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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 8, 2019 18:56:27 GMT
IM was pretty successful. It made $300 million domestically, and had the second best OW for a non-sequel after the Sam Raimi Spider-Man film. It did a lot better than anyone was expecting it to. You are right about TIH not doing very well, but the success of IM was enough to make up for it. It was decently successful, but not so successful that you'd think "OMG! That was so successful that it's a clear sign we can make a shared universe work!". Pretty much all the DCEU movies earned more money than it did, yet DC still felt they were failing. And other than IM2, all the phase 1 MCU movies prior to Avengers earned less than IM. Other studios would have probably given up by the time CATFA numbers came in. But the MCU never gave up and stuck to their plan. That's what's missing with these other studios - commitment to their shared universe. I'm hoping the Monsters universe holds up. It’s difficult to argue that something like BvS wasn’t a severe disappointment. It was expected to be a billion dollar movie, yet it fell short of the $900 million mark, received really bad reviews, and had the worst legs of any movie that opened north of $100 million. Sure, it made more money than the first two IM films, but it also had much higher expectations going for it, and it couldn’t live up to them. IM may not have been a record shattering success, but it certainly laid a solid foundation to build off of, which you can’t say for BvS.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 8, 2019 19:22:33 GMT
It was decently successful, but not so successful that you'd think "OMG! That was so successful that it's a clear sign we can make a shared universe work!". Pretty much all the DCEU movies earned more money than it did, yet DC still felt they were failing. And other than IM2, all the phase 1 MCU movies prior to Avengers earned less than IM. Other studios would have probably given up by the time CATFA numbers came in. But the MCU never gave up and stuck to their plan. That's what's missing with these other studios - commitment to their shared universe. I'm hoping the Monsters universe holds up. It’s difficult to argue that something like BvS wasn’t a severe disappointment. It was expected to be a billion dollar movie, yet it fell short of the $900 million mark, received really bad reviews, and had the worst legs of any movie that opened north of $100 million. Sure, it made more money than the first two IM films, but it also had much higher expectations going for it, and it couldn’t live up to them. IM may not have been a record shattering success, but it certainly laid a solid foundation to build off of, which you can’t say for BvS. Ah, but now you're talking about expectations which are subjective and goes back to one of the points I raised where these studios want immediate success, without really putting the effort to earn it first. It also reinforces what I said where they don't have the balls to stick to their plans once they face disappointment. The Hulk was the most famous character the MCU had rights to. Do you not think they were severely disappointed when TIH only made the kind of money it did? |
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Post by northernlad on Jul 9, 2019 6:30:27 GMT
I approve! For example, I do NOT want to see Batman side by side on the screen with Superman or anyone else. I love it when Batman is working alone solving crimes. Have each of the main DC characters have their own separate universes. It will work just fine. That's been done to death. It's time for a shared look at things, they just need to take their time with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 9:04:57 GMT
I approve! For example, I do NOT want to see Batman side by side on the screen with Superman or anyone else. I love it when Batman is working alone solving crimes. Have each of the main DC characters have their own separate universes. It will work just fine. That's been done to death. It's time for a shared look at things, they just need to take their time with it. Fair enough but I just think Superman is outdated at this point and it'd be kinda goofy if Batman is working side by side with him. I am confident in what DC is striving for right now (esp with Matt Reeves' Batman franchise) .
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 9, 2019 17:56:10 GMT
I approve! For example, I do NOT want to see Batman side by side on the screen with Superman or anyone else. I love it when Batman is working alone solving crimes. Have each of the main DC characters have their own separate universes. It will work just fine. . I'd like it if he did interact with Superman (on friendlier terms). ^this^
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 9, 2019 19:12:24 GMT
Mixed.
On one hand I liked seeing them together on the big screen and there's so much story potential for not only future Justice League films but for other possible crossovers.
And on the other they do seem to be better at solo films.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 11, 2019 12:47:11 GMT
Mixed. On one hand I liked seeing them together on the big screen and there's so much story potential for not only future Justice League films but for other possible crossovers. And on the other they do seem to be better at solo films. Bring in James Gunn. The best Justice League movie we’ve gotten so far is the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. It’s got the same lineup: the tech guy with a sad past, the soft-hearted sidekick, the weird hybrid, the giant bruiser, and the hot warrior chick. Except no Superman. And the villain Ronan ironically is taken very seriously so he’s as close to Darkseid as we’ve seen so far. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 11, 2019 15:36:14 GMT
Mixed. On one hand I liked seeing them together on the big screen and there's so much story potential for not only future Justice League films but for other possible crossovers. And on the other they do seem to be better at solo films. Bring in James Gunn. The best Justice League movie we’ve gotten so far is the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. It’s got the same lineup: the tech guy with a sad past, the soft-hearted sidekick, the weird hybrid, the giant bruiser, and the hot warrior chick. Except no Superman. And the villain Ronan ironically is taken very seriously so he’s as close to Darkseid as we’ve seen so far. How is Ronan like Darkseid?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 11, 2019 15:46:09 GMT
Mixed. On one hand I liked seeing them together on the big screen and there's so much story potential for not only future Justice League films but for other possible crossovers. And on the other they do seem to be better at solo films. Ronan ironically is taken very seriously so he’s as close to Darkseid as we’ve seen so far. Ronan isn't taken seriously at all since he was defeated by a silly Dance-Off. And Ronan is nothing like Darkseid. Darkseid would never be defeated by a silly Dance-Off.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 11, 2019 16:18:07 GMT
Ronan ironically is taken very seriously so he’s as close to Darkseid as we’ve seen so far. Ronan isn't taken seriously at all since he was defeated by a silly Dance-Off. And Ronan is nothing like Darkseid. Darkseid would never be defeated by a silly Dance-Off. 
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Post by politicidal on Jul 11, 2019 16:32:27 GMT
Bring in James Gunn. The best Justice League movie we’ve gotten so far is the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. It’s got the same lineup: the tech guy with a sad past, the soft-hearted sidekick, the weird hybrid, the giant bruiser, and the hot warrior chick. Except no Superman. And the villain Ronan ironically is taken very seriously so he’s as close to Darkseid as we’ve seen so far. How is Ronan like Darkseid? Giant blackclad no-nonsense alien tyrant. And he's actually there unlike the crap CGI for Steppenwolf.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 11, 2019 16:36:04 GMT
How is Ronan like Darkseid? Giant blackclad no-nonsense alien tyrant. And he's actually there unlike the crap CGI for Steppenwolf. Ronan was taking orders from Thanos for a good chunk of the movie. I wouldn’t compare that to Darkseid. Besides, Darkseid was also going to be rendered with CGI. Steppenwolf would honestly be a better comparison to Ronan.
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