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Post by klawrencio79 on Jul 10, 2019 18:21:37 GMT
Haute Tension (and no - none of you saw the ending coming ) Fun movie, but the ending is ridiculous. Sidenote, remember that movie Perfect Getaway with Steve Zahn, Milla Jovovich and Timothy Olyphant? Well, the marketing strategy for the movie involved telling everyone that there was a twist you'd never see coming. The movie unfolds as a murder mystery with two couples hiking together in Hawaii, with a string of serial-killer style murders happening as the backdrop committed by a couple, and the movie just wants you to believe that either Timothy Olyphant and his girlfriend are the killers or Chris Hemsworth and Marley Shelton are the killers following them, while Steven Zahn and Milla Jovovich are the innocent would-be victims, and then boom, turns out they're the killers who are pretending to be impish tourists! It's so hackneyed and cliched, a stupid twist in search of a story around it. Twists are great if they're organic to the story and done right, just like anything else. If they are the springboard for the entire movie, then it doesn't work. Haute Tension is fun and while the ending is asinine, it works within the context of the movie as best it can and the movie is stylized enough that it's entertaining. But Perfect Getaway is so stupid that it's actually insulting and given that the entire marketing strategy kept mentioning a twist you never saw coming is amateur hour - yeah, nobody would see it because it was so stupid, but then you told us about it. The movie spends endless energy telling you one thing and then just pulls a 180 that no moviegoer with an ounce of integrity would respect what they did.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 10, 2019 18:31:42 GMT
Haute Tension (and no - none of you saw the ending coming ) Fun movie, but the ending is ridiculous. Sidenote, remember that movie Perfect Getaway with Steve Zahn, Milla Jovovich and Timothy Olyphant? Well, the marketing strategy for the movie involved telling everyone that there was a twist you'd never see coming. The movie unfolds as a murder mystery with two couples hiking together in Hawaii, with a string of serial-killer style murders happening as the backdrop committed by a couple, and the movie just wants you to believe that either Timothy Olyphant and his girlfriend are the killers or Chris Hemsworth and Marley Shelton are the killers following them, while Steven Zahn and Milla Jovovich are the innocent would-be victims, and then boom, turns out they're the killers who are pretending to be impish tourists! It's so hackneyed and cliched, a stupid twist in search of a story around it. Twists are great if they're organic to the story and done right, just like anything else. If they are the springboard for the entire movie, then it doesn't work. Haute Tension is fun and while the ending is asinine, it works within the context of the movie as best it can and the movie is stylized enough that it's entertaining. But Perfect Getaway is so stupid that it's actually insulting and given that the entire marketing strategy kept mentioning a twist you never saw coming is amateur hour - yeah, nobody would see it because it was so stupid, but then you told us about it. The movie spends endless energy telling you one thing and then just pulls a 180 that no moviegoer with an ounce of integrity would respect what they did. Haven't heard of - but I'll have to check it out. Have you (or anybody here) seen Midsommar yet? Reading the description it sounds exactly like 'The Wicker Man' (which deeply disturbed me) - not the Nicholas Cage one
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jul 10, 2019 18:33:35 GMT
Fun movie, but the ending is ridiculous. Sidenote, remember that movie Perfect Getaway with Steve Zahn, Milla Jovovich and Timothy Olyphant? Well, the marketing strategy for the movie involved telling everyone that there was a twist you'd never see coming. The movie unfolds as a murder mystery with two couples hiking together in Hawaii, with a string of serial-killer style murders happening as the backdrop committed by a couple, and the movie just wants you to believe that either Timothy Olyphant and his girlfriend are the killers or Chris Hemsworth and Marley Shelton are the killers following them, while Steven Zahn and Milla Jovovich are the innocent would-be victims, and then boom, turns out they're the killers who are pretending to be impish tourists! It's so hackneyed and cliched, a stupid twist in search of a story around it. Twists are great if they're organic to the story and done right, just like anything else. If they are the springboard for the entire movie, then it doesn't work. Haute Tension is fun and while the ending is asinine, it works within the context of the movie as best it can and the movie is stylized enough that it's entertaining. But Perfect Getaway is so stupid that it's actually insulting and given that the entire marketing strategy kept mentioning a twist you never saw coming is amateur hour - yeah, nobody would see it because it was so stupid, but then you told us about it. The movie spends endless energy telling you one thing and then just pulls a 180 that no moviegoer with an ounce of integrity would respect what they did. Haven't heard of - but I'll have to check it out. Have you (or anybody here) seen Midsommar yet? Reading the description it sounds exactly like 'The Wicker Man' (which deeply disturbed me) - not the Nicholas Cage one Haven't seen it yet, but I loved Hereditary (Ari Aster's prior directorial effort) so I'm hoping to catch Midsommar while it's still in theaters.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 10, 2019 18:35:37 GMT
Haute Tension (and no - none of you saw the ending coming ) Fun movie, but the ending is ridiculous. Sidenote, remember that movie Perfect Getaway with Steve Zahn, Milla Jovovich and Timothy Olyphant? Well, the marketing strategy for the movie involved telling everyone that there was a twist you'd never see coming. The movie unfolds as a murder mystery with two couples hiking together in Hawaii, with a string of serial-killer style murders happening as the backdrop committed by a couple, and the movie just wants you to believe that either Timothy Olyphant and his girlfriend are the killers or Chris Hemsworth and Marley Shelton are the killers following them, while Steven Zahn and Milla Jovovich are the innocent would-be victims, and then boom, turns out they're the killers who are pretending to be impish tourists! It's so hackneyed and cliched, a stupid twist in search of a story around it. Twists are great if they're organic to the story and done right, just like anything else. If they are the springboard for the entire movie, then it doesn't work. Haute Tension is fun and while the ending is asinine, it works within the context of the movie as best it can and the movie is stylized enough that it's entertaining. But Perfect Getaway is so stupid that it's actually insulting and given that the entire marketing strategy kept mentioning a twist you never saw coming is amateur hour - yeah, nobody would see it because it was so stupid, but then you told us about it. The movie spends endless energy telling you one thing and then just pulls a 180 that no moviegoer with an ounce of integrity would respect what they did. Back to THHE remake ending. Remember the very ending when Doug and the two kids are walking away with the dog and baby thinking they're safe and we get a shot of binoculars watching them as the credits roll. You might already know this - but I found it interesting. Did you hear that there was a book with a very morbid ending for all of them? i.e. they don't make it out alive. I always thought the girl tied up in the beginning of THHEII was the girl from #1. But I've been told I'm wrong
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 10, 2019 19:33:41 GMT
Haute Tension (and no - none of you saw the ending coming ) Fun movie, but the ending is ridiculous. Sidenote, remember that movie Perfect Getaway with Steve Zahn, Milla Jovovich and Timothy Olyphant? Well, the marketing strategy for the movie involved telling everyone that there was a twist you'd never see coming. The movie unfolds as a murder mystery with two couples hiking together in Hawaii, with a string of serial-killer style murders happening as the backdrop committed by a couple, and the movie just wants you to believe that either Timothy Olyphant and his girlfriend are the killers or Chris Hemsworth and Marley Shelton are the killers following them, while Steven Zahn and Milla Jovovich are the innocent would-be victims, and then boom, turns out they're the killers who are pretending to be impish tourists! It's so hackneyed and cliched, a stupid twist in search of a story around it. Twists are great if they're organic to the story and done right, just like anything else. If they are the springboard for the entire movie, then it doesn't work. Haute Tension is fun and while the ending is asinine, it works within the context of the movie as best it can and the movie is stylized enough that it's entertaining. But Perfect Getaway is so stupid that it's actually insulting and given that the entire marketing strategy kept mentioning a twist you never saw coming is amateur hour - yeah, nobody would see it because it was so stupid, but then you told us about it. The movie spends endless energy telling you one thing and then just pulls a 180 that no moviegoer with an ounce of integrity would respect what they did. Ah! My mistake - apologies - you were talking about the Haute Tension ending. Yes - it was a tad over the top; however a fun little ride
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jul 10, 2019 20:30:52 GMT
Fun movie, but the ending is ridiculous. Sidenote, remember that movie Perfect Getaway with Steve Zahn, Milla Jovovich and Timothy Olyphant? Well, the marketing strategy for the movie involved telling everyone that there was a twist you'd never see coming. The movie unfolds as a murder mystery with two couples hiking together in Hawaii, with a string of serial-killer style murders happening as the backdrop committed by a couple, and the movie just wants you to believe that either Timothy Olyphant and his girlfriend are the killers or Chris Hemsworth and Marley Shelton are the killers following them, while Steven Zahn and Milla Jovovich are the innocent would-be victims, and then boom, turns out they're the killers who are pretending to be impish tourists! It's so hackneyed and cliched, a stupid twist in search of a story around it. Twists are great if they're organic to the story and done right, just like anything else. If they are the springboard for the entire movie, then it doesn't work. Haute Tension is fun and while the ending is asinine, it works within the context of the movie as best it can and the movie is stylized enough that it's entertaining. But Perfect Getaway is so stupid that it's actually insulting and given that the entire marketing strategy kept mentioning a twist you never saw coming is amateur hour - yeah, nobody would see it because it was so stupid, but then you told us about it. The movie spends endless energy telling you one thing and then just pulls a 180 that no moviegoer with an ounce of integrity would respect what they did. Back to THHE remake ending. Remember the very ending when Doug and the two kids are walking away with the dog and baby thinking they're safe and we get a shot of binoculars watching them as the credits roll. You might already know this - but I found it interesting. Did you hear that there was a book with a very morbid ending for all of them? i.e. they don't make it out alive. I always thought the girl tied up in the beginning of THHEII was the girl from #1. But I've been told I'm wrong Totally different girl, that last shot is nothing more than an indication that a sequel was in the works. I enjoyed the remake, it was definitely a cut above when it comes to remakes/reboots, but the sequel was atrocious.
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Post by Marv on Jul 10, 2019 21:31:42 GMT
Haute Tension (and no - none of you saw the ending coming. Woulda been a much better movie without the twist, imo. As a straight up slasher it was working...but the twist was illogical and seemed very flawed. I haven't seen the film in a while tho but part of the reason was because of how much i disliked that twist.
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Post by cts1 on Jul 10, 2019 22:19:27 GMT
If you want truly existential horror, might I recommend Garfield: The Movie?
While some people dismiss it as a failed kid's film, staring at it for a long time gives you a window into the darkness at the center of the human soul, and questions come up. Questions like: "does someone have photos of Bill Murray with a sheep?" "What kind of sick prankster put Jennifer Love Hewitt in glasses and wanted us to believe she had a brain?" and, of course, "would a just God allow this to happen?"
Failing that, Triumph of the Will. Creepier than any zombie film, because those people went out and did really horrible things with those same smiles on their faces.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jul 10, 2019 22:32:17 GMT
If you want truly existential horror, might I recommend Garfield: The Movie?While some people dismiss it as a failed kid's film, staring at it for a long time gives you a window into the darkness at the center of the human soul, and questions come up. Questions like: "does someone have photos of Bill Murray with a sheep?" "What kind of sick prankster put Jennifer Love Hewitt in glasses and wanted us to believe she had a brain?" and, of course, "would a just God allow this to happen?" Failing that, Triumph of the Will. Creepier than any zombie film, because those people went out and did really horrible things with those same smiles on their faces. You, good sir, are a mad genius. Please post on this board regularly!
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 11, 2019 0:25:38 GMT
Haute Tension (and no - none of you saw the ending coming. Woulda been a much better movie without the twist, imo. As a straight up slasher it was working...but the twist was illogical and seemed very flawed. I haven't seen the film in a while tho but part of the reason was because of how much i disliked that twist. Even the director had said he sort of regrets that ending. It is well made but that twist is an annoying half assed cliche. His next movie, Crawl, looks like it might actually be a surprise hit.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 11, 2019 10:54:32 GMT
If you want truly existential horror, might I recommend Garfield: The Movie?While some people dismiss it as a failed kid's film, staring at it for a long time gives you a window into the darkness at the center of the human soul, and questions come up. Questions like: "does someone have photos of Bill Murray with a sheep?" "What kind of sick prankster put Jennifer Love Hewitt in glasses and wanted us to believe she had a brain?" and, of course, "would a just God allow this to happen?" Failing that, Triumph of the Will. Creepier than any zombie film, because those people went out and did really horrible things with those same smiles on their faces. The story goes that Bill Murray was recording his dialogue in the sound booth and was really perplexed by how bad the script was. He started asking about who had written his lines when he discovered that Joel Coen of the Coen brothers had not written the script for Garfield. But that Joel Cohen was, in fact, a different person altogether. A subtle but crucial difference.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 11, 2019 12:52:27 GMT
This masterpiece.
The 1st time we see Leatherface with the haunting eerie score in the background as he proceeds to slam the door shut still gives me chills.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 11, 2019 13:11:40 GMT
This masterpiece. The 1st time we see Leatherface with the haunting eerie score in the background as he proceeds to slam the door shut still gives me chills. I'm with you, but I'd have pegged you more as a Michael Bay Texas Chainsaw remake kinda guy. Cheers for choosing the real one.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 11, 2019 13:21:25 GMT
This masterpiece. The 1st time we see Leatherface with the haunting eerie score in the background as he proceeds to slam the door shut still gives me chills. I'm with you, but I'd have pegged you more as a Michael Bay Texas Chainsaw remake kinda guy. Cheers for choosing the real one. I love the Jessica Biel remake - but nothing holds a candle to the original. Franklin is one of my favorite horror movies characters of All-Time along with Shelly from F13th III and Joey from F13th V.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 11, 2019 13:38:40 GMT
Franklin is one of my favorite horror movies characters of All-Time along with Shelly from F13th III and Joey from F13th V. Well... You have a type.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 11, 2019 13:55:21 GMT
Franklin is one of my favorite horror movies characters of All-Time along with Shelly from F13th III and Joey from F13th V. Well... You have a type. It's rather unfortunate we didn't get enough 'Joey'.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 11, 2019 13:58:00 GMT
It's rather unfortunate we didn't get enough 'Joey'. I was fine being rid of him. It's just a shame it was the son of stupid fake Jason instead of the man in the mask himself.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 11, 2019 14:03:11 GMT
It's rather unfortunate we didn't get enough 'Joey'. I was fine being rid of him. It's just a shame it was the son of stupid fake Jason instead of the man in the mask himself. I actually love Part V - but that was the downer for me - it wasn't actually Jason.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 11, 2019 14:13:44 GMT
I actually love Part V - but that was the downer for me - it wasn't actually Jason. It's got its moments. The shame is that some of the good Jason moments don't belong to him, and the idea that it's just some fucking guy is pretty stupid. And that early scene with your boy there is super annoying. I guess it makes it plausible that that dude would snap at the most annoying person in the world, but why would a guy like that be given an axe in the first place? And there's some pretty dumb shit as it goes on, like a guy sweetly singing to his girlfriend mid-diarrhea... why the fuck was that in there? But it has all of the nudity and kills you'd expect from a Friday the 13th sequel... It's just weaker than others for a lot of those reasons, even if it is in the same style of dumb fun.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 2:08:15 GMT
Watched this movie last night. I had never heard of it before. It was a good watch. Thank you for the suggestion.
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