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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jun 27, 2019 19:02:27 GMT
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Post by Dramatic Look Gopher on Jun 27, 2019 19:23:05 GMT
I've never seen it, but I would like to one day. If I do get a chance to see it, I'm sure I would split the viewing into two separate nights.
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Post by marshamae on Jun 27, 2019 19:47:40 GMT
Seen small cuts it looks spectacular.
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Post by kijii on Jun 27, 2019 19:50:28 GMT
Is it in English?
No way I want watch 7 hours of with subtitles..
I used to do well with foreign movies and subtitles but not so much now.
I like the large yellow subtitles.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jun 27, 2019 20:18:34 GMT
Is it in English? No way I want watch 7 hours of with subtitles.. I used to do well with foreign movies and subtitles but not so much now. I like the large yellow subtitles.
I am pretty sure it's only in the original Russian with English subtitles. Criterion doesn't normally release dubbed films.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jun 27, 2019 20:20:36 GMT
I've never seen it, but I would like to one day. If I do get a chance to see it, I'm sure I would split the viewing into two separate nights.
I can't imagine watching it in a single sitting either. Come to think of it, I would probably split it in three sessions.
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Post by amyghost on Jun 27, 2019 21:01:21 GMT
I'd be interested. The early Seventies BBC production with Anthony Hopkins as Pierre probably remains the definitive version of this in English, but obviously a good Russian production would bring its own perspective on the novel. I've heard of the Bondarchuk film down the years, but never had an opportunity to see it, so Criterion's release of this is a good thing. At any rate, it would have to be better than the bloated and badly miscast Hollywood take on it from the 1950's, with the ludicrous casting of Henry Fonda as Pierre, Mel Ferrer as Andrei, and Audrey Hepburn as Natasha.
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Post by vegalyra on Jun 27, 2019 21:04:07 GMT
I'm getting it. Barnes & Noble is having their Criterion sale starting tomorrow rumor has it. 50% off. Best time to buy it except perhaps during Criterion's flash sales.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 28, 2019 0:12:46 GMT
Holy cow. That's one and a half Michael Ciminos.
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Post by teleadm on Jun 28, 2019 16:33:17 GMT
Been meaning to see it for many years.
Wasn't there a three part version available once? Where each part ended at a natural place and not by "a commercial axe" like some movies I've seen.
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Post by marshamae on Jun 28, 2019 16:37:34 GMT
When it came out it was shown in two ( three ?) parts. You went on three successive nights like the Norman Chronicles. I think a planned viewing schedule with breaks makes sense. I would not want to zone on it.
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Post by Sulla on Jun 28, 2019 21:48:57 GMT
Hmm, only $20 for the dvd and $25 for Blu-Ray. Looks inviting. Thanks for the heads-up.
Since it's a Soviet film I'm curious to see how certain events, such as Ney's rearguard action, are depicted.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jun 28, 2019 22:01:54 GMT
Its a good mini series,
But one thing i really don`t like with it is Irina Skobsteva as Hélène Bezukhova i think she is completely wrong for that role. And she was frankly to old to play Helene, I also think that Sergei Bondarchuk was wrong for Pierre he looked the part but he was to old.
But it does have by far the best Natasha
Anyway i just pre-ordered it.
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Post by petrolino on Jun 29, 2019 0:44:51 GMT
Thanks for the news.
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Post by claudius on Jun 29, 2019 1:15:05 GMT
My first intro to W&P was the King Vidor-Audrey Hepburn version. Around the June 1994 weekend where I had my first full viewing of the film (the June weekend where I saw THE LION KING), The Learning Channel had a marathon of a docu series called BATTLE THAT CHANGED THE WORLD, and its episodes on Austerlitz and the Russian Campaign heavily used footage from the 1968 version. For three years that was my main source of the film, the Kultur 3-tape being $100 dollars, a high sum for my High School self. I finally came to a Kultur VHS that had the whole film in one tape- via EP, and rather cheap, so I got that. It was the American dub with narration by Norman Rose, suffering from bad cropping. In the scenes showing two-screens, only one screen got shown, and the finale of Part 2: Natasha Rostov, where '1812' crawls to the screen, I got '181'!?! Nevertheless, it was still a spectacle to behold- the depictions of Austerlitz, Borodino, the Moscow pillaging, and the St. Petersburg Ball were wonderful. I couldn't wait for the widescreen version, and when that came up in the Summer of 2003, I bought it.
So, I'm up in the air about getting the Criterion version. Maybe. Maybe not.
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Post by london777 on Jul 1, 2019 17:06:24 GMT
London777's comments on the Rusico release
I do not know if Criterion had access to some of the unused footage so that they can improve on the Rusico release in some of the areas I noted. I hope so. Despite this version's demerits I was compelled to watch all 7 hours plus in one sitting. (We really have some snowflakes among our membership).
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jul 1, 2019 18:16:08 GMT
London777's comments on the Rusico release
I do not know if Criterion had access to some of the unused footage so that they can improve on the Rusico release in some of the areas I noted. I hope so. Despite this version's demerits I was compelled to watch all 7 hours plus in one sitting. (We really have some snowflakes among our membership). Thanks for that, it was very interesting. Knowing Criterion, I can't imagine that these particular problems will be present in their version.
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