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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 10, 2020 18:22:22 GMT
Well here's my review folks. It's not for everybody. Like the original Wicker Man, Lords of Salem, The Witch - I will not watch this again. I think a horror film succeeds if it makes you uneasy - which this did - too eerie for me - I don't like movies about Cults (but for some reason I go into them knowing full well what they're all about). This isn't your 'fun' horror movie - it makes you uneasy - Bravo - now I'm going to be creeped out for the rest of the day. I need to watch an Adam Sandler flick now to get this out of my head. I'll say again that I think this is a great film, but I can't argue with any of this at all. It's not fun, and it left me in a bad mood for about a week. I will add, though, that it's actually pretty funny in spots. Shockingly so, at times. But you're right, not fun. A dumb comedy might be a good palette cleanser.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 10, 2020 18:35:08 GMT
Well here's my review folks. It's not for everybody. Like the original Wicker Man, Lords of Salem, The Witch - I will not watch this again. I think a horror film succeeds if it makes you uneasy - which this did - too eerie for me - I don't like movies about Cults (but for some reason I go into them knowing full well what they're all about). This isn't your 'fun' horror movie - it makes you uneasy - Bravo - now I'm going to be creeped out for the rest of the day. I need to watch an Adam Sandler flick now to get this out of my head. I'll say again that I think this is a great film, but I can't argue with any of this at all. It's not fun, and it left me in a bad mood for about a week. I will add, though, that it's actually pretty funny in spots. Shockingly so, at times. But you're right, not fun. A dumb comedy might be a good palette cleanser. After you witnessed the cliff jumping - wouldn't you as a group (the Americans and the other couple) pack your bags immediately and get the hell out of Dodge? In all likelihood they'd just kill you on the spot for attempting to leave - but yeah - 'angry' is a good way to describe the way I feel after watching this. I mean - it's a movie - and I'm still feeling emotions from it - so it's going to leave an impression for awhile - need to get it out of my head. It leaves you wondering what becomes of The Queen - I guess she's happy and just becomes a member of the society. Angry in a sense to of the 'friend' that duped them to go over there. Christ it's a movie and I'm talking about it like it's real life. Yeah - I'm angry and creeped out.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 10, 2020 19:27:29 GMT
I'll say again that I think this is a great film, but I can't argue with any of this at all. It's not fun, and it left me in a bad mood for about a week. I will add, though, that it's actually pretty funny in spots. Shockingly so, at times. But you're right, not fun. A dumb comedy might be a good palette cleanser. After you witnessed the cliff jumping - wouldn't you as a group (the Americans and the other couple) pack your bags immediately and get the hell out of Dodge? In all likelihood they'd just kill you on the spot for attempting to leave - but yeah - 'angry' is a good way to describe the way I feel after watching this. I mean - it's a movie - and I'm still feeling emotions from it - so it's going to leave an impression for awhile - need to get it out of my head. It leaves you wondering what becomes of The Queen - I guess she's happy and just becomes a member of the society. Angry in a sense to of the 'friend' that duped them to go over there. Christ it's a movie and I'm talking about it like it's real life. Yeah - I'm angry and creeped out. Yes on all of that. I think the thing that fucked with me the most is seeing these bad and mind boggling decisions occur and not being able to process how someone else could act that way. When Florence Pugh witnesses that moment and comes to her boyfriend to sort of be assured that she's just witnessed the most insane thing any of them have ever seen and she needs to get the fuck out of there and then he just shrugs her off like 'yeah, crazy right? Anyway...', that moment encapsulates the madness of watching that movie. It's like an actual nightmare to me where watching insanity occur is just accepted by everybody else and nobody empathizes with your point of view. That's the main theme of the movie to me, and that's what their fucked up relationship was all about. That's the crux of the break up storyline at the core of the story. And she gets that across simply on her face. It's a fucking masterful performance. Florence Pugh, for my money, gives the best performance of the year. She's fucking incredible. It's also kind of incredible that every step of the movie is telegraphed ahead of time and it's still as impactful. You're witnessing the inevitable rather than being shocked by surprises out of nowhere. It's steeped in that cult and mythical imagery, but it's all about the extreme version of that inescapable bad ending to a bad relationship where the people stay together even though everyone knows they really shouldn't.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jan 10, 2020 19:56:54 GMT
After you witnessed the cliff jumping - wouldn't you as a group (the Americans and the other couple) pack your bags immediately and get the hell out of Dodge? In all likelihood they'd just kill you on the spot for attempting to leave - but yeah - 'angry' is a good way to describe the way I feel after watching this. I mean - it's a movie - and I'm still feeling emotions from it - so it's going to leave an impression for awhile - need to get it out of my head. It leaves you wondering what becomes of The Queen - I guess she's happy and just becomes a member of the society. Angry in a sense to of the 'friend' that duped them to go over there. Christ it's a movie and I'm talking about it like it's real life. Yeah - I'm angry and creeped out. Yes on all of that. I think the thing that fucked with me the most is seeing these bad and mind boggling decisions occur and not being able to process how someone else could act that way. When Florence Pugh witnesses that moment and comes to her boyfriend to sort of be assured that she's just witnessed the most insane thing any of them have ever seen and she needs to get the fuck out of there and then he just shrugs her off like 'yeah, crazy right? Anyway...', that moment encapsulates the madness of watching that movie. It's like an actual nightmare to me where watching insanity occur is just accepted by everybody else and nobody empathizes with your point of view. That's the main theme of the movie to me, and that's what their fucked up relationship was all about. That's the crux of the break up storyline at the core of the story. And she gets that across simply on her face. It's a fucking masterful performance. Florence Pugh, for my money, gives the best performance of the year. She's fucking incredible. It's also kind of incredible that every step of the movie is telegraphed ahead of time and it's still as impactful. You're witnessing the inevitable rather than being shocked by surprises out of nowhere. It's steeped in that cult and mythical imagery, but it's all about the extreme version of that inescapable bad ending to a bad relationship where the people stay together even though everyone knows they really shouldn't. Absolutely right on Pugh, man was she powerful. I don't disagree with you or frogs at all, this isn't a "fun" movie by any stretch and as noted above, this had me brooding around for the better part of a week afterwards. The prologue featuring the murder/suicide, that's what really got to me. I had eaten an edible about an hour before the movie, and suicide is something that hits super close to home for me as one of my closest friends went that route several years ago. I never really got over that, and sure it pops up in movies and I just take it for what it is, but the opening of this movie REALLY did a number on me. I couldn't stop thinking about it throughout the movie, and then basically for the rest of the week, I'm seeing fucking hoses going from my downstairs up the stairs out of the corner of my eye. Rough. But to me, the idea that a film can move me in such a way is what makes it so great. Hell, Requiem for a Dream is great, I'll never watch it again. Schindler's List? Never again. Midsommar, I actually think I would because I'd like to pay more attention to those drawings and even some of the imagery shown in the apartments early on. As far as the stupid decisions in terms of not leaving, yeah I agree to an extent, but I took it as part of the effects of the drugs they were constantly ingesting throughout the film, literally from the moment they arrive at the village they're taking them. The one guy Simon, he immediately wants out of there and he gets the worst of possible treatments. The movie does paint a pretty great picture of what it's like taking mushrooms, from the hazy surreal sheen that seems to cover everything, to the mild visuals of the flowers morphing around, to the general haze and inability to properly process what you're seeing and doing.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 10, 2020 20:29:05 GMT
Yes on all of that. I think the thing that fucked with me the most is seeing these bad and mind boggling decisions occur and not being able to process how someone else could act that way. When Florence Pugh witnesses that moment and comes to her boyfriend to sort of be assured that she's just witnessed the most insane thing any of them have ever seen and she needs to get the fuck out of there and then he just shrugs her off like 'yeah, crazy right? Anyway...', that moment encapsulates the madness of watching that movie. It's like an actual nightmare to me where watching insanity occur is just accepted by everybody else and nobody empathizes with your point of view. That's the main theme of the movie to me, and that's what their fucked up relationship was all about. That's the crux of the break up storyline at the core of the story. And she gets that across simply on her face. It's a fucking masterful performance. Florence Pugh, for my money, gives the best performance of the year. She's fucking incredible. It's also kind of incredible that every step of the movie is telegraphed ahead of time and it's still as impactful. You're witnessing the inevitable rather than being shocked by surprises out of nowhere. It's steeped in that cult and mythical imagery, but it's all about the extreme version of that inescapable bad ending to a bad relationship where the people stay together even though everyone knows they really shouldn't. Absolutely right on Pugh, man was she powerful. I don't disagree with you or frogs at all, this isn't a "fun" movie by any stretch and as noted above, this had my brooding around for the better part of a week afterwards. The prologue featuring the murder/suicide, that's what really got to me. I had eaten an edible about an hour before the movie, and suicide is something that hits super close to home for me as one of my closest friends went that route several years ago. I never really got over that, and sure it pops up in movies and I just take it for what it is, but the opening of this movie REALLY did a number on me. I couldn't stop thinking about it throughout the movie, and then basically for the rest of the week, I'm seeing fucking hoses going from my downstairs up the stairs out of the corner of my eye. Rough. But to me, the idea that a film can move me in such a way is what makes it so great. Hell, Requiem for a Dream is great, I'll never watch it again. Schindler's List? Never again. Midsommar, I actually think I would because I'd like to pay more attention to those drawings and even some of the imagery shown in the apartments early on. As far as the stupid decisions in terms of not leaving, yeah I agree to an extent, but I took it as part of the effects of the drugs they were constantly ingesting throughout the film, literally from the moment they arrive at the village they're taking them. The one guy Simon, he immediately wants out of there and he gets the worst of possible treatments. The movie does paint a pretty great picture of what it's like taking mushrooms, from the hazy surreal sheen that seems to cover everything, to the mild visuals of the flowers morphing around, to the general haze and inability to properly process what you're seeing and doing. I hadn't seen Hereditary yet so the night before I went to the theater to see this I watched Hereditary at home. That movie disappointed in the second half a bit, but the brutally dramatic family trauma that occurs in that film was really tough, and then watching this the following night compounded that incredibly depressing feeling. The opening scenes of this movie are absolutely devastating. I don't have exactly the directly personal connection that you describe, but there is mental health and therefore erratic behavior among people I know closely. Florence Pugh getting that cryptic email and being paranoid about it and thinking the worst and being told it's probably fine and thinking it's probably fine and being told she worries too much and thinking herself that she's worrying too much and obsessing over the wording of it and calling her sister and calling her boyfriend and not knowing what to do... All of those feelings are very familiar to me and I don't know that I realized it before I saw the movie, but everything that happened there is my absolute greatest fear. I think it's masterfully depicted but I'm sure that I know people who would have to turn it off after that. It's just too emotionally devastating and it would really hit too close to home for them. I imagine I'll watch it again, for some of the same reasons you laid out. I think there's some brilliant foreshadowing and great filmmaking that I could really appreciate, but I might have a hard time watching that opening sequence again. The stupid decisions of some of the characters are really the key to the whole film, to me. I think that's madness inducing spell the movie casts. Again, the whole thing is a breakup story, and she's being sort of emotionally and psychologically manipulated by her boyfriend from the beginning. So she's in the mode of trying to not be the crazy nay-saying girlfriend and going along with things she doesn't want to do for fear of being annoying. Everything that happens with her as it goes on is an extreme extension of that same feeling. To me that's the whole point. It starts with her agreeing to take mushrooms when she knows it's a bad idea, and yes, the drug sequences are totally part of that, yes brilliantly depicted. Her drug induced anxiety there is really well depicted, as is the lack of a reasonable logic while tripping, and the subtly psychedelic imagery. Anyway, I might have a tough time watching it again, but I think it's great on pretty much every level. It deserves more mainstream respect that it won't get, which is fine, but I thought Florence Pugh might have had a chance to get some awards attention. Instead she's gotten some attention for Little Women. I haven't seen that yet, I'm sure it's fine and she should be recognized in general because she's good in everything, but this is, I think, a uniquely impressive performance. But there's a distinct genre bias.
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Post by Aj_June on Jan 10, 2020 20:31:00 GMT
Currently watching Gargoyles (1972) on youtube.
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Jan 13, 2020 7:33:15 GMT
I'll say again that I think this is a great film, but I can't argue with any of this at all. It's not fun, and it left me in a bad mood for about a week. I will add, though, that it's actually pretty funny in spots. Shockingly so, at times. But you're right, not fun. A dumb comedy might be a good palette cleanser. After you witnessed the cliff jumping - wouldn't you as a group (the Americans and the other couple) pack your bags immediately and get the hell out of Dodge? In all likelihood they'd just kill you on the spot for attempting to leave - but yeah - 'angry' is a good way to describe the way I feel after watching this. I mean - it's a movie - and I'm still feeling emotions from it - so it's going to leave an impression for awhile - need to get it out of my head. It leaves you wondering what becomes of The Queen - I guess she's happy and just becomes a member of the society.Angry in a sense to of the 'friend' that duped them to go over there. Christ it's a movie and I'm talking about it like it's real life. Yeah - I'm angry and creeped out. That's exactly what happens, and what the movie's building up to since the opening sequence. Her family? Gone. In pretty much the most horrid way imaginable. Her "friends"? Don't really seem to give a shit. Her boyfriend? Wanted to break up with her, and just brushes it off when she tells him that guy left his girlfriend there alone. And granted, she doesn't know he's been drugged, but when she witnesses him cheating, that's the last straw and what triggers her panic attack. And as far as the cult goes, there's a sense of unity. That's why they all scream with the old dude when doesn't die after he jumps off the cliff, why those ladies moan when Christian and Maja have sex, why everyone screams at the end as the guys are burned. That smile on her face - as much as we don't want to see it, or believe it's happening - shows that she's found her new home and new family. Goddamn, I gotta watch this movie again.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 13, 2020 8:53:45 GMT
That's exactly what happens, and what the movie's building up to since the opening sequence. Her family? Gone. In pretty much the most horrid way imaginable. Her "friends"? Don't really seem to give a shit. Her boyfriend? Wanted to break up with her, and just brushes it off when she tells him that guy left his girlfriend there alone. And granted, she doesn't know he's been drugged, but when she witnesses him cheating, that's the last straw and what triggers her panic attack. And as far as the cult goes, there's a sense of unity. That's why they all scream with the old dude when doesn't die after he jumps off the cliff, why those ladies moan when Christian and Maja have sex, why everyone screams at the end as the guys are burned. That smile on her face - as much as we don't want to see it, or believe it's happening - shows that she's found her new home and new family. Goddamn, I gotta watch this movie again. You pretty much nailed how I viewed the end - she found her new family.
Which was kind of heart breaking in a sense all that she'd been through and she now had a found a 'safe place' in a cult who just offed her friends/boyfriend (well she was responsible for that).
The movie has a sense of impending doom to it (although the movie gets bashed - it was like watching Lords of Salem for me but this was a bit creepier - I actually think this was a bit creepier than the original Wicker Man - except for the ending of WM which scarred me).
You pretty much know full well what's going to happen - but want to shake these characters as they're sitting down eating meals with the cult and scream, 'Get the hell out of there!'.
There's a lot of talk on these threads about 'The Queen'. I think one of the more interesting characters is the roommate/friend who got them to visit the cult in the first place. He was obviously getting them over there for a reason - but the creepy thing to me was he obviously had feelings for 'The Queen' when he knew full well it was his friends/roommates girlfriend. The pictures he'd draw, telling her it's just between them, the way he kissed her after she won the dance off - I literally wanted to jump through the TV and knock him out - he used them all as bait when he was supposed to be a friend - wonder if The Queen ends up shacking up with him. But that's what's sick about the character/movie - he thinks this behavior is normal - like when he's consoling/calming Dani about the cliff jumping telling her he wanted to show her more than anyone as he's creepily sitting next to her calming her. What a wormy mentally ill douche.
It's rare a movie leaves an impression on me like this - which makes a good movie IMO - but I won't watch this again - too disturbing.
*** Edit - also in terms of sense of unity and family - when the other 'Queens' are consoling Dani down on her knees when she's distraught after finding out/seeing Christian have sex with the other broad - it gave Dani a sense of family/support as well. Obviously this doesn't need a sequel - but I wonder if Dani lives to be an elder and jumps off a cliff or offers herself up for sacrifice during a latter festival. Maybe she like the creepy guy who got them over there goes back to America to bring more sacrificial lambs back to slaughter after being brainwashed for a few years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 8:57:44 GMT
I'll give you a couple that I've recently watched to avoid like the plague...
The Diabolical. The Hospital.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 20, 2020 16:44:50 GMT
Ok folks - I've got a modern day classic that just came out last year. Just watched 'Brightburn' - what a gem! 8/10 beers! Ever see the movie 'Chronicle' - about the 3 friends who gained super powers and one was evil? That's a gem in itself - anywho - this has a little bit of 'Chronicle' in it - evil kid learns he has super powers/he's an alien. Get er watched folks
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 20, 2020 18:58:48 GMT
Watching 'Victor Crowley' right now - boy is this bad - how did HBO produce this - and I'm a 'Hatchet' fan
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 20, 2020 20:19:09 GMT
Watching 'Victor Crowley' right now - boy is this bad - how did HBO produce this - and I'm a 'Hatchet' fan They didn't produce it, they're just showing it on HBO. But yeah it sucks. It's clearly cheaper and lower grade than even the previous ones, which I don't even care for all that much.. but at least those were kinda funny. This one really tries, but the humor doesn't work and they don't seem to have the resources to give us the amount of crazy over the top gore to keep anybody the least bit interested. And then Danielle Harris doesn't even show up til the movie's over. Lame.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 20, 2020 20:24:56 GMT
Ok folks - I've got a modern day classic that just came out last year. Just watched 'Brightburn' - what a gem! 8/10 beers! Ever see the movie 'Chronicle' - about the 3 friends who gained super powers and one was evil? That's a gem in itself - anywho - this has a little bit of 'Chronicle' in it - evil kid learns he has super powers/he's an alien. Get er watched folks Been meaning to check that out.. I think it's on starz now.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 20, 2020 20:41:47 GMT
Ok folks - I've got a modern day classic that just came out last year. Just watched 'Brightburn' - what a gem! 8/10 beers! Ever see the movie 'Chronicle' - about the 3 friends who gained super powers and one was evil? That's a gem in itself - anywho - this has a little bit of 'Chronicle' in it - evil kid learns he has super powers/he's an alien. Get er watched folks Been meaning to check that out.. I think it's on starz now. It's free on Netflix too right now - I really enjoyed it. Reminded me a bit of Chronicle which I'll have to revisit at one point since I enjoyed that too.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 20, 2020 20:43:43 GMT
Watching 'Victor Crowley' right now - boy is this bad - how did HBO produce this - and I'm a 'Hatchet' fan They didn't produce it, they're just showing it on HBO. But yeah it sucks. It's clearly cheaper and lower grade than even the previous ones, which I don't even care for all that much.. but at least those were kinda funny. This one really tries, but the humor doesn't work and they don't seem to have the resources to give us the amount of crazy over the top gore to keep anybody the least bit interested. And then Danielle Harris doesn't even show up til the movie's over. Lame. It started off 'fun' - but boy was the next hour or so abysmal. Seemed like the gore started to pick up a bit but turned it off with about 20 minutes left as the Sixers/Nets MLK Day Game started. Don't think I'll revisit it - well - maybe since you said Danielle Harris has a cameo.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 20, 2020 22:43:41 GMT
They didn't produce it, they're just showing it on HBO. But yeah it sucks. It's clearly cheaper and lower grade than even the previous ones, which I don't even care for all that much.. but at least those were kinda funny. This one really tries, but the humor doesn't work and they don't seem to have the resources to give us the amount of crazy over the top gore to keep anybody the least bit interested. And then Danielle Harris doesn't even show up til the movie's over. Lame. It started off 'fun' - but boy was the next hour or so abysmal. Seemed like the gore started to pick up a bit but turned it off with about 20 minutes left as the Sixers/Nets MLK Day Game started. Don't think I'll revisit it - well - maybe since you said Danielle Harris has a cameo. Sorry for spoiling that for you, I figured you finished it. It doesn't serve much purpose other than setting up another sequel that nobody really wants to see.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 7:09:49 GMT
Looking to check out 1 of 2 films.
Dr Sleep or the new Grudge.
Mind you, I didn't find The Shining scary at all. The Grudge however for me is the film that I refuse to ever rewatch as it scared the living fuck outta me.
So I ask, in order to get enough tension and scare out of me, which should I rent? Dr Sleep is really long which hesitates me. The Grudge however I'm just so hesitant to reenter that world.
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Post by sdm3 on Mar 31, 2020 7:43:41 GMT
I thought this year’s The Invisible Man was a fun one. Elisabeth Moss is always great.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 8:30:55 GMT
I thought this year’s The Invisible Man was a fun one. Elisabeth Moss is always great. Is there a story to it?
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Post by MrFurious on Mar 31, 2020 10:57:54 GMT
Just turn on the tv. There is a comedy broadcast from the White House every evening though, the rest of the day is horror.
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