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Post by bud47 on Jul 12, 2019 15:40:29 GMT
You know you have a choice right? You don't have to watch these movies, which you obviously hate. Just go back and read the comic books and leave the films for those that enjoy them. These aren't meant to be exact mirrors of the comic books. They're doing their own thing to bring something fresh to the characters and to attract new fans. I do read the books heance the reason i brought them up. You all claim they honor and stay true to the books so thats were i step in as a fan. Whats freash about having a villian be beaten by dancing,a badass hero being trolled by a housepet or all the forced jokes? These movies are made to satisfy a wide range of audience members, not just the hardcore comic book fans that can't accept change. As long as they continue to be successful, they're going to keep doing what works. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can move onto something else. You're not going to change anyone's mind or have any effect on the way these movies are made with your complaints and activist mentality. So just do the simple thing and find something else to watch. You'll save yourself a lot of unnecessary frustration.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 12, 2019 16:10:45 GMT
You know you have a choice right? You don't have to watch these movies, which you obviously hate. Just go back and read the comic books and leave the films for those that enjoy them. These aren't meant to be exact mirrors of the comic books. They're doing their own thing to bring something fresh to the characters and to attract new fans. I do read the books heance the reason i brought them up. You all claim they honor and stay true to the books so thats were i step in as a fan. Whats freash about having a villian be beaten by dancing,a badass hero being trolled by a housepet or all the forced jokes? If you read the comic books then why are so wrong about Goose being a cat? He's a Flerken, they may resemble a cat but they are totally different on every level. Goose is as much a cat as Superman and Goku are human beings. 'freash'? You're seriously going to go back to 'Ronan was defeated by dancing in Guardians' again? Even though you have been told time and time again that he wasn't? Jesus.
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Post by thenewnexus on Jul 12, 2019 16:14:14 GMT
I do read the books heance the reason i brought them up. You all claim they honor and stay true to the books so thats were i step in as a fan. Whats freash about having a villian be beaten by dancing,a badass hero being trolled by a housepet or all the forced jokes? These movies are made to satisfy a wide range of audience members, not just the hardcore comic book fans that can't accept change. As long as they continue to be successful, they're going to keep doing what works. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can move onto something else. You're not going to change anyone's mind or have any effect on the way these movies are made with your complaints and activist mentality. So just do the simple thing and find something else to watch. You'll save yourself a lot of unnecessary frustration. Thats why they will continue to be terrible and making money doesn't make them good. I m gonna continue to call them out til they learn to honor the material
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Post by thenewnexus on Jul 12, 2019 16:16:29 GMT
I do read the books heance the reason i brought them up. You all claim they honor and stay true to the books so thats were i step in as a fan. Whats freash about having a villian be beaten by dancing,a badass hero being trolled by a housepet or all the forced jokes? If you read the comic books then why are so wrong about Goose being a cat? He's a Flerken, they may resemble a cat but they are totally different on every level. Goose is as much a cat as Superman and Goku are human beings. 'freash'? You're seriously going to go back to 'Ronan was defeated by dancing in Guardians' again? Even though you have been told time and time again that he wasn't? Jesus. My problem isn't goose being a cat its you guys saying Nick Fury loss his eye to a scary alien monster but it was nothin more than a cat. There are YouTube vids and gifs of Ronin being beat by dancing
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 12, 2019 16:45:57 GMT
If you read the comic books then why are so wrong about Goose being a cat? He's a Flerken, they may resemble a cat but they are totally different on every level. Goose is as much a cat as Superman and Goku are human beings. 'freash'? You're seriously going to go back to 'Ronan was defeated by dancing in Guardians' again? Even though you have been told time and time again that he wasn't? Jesus. My problem isn't goose being a cat its you guys saying Nick Fury loss his eye to a scary alien monster but it was nothin more than a cat. There are YouTube vids and gifs of Ronin being beat by dancing Well no Goose is definitely not 'nothin more than a cat' Flerkens are dangerous creatures with abilities that no one can comprehend, they may look innocent on the outside but if provoked they can be a real terror - these things carry viruses, can consume practically anything regardless of size or shape even digest bone, metal, and other unknown elements, they can work as portals to different dimensions, the list goes on they are definitely not 'nothing more than a cat'. As for being the cause of Fury losing his eye I actually would agree with you that it wasn't a good choice to make by the filmmakers and that there were tens of millions of other and better alternatives that would've sufficed and been more in tune with his characterization of past appearances. Okay, show me the videos or gifs where Ronan actually accepts Starlord's challenge, where Starlord is selected as the winner of the dance-off, and gives up and leaves Xandar…(Just dancing will *not* do) Because last I checked he stood there annoyed and puzzled by Quill's display of random behavior which was a distraction that allowed Rocket and Drax to use a blaster gun to tear apart his hammer unleashing the infinity gem which the Guardians grab before him and ultimately defeat him.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 12, 2019 16:51:44 GMT
These movies are made to satisfy a wide range of audience members, not just the hardcore comic book fans that can't accept change. As long as they continue to be successful, they're going to keep doing what works. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can move onto something else. You're not going to change anyone's mind or have any effect on the way these movies are made with your complaints and activist mentality. So just do the simple thing and find something else to watch. You'll save yourself a lot of unnecessary frustration. Thats why they will continue to be terrible and making money doesn't make them good. I m gonna continue to call them out til they learn to honor the material As well you should. I hope eventually they will make something superior. My feeling is that they’ve made something special but still lacking. I do understand the financial realities but I think that many of the sillier aspects are unnecessary and that audiences don’t actually want them.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 12, 2019 16:55:54 GMT
These movies are made to satisfy a wide range of audience members, not just the hardcore comic book fans that can't accept change. As long as they continue to be successful, they're going to keep doing what works. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can move onto something else. You're not going to change anyone's mind or have any effect on the way these movies are made with your complaints and activist mentality. So just do the simple thing and find something else to watch. You'll save yourself a lot of unnecessary frustration. Thats why they will continue to be terrible and making money doesn't make them good. I m gonna continue to call them out til they learn to honor the material Terrible according to who, you? The guy who has defended such comic book movie blunders like Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, Fantastic Four 2015, and X-Men Origins: Wolverine? I would say most hardcore comic book fans and movie fans alike would tell you to take your opinions and shove them where the sun doesn't shine or laugh up a storm in your face if you're suggesting any of those three movies are in anyway shape or form better than, say, any Avengers movie, or Iron Man movie, or, well, pretty much any other Marvel Studios. feature. No one is saying making money makes a good movie, show us where anyone here is saying this. When do you care about the source material being honored on screen? You like X-Men Origins: Wolverine, a film that bastardizes the entire X-Men lore and ruins the characters of Wolverine, Sabretooth, Emma Frost, and Deadpool. You also like Venom which has almost nothing to do with the source material, and you also like Aquaman where the titular character was changed from a very regal and honorable character into a dude-bro type.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 12, 2019 16:57:23 GMT
Thats why they will continue to be terrible and making money doesn't make them good. I m gonna continue to call them out til they learn to honor the material As well you should. I hope eventually they will make something superior. My feeling is that they’ve made something special but still lacking. I do understand the financial realities but I think that many of the sillier aspects are unnecessary and that audiences don’t actually want them. FYI thenewnexus Power Ranger isn't being legit here they just wants to see you continue to make a fool out of yourself and get owned by people.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 12, 2019 17:13:33 GMT
Saw it yesterday. It was meh.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 12, 2019 17:28:33 GMT
As well you should. I hope eventually they will make something superior. My feeling is that they’ve made something special but still lacking. I do understand the financial realities but I think that many of the sillier aspects are unnecessary and that audiences don’t actually want them. FYI thenewnexus Power Ranger isn't being legit here they just wants to see you continue to make a fool out of yourself and get owned by people. Ok, I’ll make a fool out of myself. Captain Marvel 9/10!
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Post by bud47 on Jul 12, 2019 17:35:51 GMT
These movies are made to satisfy a wide range of audience members, not just the hardcore comic book fans that can't accept change. As long as they continue to be successful, they're going to keep doing what works. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can move onto something else. You're not going to change anyone's mind or have any effect on the way these movies are made with your complaints and activist mentality. So just do the simple thing and find something else to watch. You'll save yourself a lot of unnecessary frustration. Thats why they will continue to be terrible and making money doesn't make them good. I m gonna continue to call them out til they learn to honor the material Critical consensus and public opinion largely disagrees with you.
What do you think calling them out will do exactly? You're part of a small minority with an inconsequential opinion on a message board. You're not going to change anything and they're certainly not going to learn anything from your mindless complaints.
They do honor and respect the spirit of the source material, more faithfully than many other comic book movies. They just don't use it as a strict blueprint and they pull from several different iterations from over the decades, not just a single run that you may (or may not) be more familiar with.
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Post by thenewnexus on Jul 12, 2019 17:54:14 GMT
Thats why they will continue to be terrible and making money doesn't make them good. I m gonna continue to call them out til they learn to honor the material Critical consensus and public opinion largely disagrees with you.
What do you think calling them out will do exactly? You're part of a small minority with an inconsequential opinion on a message board. You're not going to change anything and they're certainly not going to learn anything from your mindless complaints.
They do honor and respect the spirit of the source material, more faithfully than many other comic book movies. They just don't use it as a strict blueprint and they pull from several different iterations from over the decades, not just a single run that you may (or may not) be more familiar with.
Lots of critics are biased i think that's clear with mcu movies. Calling them out will inform people i have that obligation. I don't expect blueprints of the books but they aren't honoring the spirt of the books maybe except Winter Soldier. All the forced jokes and humor is proof they aren't honoring anything
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 18:08:35 GMT
Critical consensus and public opinion largely disagrees with you.
What do you think calling them out will do exactly? You're part of a small minority with an inconsequential opinion on a message board. You're not going to change anything and they're certainly not going to learn anything from your mindless complaints.
They do honor and respect the spirit of the source material, more faithfully than many other comic book movies. They just don't use it as a strict blueprint and they pull from several different iterations from over the decades, not just a single run that you may (or may not) be more familiar with.
Lots of critics are biased i think that's clear with mcu movies. Calling them out will inform people i have that obligation. I don't expect blueprints of the books but they aren't honoring the spirt of the books maybe except Winter Soldier. All the forced jokes and humor is proof they aren't honoring anything That's a fair criticism. I don't know shit about the books so the movies will never disappoint me on that level. If you're all about the comics and the movies don't live up to the source material, I get that. The movies are my source material though.
I don't know about critics though since I actively try and avoid them.
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Post by bud47 on Jul 12, 2019 18:10:57 GMT
Critical consensus and public opinion largely disagrees with you.
What do you think calling them out will do exactly? You're part of a small minority with an inconsequential opinion on a message board. You're not going to change anything and they're certainly not going to learn anything from your mindless complaints.
They do honor and respect the spirit of the source material, more faithfully than many other comic book movies. They just don't use it as a strict blueprint and they pull from several different iterations from over the decades, not just a single run that you may (or may not) be more familiar with.
Lots of critics are biased i think that's clear with mcu movies. Calling them out will inform people i have that obligation. I don't expect blueprints of the books but they aren't honoring the spirt of the books maybe except Winter Soldier. All the forced jokes and humor is proof they aren't honoring anything You're just as biased against them, so what's the difference? You're not informing anyone of anything other than that you're just another troll that we can lump in with the others. No one cares what you think.
So it all comes down to the humor again. Other than that, how are they not honoring the spirit of the source material? Humor is a part of the package with these films. It's been there since the beginning and it's shown to be one of many keys to their continued success. If it ain't broke, they ain't going to fix it. Strange that you don't seem to have a problem with it in non-MCU comic book films (Aquaman, Shazam, Venom, etc.).
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Post by sostie on Jul 12, 2019 18:51:56 GMT
Nick Fury being trolled by cat(its a cat spare me the alien bs total cop out) Yep. Prawn and Shrimp are the same thing..... OWNED!!!!
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Post by dazz on Jul 12, 2019 19:59:06 GMT
Critical consensus and public opinion largely disagrees with you.
What do you think calling them out will do exactly? You're part of a small minority with an inconsequential opinion on a message board. You're not going to change anything and they're certainly not going to learn anything from your mindless complaints.
They do honor and respect the spirit of the source material, more faithfully than many other comic book movies. They just don't use it as a strict blueprint and they pull from several different iterations from over the decades, not just a single run that you may (or may not) be more familiar with.
Lots of critics are biased i think that's clear with mcu movies. Calling them out will inform people i have that obligation. I don't expect blueprints of the books but they aren't honoring the spirt of the books maybe except Winter Soldier. All the forced jokes and humor is proof they aren't honoring anything If informing people is your intention then you do a very poor job at it, you simple repeat the same complaints, too jokey, not "mature" enough, where's Kat Dennings, or you simply state this doesn't honour the comics, but without context, some random guy obsessed with Kat Dennings who cannot formulate a compelling argument wont inform anyone to anything, all you do is get the same likes from the same people who are already predisposed to hate on the MCU films, if you have read the comics and know so much you should articulate that and give examples of why the MCU adaptations fall short or do not match the comics, other people do it all the time and even if people don't agree with their perspective it can be respected, yours not so much as you just sound like a looney.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 12, 2019 21:20:42 GMT
Who says jokes don't honor the comics? The Marvel comics that I read growing up which were actually written by the man who created the characters, Stan Lee, were full of jokes. Spider-Man is a joke machine.
It's only in recent years that the industry has been taken over by grim-dark emo edge lords. And it is no coincidence that comic book sales have fallen through the floor at the same time.
Meanwhile the movies that maintain a sense of humor along with the action and the drama are more popular than ever.
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Post by damngumby on Jul 12, 2019 21:43:21 GMT
You're seriously going to go back to 'Ronan was defeated by dancing in Guardians' again? Even though you have been told time and time again that he wasn't? Jesus. There are YouTube vids and gifs of Ronin being beat by dancing So ... we've got, what, three MCU hating trolls on this board? And all three are dumber than dog shit? I'm beginning to see a pattern.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 12, 2019 21:49:13 GMT
Critical consensus and public opinion largely disagrees with you.
What do you think calling them out will do exactly? You're part of a small minority with an inconsequential opinion on a message board. You're not going to change anything and they're certainly not going to learn anything from your mindless complaints.
They do honor and respect the spirit of the source material, more faithfully than many other comic book movies. They just don't use it as a strict blueprint and they pull from several different iterations from over the decades, not just a single run that you may (or may not) be more familiar with.
Lots of critics are biased i think that's clear with mcu movies. Calling them out will inform people i have that obligation. I don't expect blueprints of the books but they aren't honoring the spirt of the books maybe except Winter Soldier. All the forced jokes and humor is proof they aren't honoring anything For what reasons are they biased? You keep saying they are biased but you do not give any examples. And how has that been working out for you? How often have you been asked, 'wait so if you hated it why did you see it?' Dude, you are spending time and money on movies you don't want to like in the first place(as you claim to anyway) who is the loser here? You, Disney has your money and attention. Plus, look at all the time you spend on this sub forum you are obsessed with the Marvel Cinematic Universe you say you hate a lot of it but here you are almost daily, see a doctor you have some really weird issues. How aren't the movies honoring the spirit of the books? 'Jokes' and 'humor' are not separate things, and which ones were forced and why?
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Post by thenewnexus on Jul 12, 2019 21:53:11 GMT
Lots of critics are biased i think that's clear with mcu movies. Calling them out will inform people i have that obligation. I don't expect blueprints of the books but they aren't honoring the spirt of the books maybe except Winter Soldier. All the forced jokes and humor is proof they aren't honoring anything You're just as biased against them, so what's the difference? You're not informing anyone of anything other than that you're just another troll that we can lump in with the others. No one cares what you think.
So it all comes down to the humor again. Other than that, how are they not honoring the spirit of the source material? Humor is a part of the package with these films. It's been there since the beginning and it's shown to be one of many keys to their continued success. If it ain't broke, they ain't going to fix it. Strange that you don't seem to have a problem with it in non-MCU comic book films (Aquaman, Shazam, Venom, etc.).
I m not bias if its the truth. Yeah I'm informing people by telling the truth about these movies. There is too much humor in the mcu and that doesn't honor the books and compared to the others you mentioned there is not as much humor.
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