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Post by sostie on Jul 9, 2019 15:30:00 GMT
Maybe someone just wants a 15 year old to have a "relationship" with a cyborg? She's only 15 if you assume she was born in a specific year which was never specified!
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Post by dazz on Jul 9, 2019 15:33:40 GMT
Wanda's apartment was shelled by a Stark Mortar when she was 10 years old. Stark was CEO of Stark Industries at the time Stark was CEO between 1991 and 2010, although they ceased making weapons in 2008. Age Of Ultron set in 2015 Civil War 2016 She could have been born anytime between 1981 and 2000. Seeing you for some reason want her to be as young as possible (whatever floats your boat) the earliest age she was when she started her relationship with Vision is therefore 16. A relationship with a 1 year old android!! But Cap called her a kid. If I’ve learned one thing from MCU fanatics it’s that calling something ‘ki@@ie’ is the worst thing that you can say to them. So do you really think that Cap would say that if she wasn’t a child? Is he that much of a jerk as to utter the worst insult imaginable? Depending on how retarded you want to go, and it's you so I would say midway between certifiably and full Dc-Fan, Cap's jerkiness is quite high, he kept the truth about Tony's parents murders secret from Tony for atleast a couple of years whilst letting Tony pay for everything for him, he judged Tony based on nothing but Tony's wealth the second he met him, he put more stock in the words of an emotionally distressed young woman who had just minutes earlier been helping an ASI killbot and who had intentionally set Hulk off on a mystically induced rage on a unsuspecting populated city rather than have faith in Tony, then he used Tony "grounding" said young woman after she accidentally caused the death of dozens of people as an excuse for him to not sign the accords and tried making out it's because he cannot trust Tony, all the while still lying to Tony about his parents...yeah Cap's a jerk, so saying Cap wouldn't be jerk enough to say such an "offensive" thing to Wanda is a bit silly and doesn't prove anything, or even imply anything other than Cap's an old bastard.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 9, 2019 15:39:08 GMT
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Post by dazz on Jul 9, 2019 15:48:13 GMT
So you're saying 15 yr old girls should not be allowed to have relationships? In most states it’s illegal to have a sexual relationship with a 15 yo. Which state is Avengers HQ? NY? The age of consent there is 17. And she's from Sokovia a country sandwiched between the Czech Republic & Slovakia both of which have the age of consent at 15 so best guess would put Sokovia in the same boat, meaning by the laws of her land she would be old enough, then you factor in she clearly was emancipated or something of the sort to be able to give consent to the experimentation she and her brother volunteered for, which may also impact such legalities...all this ignoring the obvious fact she isn't 15 but significantly older, as pointed out Peter being 15 is an important factor in his character in CW, so seems unlikely Tony would be worried about Peter but not Wanda.
Oh and the fact Vision is younger than Wanda, if anything she's the one being inappropriate with a minor.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 15:49:58 GMT
But Cap called her a kid. If I’ve learned one thing from MCU fanatics it’s that calling something ‘ki@@ie’ is the worst thing that you can say to them. So do you really think that Cap would say that if she wasn’t a child? Is he that much of a jerk as to utter the worst insult imaginable? Depending on how retarded you want to go, and it's you so I would say midway between certifiably and full Dc-Fan, Cap's jerkiness is quite high, he kept the truth about Tony's parents murders secret from Tony for atleast a couple of years whilst letting Tony pay for everything for him, he judged Tony based on nothing but Tony's wealth the second he met him, he put more stock in the words of an emotionally distressed young woman who had just minutes earlier been helping an ASI killbot and who had intentionally set Hulk off on a mystically induced rage on a unsuspecting populated city rather than have faith in Tony, then he used Tony "grounding" said young woman after she accidentally caused the death of dozens of people as an excuse for him to not sign the accords and tried making out it's because he cannot trust Tony, all the while still lying to Tony about his parents...yeah Cap's a jerk, so saying Cap wouldn't be jerk enough to say such an "offensive" thing to Wanda is a bit silly and doesn't prove anything, or even imply anything other than Cap's an old bastard.
It's the little things that amuse me. In Winter Soldier, Cap tells Falcon it's time to suit up. Falcon asks Cap is he's going dressed in his regular clothes to which Cap looks back and says no, if you're going to fight in a war you need a uniform. It's an exposition quote. My first thought was no shit, Sherlock, of course you need a uniform. Way to make Falcon feel like he doesn't know that.
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Post by bud47 on Jul 9, 2019 15:50:58 GMT
Because it's MCU and therefore no detail is too small or inconsequential to nitpick and over-analyze. I guess that's my issue; it looks less like nitpicking and more like 'won't somebody please think of the children!'. What do these same fans do for an R rated movie, hide under the bed? That's what detractors of these films do though. Make big issues out of small things or things that aren't there.
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Post by dazz on Jul 9, 2019 15:59:56 GMT
Because it's MCU and therefore no detail is too small or inconsequential to nitpick and over-analyze. I guess that's my issue; it looks less like nitpicking and more like 'won't somebody please think of the children!'. What do these same fans do for an R rated movie, hide under the bed? Typically they stand outside the theatres stomping their feet and throwing tantrums because their mothers or carers in the case of the resident repetitive spam monkey wont take them to go see R rated movies, tbh I would be surprised if said spam monkey were ever allowed to see any movie in the theatres due to fear he would try and chew the seats or you know shit himself, explains why he watches so many of the MCU films on low quality cam rips with hardcoded Korean subtitles.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 16:02:33 GMT
I guess that's my issue; it looks less like nitpicking and more like 'won't somebody please think of the children!'. What do these same fans do for an R rated movie, hide under the bed? Typically they stand outside the theatres stomping their feet and throwing tantrums because their mothers or carers in the case of the resident repetitive spam monkey wont take them to go see R rated movies, tbh I would be surprised if said spam monkey were ever allowed to see any movie in the theatres due to fear he would try and chew the seats or you know shit himself, explains why he watches so many of the MCU films on low quality cam rips with hardcoded Korean subtitles. Damn, homie. Fire.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 9, 2019 16:23:33 GMT
In most states it’s illegal to have a sexual relationship with a 15 yo. Which state is Avengers HQ? NY? The age of consent there is 17. And she's from Sokovia a country sandwiched between the Czech Republic & Slovakia both of which have the age of consent at 15 so best guess would put Sokovia in the same boat, meaning by the laws of her land she would be old enough
What the fuck does the laws of her land have to do with it? If a country allows a 15-year-old to have consensual sex with an adult, if that 15-year-old does it while in the US, it's still illegal. Because the laws of her land don't mean shit in the US. It's the US laws that govern actions on US soil.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 9, 2019 16:24:15 GMT
In most states it’s illegal to have a sexual relationship with a 15 yo. Which state is Avengers HQ? NY? The age of consent there is 17. And she's from Sokovia a country sandwiched between the Czech Republic & Slovakia both of which have the age of consent at 15 so best guess would put Sokovia in the same boat, meaning by the laws of her land she would be old enough, then you factor in she clearly was emancipated or something of the sort to be able to give consent to the experimentation she and her brother volunteered for, which may also impact such legalities...all this ignoring the obvious fact she isn't 15 but significantly older, as pointed out Peter being 15 is an important factor in his character in CW, so seems unlikely Tony would be worried about Peter but not Wanda.
Oh and the fact Vision is younger than Wanda, if anything she's the one being inappropriate with a minor.
There's also no law in place that I know of in the US that makes it illegal for two underage teens to get into a relationship.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 9, 2019 16:24:45 GMT
And she's from Sokovia a country sandwiched between the Czech Republic & Slovakia both of which have the age of consent at 15 so best guess would put Sokovia in the same boat, meaning by the laws of her land she would be old enough
What the fuck does the laws of her land have to do with it? If a country allows a 15-year-old to have consensual sex with an adult, if that 15-year-old does it while in the US, it's still illegal. Because the laws of her land don't mean shit in the US. It's the US laws that govern actions on US soil. How do you know they're even having sex? Do you see any sex organs on Vision? Is Vision even an adult?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 9, 2019 16:43:58 GMT
Wanda's apartment was shelled by a Stark Mortar when she was 10 years old. Stark was CEO of Stark Industries at the time Stark was CEO between 1991 and 2010, although they ceased making weapons in 2008. Age Of Ultron set in 2015 Civil War 2016 She could have been born anytime between 1981 and 2000. Seeing you for some reason want her to be as young as possible (whatever floats your boat) the earliest age she was when she started her relationship with Vision is therefore 16. A relationship with a 1 year old android!! She never really did get into a relationship with him till Infinity War though. They were only starting to flirt in CW. That makes her 18 at her youngest. I've said before that Bucky murdered Howard and Maria Stark and should be tried for their murders. MCU fans defended Bucky's heinous crimes by claiming Bucky was brainwashed by HYDRA so HYDRA is responsible for those murders. Then when it was pointed out that Wanda brainwashed Hulk into destroying a city in Age of Ultron, MCU fans defended Wanda by claiming she was just a child and a child shouldn't be held responsible for those actions. Now in this thread, MCU fans are claiming Wanda is an adult. The hypocrisy by MCU fans here is just incredible!
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 9, 2019 17:11:33 GMT
She never really did get into a relationship with him till Infinity War though. They were only starting to flirt in CW. That makes her 18 at her youngest. I've said before that Bucky murdered Howard and Maria Stark and should be tried for their murders. MCU fans defended Bucky's heinous crimes by claiming Bucky was brainwashed by HYDRA so HYDRA is responsible for those murders. Then when it was pointed out that Wanda brainwashed Hulk into destroying a city in Age of Ultron, MCU fans defended Wanda by claiming she was just a child and a child shouldn't be held responsible for those actions. Now in this thread, MCU fans are claiming Wanda is an adult. The hypocrisy by MCU fans here is just incredible! ✅✅✅ I can’t wait until someone makes a viral YouTube vid of these issues and others. It needs to gain traction. I seriously think that most MCU films could go down the track of Song of the South as an embarrassment of immorality that fanatics refused to acknowledge at the time. They’ll be dropped from streaming sites and TV schedules like The Cosby Show. Don’t think it can’t happen guys.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 9, 2019 17:30:51 GMT
I've said before that Bucky murdered Howard and Maria Stark and should be tried for their murders. MCU fans defended Bucky's heinous crimes by claiming Bucky was brainwashed by HYDRA so HYDRA is responsible for those murders. Then when it was pointed out that Wanda brainwashed Hulk into destroying a city in Age of Ultron, MCU fans defended Wanda by claiming she was just a child and a child shouldn't be held responsible for those actions. Now in this thread, MCU fans are claiming Wanda is an adult. The hypocrisy by MCU fans here is just incredible! ✅✅✅ I can’t wait until someone makes a viral YouTube vid of these issues and others. It needs to gain traction. I seriously think that most MCU films could go down the track of Song of the South as an embarrassment of immorality that fanatics refused to acknowledge at the time. They’ll be dropped from streaming sites and TV schedules like The Cosby Show. Don’t think it can’t happen guys. Why are you dodging me Power Ranger? Please name the state where it is illegal for two 15 yr old teenagers to enter into a relationship.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 9, 2019 17:34:36 GMT
She never really did get into a relationship with him till Infinity War though. They were only starting to flirt in CW. That makes her 18 at her youngest. I've said before that Bucky murdered Howard and Maria Stark and should be tried for their murders. MCU fans defended Bucky's heinous crimes by claiming Bucky was brainwashed by HYDRA so HYDRA is responsible for those murders. Then when it was pointed out that Wanda brainwashed Hulk into destroying a city in Age of Ultron, MCU fans defended Wanda by claiming she was just a child and a child shouldn't be held responsible for those actions. Now in this thread, MCU fans are claiming Wanda is an adult. The hypocrisy by MCU fans here is just incredible! Please point me to the exact thread and post where an MCU fan claimed Wanda should not be held accountable for her actions because she was a child. I have a feeling you're making this up again.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 9, 2019 17:36:49 GMT
✅✅✅ I can’t wait until someone makes a viral YouTube vid of these issues and others. It needs to gain traction. I seriously think that most MCU films could go down the track of Song of the South as an embarrassment of immorality that fanatics refused to acknowledge at the time. They’ll be dropped from streaming sites and TV schedules like The Cosby Show. Don’t think it can’t happen guys. Why are you dodging me Power Ranger? Please name the state where it is illegal for two 15 yr old teenagers to enter into a relationship. So you’re looking for technicalities to exonerate Vision? You’re getting desperate. Vision has been recruited for battle. He would not be considered a newborn or a toddler. He is derived from older entities. Just because he doesn’t conform to established views of personhood don’t think that he isn’t a person before the law. If he committed crimes like murder he would face justice. If he committed sexual crimes he would face justice.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 9, 2019 17:53:20 GMT
This is more total stupidity. There is never any suggestion that she is 15. Previous posters have shown you the numbers that she is at least 18 when the relationship starts and she most likely early 20's. Does this look like a 15 year old to you?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 9, 2019 17:56:59 GMT
my ex wife was 15 when i started dating her
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 17:59:08 GMT
I've said before that Bucky murdered Howard and Maria Stark and should be tried for their murders. MCU fans defended Bucky's heinous crimes by claiming Bucky was brainwashed by HYDRA so HYDRA is responsible for those murders. Then when it was pointed out that Wanda brainwashed Hulk into destroying a city in Age of Ultron, MCU fans defended Wanda by claiming she was just a child and a child shouldn't be held responsible for those actions. Now in this thread, MCU fans are claiming Wanda is an adult. The hypocrisy by MCU fans here is just incredible! Please point me to the exact thread and post where an MCU fan claimed Wanda should not be held accountable for her actions because she was a child. I have a feeling you're making this up again. I've never seen anybody defend Bucky's crimes either, except Hydra in the movies. Even Stark said the government typically doesn't grant visas to weapons of mass destruction.
All of the above looks made up to me too.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 9, 2019 18:32:48 GMT
Why are you dodging me Power Ranger? Please name the state where it is illegal for two 15 yr old teenagers to enter into a relationship. So you’re looking for technicalities to exonerate Vision? You’re getting desperate. Vision has been recruited for battle. He would not be considered a newborn or a toddler. He is derived from older entities. Just because he doesn’t conform to established views of personhood don’t think that he isn’t a person before the law. If he committed crimes like murder he would face justice. If he committed sexual crimes he would face justice. You're moving goalposts. Your original claim was that it was illegal for a 15 yr old to have a relationship. I'm asking you prove that. Now if you want to change your narrative to it's illegal for an adult to have sexual relationships with a 15 yr old then you need to: 1. Prove that Vision is an adult 2. Prove that Wanda is underage 3. Prove that they've had a sexual relationship
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