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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 14:49:08 GMT
Okay, I had a very weird morning. As most of you know I'm on here (and old IMDb) frequently discussing movies. I have racing thoughts and random scenes from a film will pop into my mind and I'll quote it, and 99% of the time I "Google" it and relive my childhood memories or whatever, then come here to discuss it. Well I remember this scene from a film with Sinbad dressed as a Genie. He was with these two kids. Anyway, in one scene there is a cab driver in traffic and Sinbad the genie makes the car skinny so they can fly through to get somewhere really fast. I 'googled' it this morning and the movies doesn't f'ing exist. I'm not crazy. A) It's not "Kazam!" with Shaq. I know because I was a huge Basketball fan as a kid and I loved all Shaq things (I know, bad taste) I drank Pepsi and wore Zebra High Tops with "Shaq" on them, so I wouldn't mistake this film with that one. B) I remember specific scenes, in my head. He had huge hoop earrings and purple pants in one scene. C) I called my dad this morning and he said he hated that movie because it was so stupid, then I told him it doesn't exist and he thought I was playing some elaborate trick on him. ?? I'm so confused right now.
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Post by jervistetch on Apr 11, 2017 14:53:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 15:00:21 GMT
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Post by jervistetch on Apr 11, 2017 15:19:47 GMT
I know. Right?
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 11, 2017 16:46:58 GMT
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Apr 11, 2017 17:18:13 GMT
I sometimes remember the ending of a film completely wrong, and am surprised when I re-watch it. Not as bad as remembering a film which never existed, but still....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 17:54:48 GMT
I've been doing research on this Mandela Effect. Apparently even the guy who played the Cab Driver says it's weird because he remembers filming that scene, but Sinbad says it never happened. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people who claim this movie existed.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 11, 2017 17:56:20 GMT
I've been doing research on this Mandela Effect. Apparently even the guy who played the Cab Driver says it's weird because he remembers filming that scene, but Sinbad says it never happened. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people who claim this movie existed. Do you have a link to the case where the cab driver says it happened? I've never seen that. Yes, you're correct, there are many people who believe it existed. It's quite remarkable.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 11, 2017 17:59:15 GMT
Here's a good article about it, by the way. And here's a video that the website College Humor made for April Fools, pretending to be a scene from the movie. It's not real, of course, but I wonder if you think it's similar to what you remember, @mellomoviereview. On the other hand, maybe you shouldn't click the link after all, because I don't want this modern video to influence your memories!
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Apr 11, 2017 18:37:37 GMT
This reminds me: A lot of people claim to have watched the TV broadcast where Arthur Godfrey fired singer Julius La Rosa on the air. They recall the horrible expression on La Rosa's face.
Problem: You see, in reality Godfrey's show was simulcast on TV and radio. But only part of the broadcast was simulcast on TV, the other part of the program was only on radio....and the part where La Rosa was fired was during the radio-only part of the program.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 11, 2017 18:59:23 GMT
This reminds me: A lot of people claim to have watched the TV broadcast where Arthur Godfrey fired singer Julius La Rosa on the air. They recall the horrible expression on La Rosa's face.
Problem: You see, in reality Godfrey's show was simulcast on TV and radio. But only part of the broadcast was simulcast on TV, the other part of the program was only on radio....and the part where La Rosa was fired was during the radio-only part of the program.
Huh. Funny. I never knew that one. I suppose the Mandela Effect folks would say that it's very easy to imagine a scene, especially if it's being described on radio (which feeds on the imagination)--whereas imagining an entire movie from whole cloth is rather different. Therefore, most of the skeptical explanations focus on proving that the movie didn't come from whole cloth: that there are sources in Sinbad's TV special, in the movie Kazaam, even in the Disney Aladdin (some have claimed that the appearance of the genie in that movie was based on that of Shazaam). What makes Shazaam (does one italicize a movie that doesn't exist? )so curious is that so many people remember identical factors about the movie (the kids, the baggy pants, the earrings) that have nothing to do with these sources. Is there another source? Probably. But it's still curious.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 20:01:40 GMT
I've been doing research on this Mandela Effect. Apparently even the guy who played the Cab Driver says it's weird because he remembers filming that scene, but Sinbad says it never happened. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people who claim this movie existed. Do you have a link to the case where the cab driver says it happened? I've never seen that. Yes, you're correct, there are many people who believe it existed. It's quite remarkable. imgur.com/gallery/kRTTE
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 11, 2017 20:46:31 GMT
Do you have a link to the case where the cab driver says it happened? I've never seen that. Yes, you're correct, there are many people who believe it existed. It's quite remarkable. imgur.com/gallery/kRTTEWell, gee, but that link isn't exactly trustworthy, is it? I mean, on "Imgur," without a name or any kind of identification? If he were a known actor, even if only a bit player, with some kind of resume, then that would be different. But we don't have information in that regard.
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Apr 11, 2017 20:51:39 GMT
Well, gee, but that link isn't exactly trustworthy, is it? I mean, on "Imgur," without a name or any kind of identification? If he were a known actor, even if only a bit player, with some kind of resume, then that would be different. But we don't have information in that regard. People on the Internet have really low standards for sources of information. I even once saw Wikipedia use a random person's forum post as a reference for an article on an old TV series.
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Post by Jerk on Apr 11, 2017 21:20:15 GMT
Your memory is not as reliable as you think it is. That's all that is. And it's more and more common.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 11, 2017 22:30:32 GMT
Your memory is not as reliable as you think it is. That's all that is. And it's more and more common. See, I'm skeptical of this stuff, but I don't think that's all there is. I think there's more to the story. According to one article I read, people were coming into video stores in 2000 asking for a movie that doesn't exist. Now, that's very possibly unreliable, but we know for certain that someone asked about it in 2004. People have been asking about this for at least 13 years and getting the same answer for all those years ("it's Kazaam!"), yet they refuse to accept it? That's extraordinary! Some sources, unfortunately, delight in calling those who remember the picture "racist," probably one of the most overused terms nowadays. (I don't mean to get into politics! Just making a point.) They state that those who remember it are confusing one Black man ("Sinbad") with another (Shaquille O'Neal), thereby supposedly validating their "racist" claim. Here's my point: why Sinbad? If that's true, which I don't believe for a minute, why not the million other Black men who were around and could possibly be in such a movie? Now, you're probably going to give me any number of reasons: it's because his stage name was "Sinbad," a character in The Arabian Nights; it's because he wore baggy pants on stage; it's because he hosted a Sinbad movie marathon in the '90s, wearing genie-like clothing. All very true, but that's my point: there are mitigating factors. It's not so easy as "your memory isn't reliable. That's all there is." Respectfully, there probably was never a Sinbad genie movie, in this or--er--any other universe, but there is more to this story.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 11, 2017 23:28:11 GMT
I assumed shaq but wasnt sure.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 11, 2017 23:59:42 GMT
@mellomoviereview, what are your specific recollections of the movie, besides those you've already listed? I'm interested in tracking down the reasons for this movie's not being around, whatever the explanation is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 1:35:42 GMT
@mellomoviereview , what are your specific recollections of the movie, besides those you've already listed? I'm interested in tracking down the reasons for this movie's not being around, whatever the explanation is. I remember my Dad and I watching it. I was very young. We ordered on Pay-Per-View. We had one of those rotating satellite dishes, you know, the big black one with G5, F4, and all those groups of channels. Anyway, I was young and only remember seeing it once. Basically the premise was there were two kids who find the lamp, ones a boy the other is a girl. I remember his summoning lightning and scaring them saying "I am Shazam!" Then he starts acting silly to let them know he's not scary. Then it becomes a typical Sinbad style family comedy. They only get three wishes (not each, he made that clear). I just remember there being a scene when he's inside his lamp and the kids see what it's like inside there. I remeber the big hoop earrings, the baggy purple pants, the pointy shoes... I just remember small scenes. That's what's weird, what I do remember is vivid, but I can't remember the whole story, like pieces of my memory are missing. I want to say he falls in love, that's a side plot. What's really weird is I can't remember how it ends. P.S. I had another memory after posting. The boy and girl cannot agree on what to wish for, she gets mad about his wish and he doesn't like her wish, or at least they are arguing about what to wish for...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 1:39:45 GMT
Well, gee, but that link isn't exactly trustworthy, is it? I mean, on "Imgur," without a name or any kind of identification? If he were a known actor, even if only a bit player, with some kind of resume, then that would be different. But we don't have information in that regard. People on the Internet have really low standards for sources of information. I even once saw Wikipedia use a random person's forum post as a reference for an article on an old TV series. Well apparently this guy is a real actor and that's from his Facebook page. I don't have a Facebook so I couldn't log in and see for myself.
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