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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 2, 2019 17:34:01 GMT
I think this is possible since... JK Simmons has reprise his role as JJJ. Ryan Reynolds and Dafne Keen, please!
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 2, 2019 17:41:15 GMT
I think this is possible since... JK Simmons has reprise his role as JJJ. Ryan Reynolds and Dafne Keen, please! I think with the amount of money Dead Pool has made it's a given more Deadpool movies would be made (by Fox as a subsidiary.) I don't think he will ever cross over to the MCU. He will comment on why he's not or joke about it, but I don't forsee Deadpool Spidie road trip movie in the foreseeable future. X-23 might be a harder sell. Not impossible, but I don't think the MCU will bring in any of the X-men Universe characters into the fold. I could be wrong. I guess it would depend on how they bring X-men into the MCU. There is some leeway. I think there maybe some backlash with Marvel Studios messing with Logan in any way. I think other than Deadpool Marvel will make a hard break with Fox's X-men.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 2, 2019 17:50:41 GMT
I think this is possible since... JK Simmons has reprise his role as JJJ. Ryan Reynolds and Dafne Keen, please! I think with the amount of money Dead Pool has made it's a given more Deadpool movies would be made (by Fox as a subsidiary.) I don't think he will ever cross over to the MCU. He will comment on why he's not or joke about it, but I don't forsee Deadpool Spidie road trip movie in the foreseeable future. X-23 might be a harder sell. Not impossible, but I don't think the MCU will bring in any of the X-men Universe characters into the fold. I could be wrong. I guess it would depend on how they bring X-men into the MCU. There is some leeway. I think there maybe some backlash with Marvel Studios messing with Logan in any way. I think other than Deadpool Marvel will make a hard break with Fox's X-men. I don’t mean bringing the Fox versions over of the characters, just the actors playing MCU versions. Similar to Judi Dench reprising her role as M in the Bond reboot.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 2, 2019 17:52:01 GMT
I think with the amount of money Dead Pool has made it's a given more Deadpool movies would be made (by Fox as a subsidiary.) I don't think he will ever cross over to the MCU. He will comment on why he's not or joke about it, but I don't forsee Deadpool Spidie road trip movie in the foreseeable future. X-23 might be a harder sell. Not impossible, but I don't think the MCU will bring in any of the X-men Universe characters into the fold. I could be wrong. I guess it would depend on how they bring X-men into the MCU. There is some leeway. I think there maybe some backlash with Marvel Studios messing with Logan in any way. I think other than Deadpool Marvel will make a hard break with Fox's X-men. I don’t mean bringing the Fox versions over of the characters, just the actors playing MCU versions. Similar to Judi Dench reprising her role as M in the Bond reboot. That could be confusing for some. I know about JK, even that has confused some already.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 2, 2019 18:40:41 GMT
I don’t mean bringing the Fox versions over of the characters, just the actors playing MCU versions. Similar to Judi Dench reprising her role as M in the Bond reboot. That could be confusing for some. I know about JK, even that has confused some already. I remember when Chris Hemsworth and Sebastian Stan asked Hugh Jackman to come back as Wolverine.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 2, 2019 19:33:13 GMT
Reynolds is the only one I'm good with. The rest, recast them. To hell with multiverses.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 2, 2019 19:43:55 GMT
The only ones I really want to maintain are Ryan Reynolds and Olivia Munn. Reynolds because I don't think anyone can DP as well as he did, and Munn because I think she was seriously underutilized in her role and there's potential there.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 2, 2019 20:14:03 GMT
Reynolds is the only one I'm good with. The rest, recast them. To hell with multiverses. We are not talking about multiverse stuff.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 2, 2019 20:19:24 GMT
Reynolds is the only one I'm good with. The rest, recast them. To hell with multiverses. We are not talking about multiverse stuff. Oh well.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 3, 2019 15:13:29 GMT
Not going to happen - especially after DP failed as hard as it did. It would make better business sense for Disney to wipe the slate clean.
Simmons was coming out of a, more or less, successful franchise.
Reynolds is the only thing valuable in the XMU dumpster fire. Let the rest burn.
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Post by sostie on Jul 3, 2019 15:31:04 GMT
IF New Mutants turns out to be good and successful, and IF it makes no reference to the Fox X-verse, maybe they could integrate some of those characters, or even a sequel, into the MCU.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 3, 2019 16:37:10 GMT
Pretty much everyone from the Deadpool movies, and that is it.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 3, 2019 17:11:28 GMT
Not going to happen - especially after DP failed as hard as it did. It would make better business sense for Disney to wipe the slate clean. Simmons was coming out of a, more or less, successful franchise. Reynolds is the only thing valuable in the XMU dumpster fire. Let the rest burn. Logan was screenplay Oscar nominated movie and made money. So why isn’t Dafne Keen valuable? Aquaman made a billion dollars after Justice League flopped and that was a spin-off of that movie. So I don’t see how bringing in an actor to reprise alternate version of their character is going to hurt business wise.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 3, 2019 18:06:05 GMT
Not going to happen - especially after DP failed as hard as it did. It would make better business sense for Disney to wipe the slate clean. Simmons was coming out of a, more or less, successful franchise. Reynolds is the only thing valuable in the XMU dumpster fire. Let the rest burn. Logan was screenplay Oscar nominated movie and made money. So why isn’t Dafne Keen valuable? Aquaman made a billion dollars after Justice League flopped and that was a spin-off of that movie. So I don’t see how bringing in an actor to reprise alternate version of their character is going to hurt business wise. The problem you run into is confusing the Brand. Disney may have a shit ton of faults, but one of them isn't Branding and Brand Recognition. When they bring X-men/FF into the MCU they are gong to make sure it's their version and Brand. They are going to make a distinction between their X-men/FF than what's bee done before. I'm not saying there would be a complete lock on using actors from the XCU or FF inside the MCU. Obviously, Captain America was Johnny, and yes they have reused JK for JJJ , but I'd be extremely surprised if they reused anybody from the XCU as carry overs. If they reuse actors I doubt that it will be in not just their previous roles but roles that are similar in any way to what they've played before. (Excluding Deadpool, I believe Marvel will allow him to be the 4th Wall Breaking Exception because I doubt DP will be brought into the MCU universe. They will treat DP movies as either One Shots, What ifs, Alternate Universe Movies). Edit: With Deadpool complaining about it the whole time
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 3, 2019 18:31:43 GMT
Not going to happen - especially after DP failed as hard as it did. It would make better business sense for Disney to wipe the slate clean. Simmons was coming out of a, more or less, successful franchise. Reynolds is the only thing valuable in the XMU dumpster fire. Let the rest burn. Logan was screenplay Oscar nominated movie and made money. So why isn’t Dafne Keen valuable? Aquaman made a billion dollars after Justice League flopped and that was a spin-off of that movie. So I don’t see how bringing in an actor to reprise alternate version of their character is going to hurt business wise. Well, first off, it creates confusion. Secondly, it devalues the brand. Sorry but, the truth is that the XMU is now perceived as a poorly executed franchise (thanks in part to DP). Everyone is waiting for the MCU RE-up. Giving the older actors from the previous franchise a shot at reprising their former roles doesn't amount to more than a pity fuck. The actor and the studio would just look desperate. IIRC, Logan dies in Logan. Do you mean to tell me that no one will be even somewhat confused if an older Hugh Jackman somehow managed to work his way into the MCU? Keen was great in Logan but, the clock is ticking. It wouldn't even make sense for her character to even be in the MCU for another five to seven years down the line. Do you think she's going to age into X-23 well enough?
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 3, 2019 18:58:15 GMT
Logan was screenplay Oscar nominated movie and made money. So why isn’t Dafne Keen valuable? Aquaman made a billion dollars after Justice League flopped and that was a spin-off of that movie. So I don’t see how bringing in an actor to reprise alternate version of their character is going to hurt business wise.Well, first off, it creates confusion. Secondly, it devalues the brand. Sorry but, the truth is that the XMU is now perceived as a poorly executed franchise (thanks in part to DP). Everyone is waiting for the MCU RE-up. Giving the older actors from the previous franchise a shot at reprising their former roles doesn't amount to more than a pity fuck. The actor and the studio would just look desperate. IIRC, Logan dies in Logan. Do you mean to tell me that no one will be even somewhat confused if an older Hugh Jackman somehow managed to work his way into the MCU? Keen was great in Logan but, the clock is ticking. It wouldn't even make sense for her character to even be in the MCU for another five to seven years down the line. Do you think she's going to age into X-23 well enough? The DCEU was perceived as poorly executed franchise as well and I’m not saying they should bring in all or even most of the cast. Keen is 14 and the character in the comics is 21.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 3, 2019 19:05:35 GMT
Well, first off, it creates confusion. Secondly, it devalues the brand. Sorry but, the truth is that the XMU is now perceived as a poorly executed franchise (thanks in part to DP). Everyone is waiting for the MCU RE-up. Giving the older actors from the previous franchise a shot at reprising their former roles doesn't amount to more than a pity fuck. The actor and the studio would just look desperate. IIRC, Logan dies in Logan. Do you mean to tell me that no one will be even somewhat confused if an older Hugh Jackman somehow managed to work his way into the MCU? Keen was great in Logan but, the clock is ticking. It wouldn't even make sense for her character to even be in the MCU for another five to seven years down the line. Do you think she's going to age into X-23 well enough? The DCEU was perceived as poorly executed franchise as well and I’m not saying they should bring in all or even most of the cast. Keen is 14 and the character in the comics is 21. Almost anything can happen between 14 and 21 (or near it). Who knows? Keen might work. All I'm saying is, we can take Laurence, McAvoy, Fassbender, Stewart, et al. off of speed dial.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Jul 3, 2019 19:17:25 GMT
Ryan Reynolds is really the only one we need. Everyone else has either given their iconic performance that will be remembered forever or they were so unremarkable that we're all ready to forget they ever played the part.
Plus Wade Wilson's comments on being in a new cinematic universe is a plethora of comedic gold that would be an incredible shame to waste.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 3, 2019 20:46:38 GMT
Logan was screenplay Oscar nominated movie and made money. So why isn’t Dafne Keen valuable? Aquaman made a billion dollars after Justice League flopped and that was a spin-off of that movie. So I don’t see how bringing in an actor to reprise alternate version of their character is going to hurt business wise. The problem you run into is confusing the Brand. Disney may have a shit ton of faults, but one of them isn't Branding and Brand Recognition. When they bring X-men/FF into the MCU they are gong to make sure it's their version and Brand. They are going to make a distinction between their X-men/FF than what's bee done before. I'm not saying there would be a complete lock on using actors from the XCU or FF inside the MCU. Obviously, Captain America was Johnny, and yes they have reused JK for JJJ , but I'd be extremely surprised if they reused anybody from the XCU as carry overs. If they reuse actors I doubt that it will be in not just their previous roles but roles that are similar in any way to what they've played before. (Excluding Deadpool, I believe Marvel will allow him to be the 4th Wall Breaking Exception because I doubt DP will be brought into the MCU universe. They will treat DP movies as either One Shots, What ifs, Alternate Universe Movies). Edit: With Deadpool complaining about it the whole time Not the same character but I would love to see Sophie Turner as Rachel Summers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 21:21:22 GMT
I'm good with none of them.
If Ryan Reynolds is in control of Deadpool, then I could tolerate another Deadpool movie.
The good actors in the X-Men have done their time and bowed out. The bad ones...there's not really many that are bad, but their time is just as up. There's some that were underutilized, but their ship has sailed.
I could also use a break from the X-Men. If they get right into, it'll be Batman vs Superman too soon after The Dark Knight trilogy all over again. Even if I liked Batman vs Superman, it would still have been too soon.
The TV series Gotham came along not long after The Dark Knight trilogy, and I couldn't be bothered because it was too much Batman in too little time. They tried forcing it with Ben Affleck, but I could easily go another decade without a new live action Batman.
The dust is barely settling on The Dark Phoenix movie; it's not even on video yet. James Marsden could have done more as Cyclops, Olivia Munn maybe too. I feel for them as much as anybody that their talents were underutilized but as far as I'm concerned, they're all done.
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