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Post by Salzmank on Apr 12, 2017 16:16:32 GMT
Oh, and I should also add that I'd love to see the sadly lost The Rogue Song, Laurel and Hardy's first appearance in a feature-length film and the only feature in which they appeared in color. I'm a huge fan of "the Boys"--they're my favorite comedy team--and, whether this is a particularly good movie or not, I'd be interested in seeing it just as a fan of theirs. (On an historical level, it's also intriguing for being the first of their comic operettas, a genre in which the Boys specialized in their features--vide Fra Diavolo, The Bohemian Girl, Swiss Miss, and of course the best of them all, Babes in Toyland--and for being directed by our old friend Lionel Barrymore!) It's my understanding that "the Boys" were not smoothly integrated into the plot, unlike the others you mentioned, their scenes having been shot as an end-of-production afterthought and shoehorned in, resulting in a Lawrence Tibbett operetta with L&H interludes. That being the case, I'd be satisfied if just their sequences were rediscovered. It's said that Hal Roach directed their scenes (rather than the film's credited one, Lionel Barrymore), which may suggest the possibility that they were actually shot not at MGM but at the Roach lot, which could suggest the further possibility that dupe negs or prints of those scenes (in either Technicolor or B&W) had at some point existed elsewhere than the now-lost MGM materials. And that's whatcha call optimism based on next to nothing. Huh, good information to know, Doghouse. I'd never heard that L&H's scenes were filmed on the Roach lot, possibly by Roach. In fact, I never knew Roach personally directed any of their work. I know he micromanaged a great deal of it, but I thought the actual direction was usually done by guys like James Parrott and Leo McCarey. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Apr 12, 2017 16:22:26 GMT
Chico's in the checked cap, wearing glasses, between the two women. Zeppo's on the other side of the girl who has her hands on the man's chest. Zeppo is the one I IDd earlier as Chico. A Marx Bro. but the wrong name. So, was Chico I couldn't find. |
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Post by Doghouse6 on Apr 12, 2017 16:33:18 GMT
It's my understanding that "the Boys" were not smoothly integrated into the plot, unlike the others you mentioned, their scenes having been shot as an end-of-production afterthought and shoehorned in, resulting in a Lawrence Tibbett operetta with L&H interludes. That being the case, I'd be satisfied if just their sequences were rediscovered. It's said that Hal Roach directed their scenes (rather than the film's credited one, Lionel Barrymore), which may suggest the possibility that they were actually shot not at MGM but at the Roach lot, which could suggest the further possibility that dupe negs or prints of those scenes (in either Technicolor or B&W) had at some point existed elsewhere than the now-lost MGM materials. And that's whatcha call optimism based on next to nothing. Huh, good information to know, Doghouse. I'd never heard that L&H's scenes were filmed on the Roach lot, possibly by Roach. In fact, I never knew Roach personally directed any of their work. I know he micromanaged a great deal of it, but I thought the actual direction was usually done by guys like James Parrott and Leo McCarey. Well, other than the business about Roach's personal participation (which may have been due both to the production being a big-deal MGM musical and the last-minute nature of their involvement), it's all purely speculative on my part. And speaking of big deals, it certainly wouldn't have been one for L&H and company to have driven the few blocks west on Washington Blvd from the Roach to the MGM lot to do their work (as they had for The Hollywood Revue). Mostly just my idly optimistic musings. |
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Post by Salzmank on Apr 12, 2017 16:39:17 GMT
Huh, good information to know, Doghouse. I'd never heard that L&H's scenes were filmed on the Roach lot, possibly by Roach. In fact, I never knew Roach personally directed any of their work. I know he micromanaged a great deal of it, but I thought the actual direction was usually done by guys like James Parrott and Leo McCarey. Well, other than the business about Roach's personal participation (which may have been due both to the production being a big-deal MGM musical and the last-minute nature of their involvement), it's all purely speculative on my part. And speaking of big deals, it certainly wouldn't have been one for L&H and company to have driven the few blocks east on Washington Blvd from the Roach to the MGM lot to do their work (as they had for The Hollywood Revue). Mostly just my idly optimistic musings. Well, I always appreciate idly optimistic musings. I often do the same.  |
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Post by Doghouse6 on Apr 12, 2017 16:44:36 GMT
Well, other than the business about Roach's personal participation (which may have been due both to the production being a big-deal MGM musical and the last-minute nature of their involvement), it's all purely speculative on my part. And speaking of big deals, it certainly wouldn't have been one for L&H and company to have driven the few blocks east on Washington Blvd from the Roach to the MGM lot to do their work (as they had for The Hollywood Revue). Mostly just my idly optimistic musings. Well, I always appreciate idly optimistic musings. I often do the same. Just for the record (and I've already made the correction in my earlier post), MGM was west of Roach, not east as erroneously stated. I know: who cares, right? But I hate leaving even small messes unattended to. |
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Post by mcavanaugh on Apr 12, 2017 16:59:34 GMT
I'd like to see the 1923 lost film, "The Face on the Bar-Room Floor," directed by John Ford. I've never seen it, but a friend's dad did see it and said it's very good.
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Post by teleadm on Apr 12, 2017 17:29:49 GMT
F.W. Murnau's American circus film 4 Devils 1928, the movie he did after the more famous Sunrise 1927. It was as an extra on the Sunrise DVD, showed with production stills, promotion stills, storyboards and following the script, but the actual film is listed as lost. Since it's been showned in at least 15 countries outside USA it's not impossible there is a copy somewhere in some old loft or some long forgotten vault in some old building that maybe at some point was a cinema house.
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