go stick yah head in a shitter where your brains belong you daft bint.
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Post by miike80 on Jun 28, 2019 8:15:26 GMT
Another MCU movie with a high score? Guys, i'm worried about DC-FAN
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Post by merh on Jun 28, 2019 8:16:16 GMT
Not bad, Homecoming also has a 92%. And Homecoming was the worst Spider-Man movie ever. Nope. I know I have loved Thor & Cap since around 1966. Spidey was somewhere between that & the live action show in 78. (I remember how disappointing it was. The wall crawling. Bad. It needed to look natural to the character). Pretty sure it was the 1967 animated show that got me into the character. Maybe saw him in the Thor or Cap comics I read. He was more of an evolved into liking as opposed to falling in love with Thor & Cap as protectors as far back as I can remember. Holland's Spidey captures the young Spidey. Maguire was the college Spidey. This is why I suspect we will get the teen X-Men which will allow for a longer shelf life.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 28, 2019 8:29:41 GMT
And Homecoming was the worst Spider-Man movie ever. Nope. I know I have loved Thor & Cap since around 1966. Spidey was somewhere between that & the live action show in 78. (I remember how disappointing it was. The wall crawling. Bad. It needed to look natural to the character). Pretty sure it was the 1967 animated show that got me into the character. Maybe saw him in the Thor or Cap comics I read. He was more of an evolved into liking as opposed to falling in love with Thor & Cap as protectors as far back as I can remember. Holland's Spidey captures the young Spidey. Maguire was the college Spidey. This is why I suspect we will get the teen X-Men which will allow for a longer shelf life. I seem to remember a Japanese Spiderman movie. (or it could've been like a few episodes combined together of a tv show marketed as a movie when I was a kid) with large robots that was atrocious.
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Post by kleinreturns on Jun 28, 2019 8:41:20 GMT
What was the last movie even in the 70’s? Captain Marvel currently has a 78%. Prior to that, the last MCU movie with a score in the 70% range was AoU. And even then neither of those two movies are bad.
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Post by merh on Jun 28, 2019 9:59:26 GMT
Nope. I know I have loved Thor & Cap since around 1966. Spidey was somewhere between that & the live action show in 78. (I remember how disappointing it was. The wall crawling. Bad. It needed to look natural to the character). Pretty sure it was the 1967 animated show that got me into the character. Maybe saw him in the Thor or Cap comics I read. He was more of an evolved into liking as opposed to falling in love with Thor & Cap as protectors as far back as I can remember. Holland's Spidey captures the young Spidey. Maguire was the college Spidey. This is why I suspect we will get the teen X-Men which will allow for a longer shelf life. I seem to remember a Japanese Spiderman movie. (or it could've been like a few episodes combined together of a tv show marketed as a movie when I was a kid) with large robots that was atrocious. Never saw it. I have the anime for Supernatural. And I think the Iron Man one.
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Post by sostie on Jun 28, 2019 12:31:06 GMT
Nope. I know I have loved Thor & Cap since around 1966. Spidey was somewhere between that & the live action show in 78. (I remember how disappointing it was. The wall crawling. Bad. It needed to look natural to the character). Pretty sure it was the 1967 animated show that got me into the character. Maybe saw him in the Thor or Cap comics I read. He was more of an evolved into liking as opposed to falling in love with Thor & Cap as protectors as far back as I can remember. Holland's Spidey captures the young Spidey. Maguire was the college Spidey. This is why I suspect we will get the teen X-Men which will allow for a longer shelf life. I seem to remember a Japanese Spiderman movie. (or it could've been like a few episodes combined together of a tv show marketed as a movie when I was a kid) with large robots that was atrocious. Back in the 80s the UK got three Spder-Man movies...the pilot for the US TV show, plus Spider-Man Strikes Back and Spider-Man: The Dragon's Challenge, basically each were two episode of the TV show stitched together and released theatrically
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 28, 2019 17:55:46 GMT
Not bad, Homecoming also has a 92%. And Homecoming was the worst Spider-Man movie ever. You would need to actually watch SMHC first before you can comment on how good or bad it actually is.
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Post by DSDSquared on Jun 28, 2019 18:24:35 GMT
You misspelled The Amazing Spider-Man 2. No, Homecoming was definitely worse than TASM2. I see that you haven't gotten any smarter in my absence.
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Post by DSDSquared on Jun 28, 2019 18:27:46 GMT
I thought Homecoming was excellent. At the time I considered it a top five MCU movie. I am not sure that I still do, but it is fantastic none-the-less. I am ecstatic that the new one is so well received.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 28, 2019 20:35:24 GMT
Captain Marvel currently has a 78%. Prior to that, the last MCU movie with a score in the 70% range was AoU. And even then neither of those two movies are bad. Both are awful.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 28, 2019 21:22:57 GMT
And even then neither of those two movies are bad. Both are awfully good. I agree, DC-Fan.
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Post by kleinreturns on Jun 28, 2019 22:37:43 GMT
And even then neither of those two movies are bad. Both are awful. The rubbish Snyderverse is awful.
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