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Post by WarrenPeace on Apr 11, 2017 18:56:43 GMT
Lesbian Gay Bisexual. Those three go together. Then the next one is: Transgender. But not every tranny is gay or lesbian. Like a gay man who becomes a woman and has sex with men. Then wouldn't he be a straight woman? Or a lesbian who becomes a man and still has sex with women. Now isn''t she a straight man? And why the Q for queer? Isn't that derogatory slang or isn't it outdated anyway? Who says queer anymore? Seems to me it should just be: LGB and let the trannies, of whom not all are gay, fend for themselves and drop the Q. Read more: IMDB2.freeforums.net/thread/17843/why-lgbtq-all#ixzz4dy7fY8lR |
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Post by scienceisgod on Apr 11, 2017 19:35:38 GMT
"Q" is actually illegal hate speech in many European countries and Canada.
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Post by MiketheMechanic on Apr 11, 2017 22:03:51 GMT
Lesbian Gay Bisexual. Those three go together. Then the next one is: Transgender. But not every tranny is gay or lesbian. Like a gay man who becomes a woman and has sex with men. Then wouldn't he be a straight woman? Or a lesbian who becomes a man and still has sex with women. Now isn''t she a straight man? And why the Q for queer? Isn't that derogatory slang or isn't it outdated anyway? Who says queer anymore? Seems to me it should just be: LGB and let the trannies, of whom not all are gay, fend for themselves and drop the Q. Read more: IMDB2.freeforums.net/thread/17843/why-lgbtq-all#ixzz4dy7fY8lRLGBTQ stand for those of us who identify as one of the following: lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer. All 'five' go together. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Apr 11, 2017 23:23:26 GMT
Lesbian Gay Bisexual. Those three go together. Then the next one is: Transgender. But not every tranny is gay or lesbian. Like a gay man who becomes a woman and has sex with men. Then wouldn't he be a straight woman? Or a lesbian who becomes a man and still has sex with women. Now isn''t she a straight man? And why the Q for queer? Isn't that derogatory slang or isn't it outdated anyway? Who says queer anymore? Seems to me it should just be: LGB and let the trannies, of whom not all are gay, fend for themselves and drop the Q. Read more: IMDB2.freeforums.net/thread/17843/why-lgbtq-all#ixzz4dy7fY8lRLGBTQ stand for those of us who identify as one of the following: lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer. All 'five' go together. Is this an automated post? |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Apr 12, 2017 2:26:43 GMT
LGBTQ stand for those of us who identify as one of the following: lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer. All 'five' go together. How do they go together? Transgender is not a sexuality and Queer is a derogatory term. LGB does encompasses homosexuality as a sexual choice of preference, so if anything, they do fit. I find it insulting to be lumped into a confounded alphabet soup of labels and tags that is only compartmentalizing things even further. Why not just include S for straight then, LGBS, and we can have the broad spectrum of what society represents as sexualities. The rest is all just crap. |
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Post by MiketheMechanic on Apr 12, 2017 2:40:19 GMT
LGBTQ stand for those of us who identify as one of the following: lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer. All 'five' go together. How do they go together? Transgender is not a sexuality and Queer is a derogatory term. LGB does encompasses homosexuality as a sexual choice of preference, so if anything, they do fit. I find it insulting to be lumped into a confounded alphabet soup of labels and tags that is only compartmentalizing things even further. Why not just include S for straight then, LGBS, and we can have the broad spectrum of what society represents as sexualities. The rest is all just crap. The internet is a great resource for education: LGBT, or GLBT, is an initialism that stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender. In use since the 1990s, the term is an adaptation of the initialism LGB, which was used to replace the term gay in reference to the LGBT community beginning in the mid-to-late 1980s. Activists believed that the term gay community did not accurately represent all those to whom it referred. The initialism has become mainstream as a self-designation; it has been adopted by the majority of sexuality and gender identity-based community centers and media in the United States, as well as some other English-speaking countries. The term is used also in some other countries, particularly those which languages use the initialism, such as Argentina, France, and Turkey. The initialism, LGBT, is intended to emphasize a diversity of sexuality and gender identity-based cultures. It may be used to refer to anyone who is non-heterosexual or non-cisgender, instead of exclusively to people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender. To recognize this inclusion, a popular variant adds the letter Q for those who identify as queer or are questioning their sexual identity; LGBTQ has been recorded since 1996. Those who add intersex people to LGBT groups or organizing use an extended initialism LGBTI. Some people combine the two acronyms and use the term LGBTIQ. Others use LGBT+ to encompass a spectrum of gender and sexuality. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Apr 12, 2017 3:41:58 GMT
How do they go together? Transgender is not a sexuality and Queer is a derogatory term. LGB does encompasses homosexuality as a sexual choice of preference, so if anything, they do fit. I find it insulting to be lumped into a confounded alphabet soup of labels and tags that is only compartmentalizing things even further. Why not just include S for straight then, LGBS, and we can have the broad spectrum of what society represents as sexualities. The rest is all just crap. The internet is a great resource for education: LGBT, or GLBT, is an initialism that stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender. In use since the 1990s, the term is an adaptation of the initialism LGB, which was used to replace the term gay in reference to the LGBT community beginning in the mid-to-late 1980s. Activists believed that the term gay community did not accurately represent all those to whom it referred. The initialism has become mainstream as a self-designation; it has been adopted by the majority of sexuality and gender identity-based community centers and media in the United States, as well as some other English-speaking countries. The term is used also in some other countries, particularly those which languages use the initialism, such as Argentina, France, and Turkey. The initialism, LGBT, is intended to emphasize a diversity of sexuality and gender identity-based cultures. It may be used to refer to anyone who is non-heterosexual or non-cisgender, instead of exclusively to people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender. To recognize this inclusion, a popular variant adds the letter Q for those who identify as queer or are questioning their sexual identity; LGBTQ has been recorded since 1996. Those who add intersex people to LGBT groups or organizing use an extended initialism LGBTI. Some people combine the two acronyms and use the term LGBTIQ. Others use LGBT+ to encompass a spectrum of gender and sexuality. It's a bot. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Apr 12, 2017 6:10:32 GMT
The internet is a great resource for education: LGBT, or GLBT, is an initialism that stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender. In use since the 1990s, the term is an adaptation of the initialism LGB, which was used to replace the term gay in reference to the LGBT community beginning in the mid-to-late 1980s. Activists believed that the term gay community did not accurately represent all those to whom it referred. The initialism has become mainstream as a self-designation; it has been adopted by the majority of sexuality and gender identity-based community centers and media in the United States, as well as some other English-speaking countries. The term is used also in some other countries, particularly those which languages use the initialism, such as Argentina, France, and Turkey. The initialism, LGBT, is intended to emphasize a diversity of sexuality and gender identity-based cultures. It may be used to refer to anyone who is non-heterosexual or non-cisgender, instead of exclusively to people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender. To recognize this inclusion, a popular variant adds the letter Q for those who identify as queer or are questioning their sexual identity; LGBTQ has been recorded since 1996. Those who add intersex people to LGBT groups or organizing use an extended initialism LGBTI. Some people combine the two acronyms and use the term LGBTIQ. Others use LGBT+ to encompass a spectrum of gender and sexuality. How pretentious, rhetorical and abstract of you. It's gays like you that give homosexuality a bad name. |
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Post by The Lost One on Apr 12, 2017 11:47:30 GMT
As regards the T, a lot of T people are homosexual or bisexual (ie transwomen attracted to women and transmen attracted to men). With those that aren't, they are still often labelled as gay by others and receive the same discrimination that gay people often get - it's not unusual for people to call trans people "super gay", or "gays in denial" or "gay people trying to trick straight people". While these labels are inaccurate, that does not stop the homophobic abuse trans people receive. This is the common cause between them. It's not that T is an expression of sexual identity, it's that T people often get abuse from others similar to that which LGB people receive.
Q is generally for people who don't fit nicely into any of the other brackets but are still subject to homophobic abuse due to not fitting gender and sexual norms.
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Post by MiketheMechanic on Apr 12, 2017 13:49:15 GMT
The internet is a great resource for education: LGBT, or GLBT, is an initialism that stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender. In use since the 1990s, the term is an adaptation of the initialism LGB, which was used to replace the term gay in reference to the LGBT community beginning in the mid-to-late 1980s. Activists believed that the term gay community did not accurately represent all those to whom it referred. The initialism has become mainstream as a self-designation; it has been adopted by the majority of sexuality and gender identity-based community centers and media in the United States, as well as some other English-speaking countries. The term is used also in some other countries, particularly those which languages use the initialism, such as Argentina, France, and Turkey. The initialism, LGBT, is intended to emphasize a diversity of sexuality and gender identity-based cultures. It may be used to refer to anyone who is non-heterosexual or non-cisgender, instead of exclusively to people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender. To recognize this inclusion, a popular variant adds the letter Q for those who identify as queer or are questioning their sexual identity; LGBTQ has been recorded since 1996. Those who add intersex people to LGBT groups or organizing use an extended initialism LGBTI. Some people combine the two acronyms and use the term LGBTIQ. Others use LGBT+ to encompass a spectrum of gender and sexuality. How pretentious, rhetorical and abstract of you. It's gays like you that give homosexuality a bad name. I didn't write the article but it's a great resource for education. There is nothing pretentious about it, read it again. Facts! |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Apr 12, 2017 13:52:08 GMT
How pretentious, rhetorical and abstract of you. It's gays like you that give homosexuality a bad name. I didn't write the article but it's a great resource for education. There is nothing pretentious about it, read it again. Facts! Yes, I know you didn't write the article. It's the notion that you are gullible enough to buy into it and that doesn't surprise me. Fact! |
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Post by MiketheMechanic on Apr 12, 2017 13:57:40 GMT
I didn't write the article but it's a great resource for education. There is nothing pretentious about it, read it again. Facts! Yes, I know you didn't write the article. It's the notion that you are gullible enough to buy into it and that doesn't surprise me. Fact! Yes, me and a billion people worldwide are 'gullible' enough to buy into it, lol. More facts: Defining LGBTQ : LGBTQ is an acronym that stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer, and is used to designate a community of people whose sexual or gender identities can create shared political and social concerns. The LGBTQ acronym does not encompass everybody and different organisations may use fewer or more letters, for example, an ‘I’ to indicate Intersex* people. For the purpose of simplification the commonly accepted definitions of important terms and concepts have been given below. But first it’s important to introduce the concept of ‘self-definition’. Essentially, it is important that people preserve the right to self-define into any or none of the categories below. It is not for others to dictate how we define, or which box society can most comfortably place us into. Lesbian: A woman who is attracted to other women. Gay: A man who is attracted to other men. Bisexual: An individual who is attracted to both genders. Trans: An umbrella term that seeks to incorporate individuals whose gender identities do not match their biological sex, for example, somebody who is born male-bodied and identifies as a woman. The term ‘Trans’ includes those who are pre or post surgery and those who do not wish to undertake surgery to alter their sex. A distinction is posed between sex (male/female) which is a biological given at birth, and gender (man/woman) which is a sociological and psychological construction concerned with characteristics that are not biological. Queer: Individuals who experience fluidity in their experience of sexuality or gender and therefore do not identify strictly as LGB or T. The term ‘Queer’ can also include those who do not identify as either gender. Further Useful Definitions: Heterosexual: An individual who is attracted to members of the opposite gender. Cisgendered: When an individual’s gender identity matches their biological sex. *Intersex: An individual who is born with biological characteristics of both sexes. Intersex individuals are sometimes included within the LGBTQ acronym. Heteronormative: Heteronormativity is a set of lifestyle norms that imply that people fall into only one of two distinct and complementary genders with each having certain natural roles in life, and that heterosexuality is the only normal sexual orientation. Asexuality: An asexual person is someone who doesn’t experience sexual attraction towards others, regardless of gender. The general estimate is that 1% of the world’s population is asexual; this is based on a survey carried out by Kinsey and is not held to be conclusive. Some asexuals do experience arousal and may or may not masturbate. Some asexuals even have sex, often as a concession within a relationship. However, many asexuals are repulsed by the idea of engaging in sex personally, or feel that it wouldn’t be ‘natural’ for them. This does not necessarily mean that they hold negative opinions about sex in general, but it may influence their relationships. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Apr 12, 2017 14:01:15 GMT
As regards the T, a lot of T people are homosexual or bisexual (ie transwomen attracted to women and transmen attracted to men). With those that aren't, they are still often labelled as gay by others and receive the same discrimination that gay people often get - it's not unusual for people to call trans people "super gay", or "gays in denial" or "gay people trying to trick straight people". While these labels are inaccurate, that does not stop the homophobic abuse trans people receive. This is the common cause between them. It's not that T is an expression of sexual identity, it's that T people often get abuse from others similar to that which LGB people receive. Q is generally for people who don't fit nicely into any of the other brackets but are still subject to homophobic abuse due to not fitting gender and sexual norms. Bigotry aside, and many people suffer forms of bigotry and it doesn't have to be sexuality related, transgenders are not comfortable with the sex they are born with. Homosexuality is about appreciating, embracing and feeling comfortable with the gender one is familiar with. TG gives out mixed signals about homosexuality and others start to believe that gays are just wanting to be like females and dress up in drag and be campy. This is not representative of the entire homosexual population and if it is about bigotry then, then why aren't Muslims and blacks included in this then? Do gay Muslims and gay blacks have to then suffer a double whammy of bigotry and prejudice? The LGB community is about homosexuality and that is where it should stand and cut off. The rest of the confused sexual beings, can go and form their own community while they figure themselves out. I'm not interested. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Apr 12, 2017 14:02:21 GMT
Yes, I know you didn't write the article. It's the notion that you are gullible enough to buy into it and that doesn't surprise me. Fact! Yes, me and a billion people worldwide are 'gullible' enough to buy into it, lol. More facts: Defining LGBTQ : LGBTQ is an acronym that stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer, and is used to designate a community of people whose sexual or gender identities can create shared political and social concerns. The LGBTQ acronym does not encompass everybody and different organisations may use fewer or more letters, for example, an ‘I’ to indicate Intersex* people. For the purpose of simplification the commonly accepted definitions of important terms and concepts have been given below. But first it’s important to introduce the concept of ‘self-definition’. Essentially, it is important that people preserve the right to self-define into any or none of the categories below. It is not for others to dictate how we define, or which box society can most comfortably place us into. Lesbian: A woman who is attracted to other women. Gay: A man who is attracted to other men. Bisexual: An individual who is attracted to both genders. Trans: An umbrella term that seeks to incorporate individuals whose gender identities do not match their biological sex, for example, somebody who is born male-bodied and identifies as a woman. The term ‘Trans’ includes those who are pre or post surgery and those who do not wish to undertake surgery to alter their sex. A distinction is posed between sex (male/female) which is a biological given at birth, and gender (man/woman) which is a sociological and psychological construction concerned with characteristics that are not biological. Queer: Individuals who experience fluidity in their experience of sexuality or gender and therefore do not identify strictly as LGB or T. The term ‘Queer’ can also include those who do not identify as either gender. Further Useful Definitions: Heterosexual: An individual who is attracted to members of the opposite gender. Cisgendered: When an individual’s gender identity matches their biological sex. *Intersex: An individual who is born with biological characteristics of both sexes. Intersex individuals are sometimes included within the LGBTQ acronym. Heteronormative: Heteronormativity is a set of lifestyle norms that imply that people fall into only one of two distinct and complementary genders with each having certain natural roles in life, and that heterosexuality is the only normal sexual orientation. Asexuality: An asexual person is someone who doesn’t experience sexual attraction towards others, regardless of gender. The general estimate is that 1% of the world’s population is asexual; this is based on a survey carried out by Kinsey and is not held to be conclusive. Some asexuals do experience arousal and may or may not masturbate. Some asexuals even have sex, often as a concession within a relationship. However, many asexuals are repulsed by the idea of engaging in sex personally, or feel that it wouldn’t be ‘natural’ for them. This does not necessarily mean that they hold negative opinions about sex in general, but it may influence their relationships.   |
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Post by MiketheMechanic on Apr 12, 2017 14:12:58 GMT
Yes, me and a billion people worldwide are 'gullible' enough to buy into it, lol. More facts: Defining LGBTQ : LGBTQ is an acronym that stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer, and is used to designate a community of people whose sexual or gender identities can create shared political and social concerns. The LGBTQ acronym does not encompass everybody and different organisations may use fewer or more letters, for example, an ‘I’ to indicate Intersex* people. For the purpose of simplification the commonly accepted definitions of important terms and concepts have been given below. But first it’s important to introduce the concept of ‘self-definition’. Essentially, it is important that people preserve the right to self-define into any or none of the categories below. It is not for others to dictate how we define, or which box society can most comfortably place us into. Lesbian: A woman who is attracted to other women. Gay: A man who is attracted to other men. Bisexual: An individual who is attracted to both genders. Trans: An umbrella term that seeks to incorporate individuals whose gender identities do not match their biological sex, for example, somebody who is born male-bodied and identifies as a woman. The term ‘Trans’ includes those who are pre or post surgery and those who do not wish to undertake surgery to alter their sex. A distinction is posed between sex (male/female) which is a biological given at birth, and gender (man/woman) which is a sociological and psychological construction concerned with characteristics that are not biological. Queer: Individuals who experience fluidity in their experience of sexuality or gender and therefore do not identify strictly as LGB or T. The term ‘Queer’ can also include those who do not identify as either gender. Further Useful Definitions: Heterosexual: An individual who is attracted to members of the opposite gender. Cisgendered: When an individual’s gender identity matches their biological sex. *Intersex: An individual who is born with biological characteristics of both sexes. Intersex individuals are sometimes included within the LGBTQ acronym. Heteronormative: Heteronormativity is a set of lifestyle norms that imply that people fall into only one of two distinct and complementary genders with each having certain natural roles in life, and that heterosexuality is the only normal sexual orientation. Asexuality: An asexual person is someone who doesn’t experience sexual attraction towards others, regardless of gender. The general estimate is that 1% of the world’s population is asexual; this is based on a survey carried out by Kinsey and is not held to be conclusive. Some asexuals do experience arousal and may or may not masturbate. Some asexuals even have sex, often as a concession within a relationship. However, many asexuals are repulsed by the idea of engaging in sex personally, or feel that it wouldn’t be ‘natural’ for them. This does not necessarily mean that they hold negative opinions about sex in general, but it may influence their relationships. You're welcome, it's my pleasure to be helpful and informative.  |
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Post by The Lost One on Apr 12, 2017 14:21:24 GMT
if it is about bigotry then, then why aren't Muslims and blacks included in this then? It's about a specific kind of bigotry - homophobic. Homophobes lump transgender people in with the LGB people and so we should unite against them. And don't forget a lot of the hostility towards LGB people is they don't fit with the traditional gender norm of being attracted to the opposite sex. So in summary: -A lot of T people are LGB. -A lot of T people are lumped in with the LGB people by the traditional enemies of the LGB. -Both LGB and T people have that they do not stick to the expected gender norms in common. None of these are true of Muslims and blacks, but of course many LGBTQ movements support all persecuted minorities. And yeah there are differences between T people and LGB people. There are also differences between L, G and B people. Who cares? They're more effective at fighting prejudice that affects all of them if working together. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Apr 12, 2017 19:27:21 GMT
if it is about bigotry then, then why aren't Muslims and blacks included in this then? It's about a specific kind of bigotry - homophobic. Homophobes lump transgender people in with the LGB people and so we should unite against them. And don't forget a lot of the hostility towards LGB people is they don't fit with the traditional gender norm of being attracted to the opposite sex. So in summary: -A lot of T people are LGB. -A lot of T people are lumped in with the LGB people by the traditional enemies of the LGB. -Both LGB and T people have that they do not stick to the expected gender norms in common. None of these are true of Muslims and blacks, but of course many LGBTQ movements support all persecuted minorities. And yeah there are differences between T people and LGB people. There are also differences between L, G and B people. Who cares? They're more effective at fighting prejudice that affects all of them if working together. Just don't anyone mention bestiality because it ruins your whole theory. |
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Post by Nostalgias4Geeks🌈 on Apr 12, 2017 22:01:19 GMT
It's about a specific kind of bigotry - homophobic. Homophobes lump transgender people in with the LGB people and so we should unite against them. And don't forget a lot of the hostility towards LGB people is they don't fit with the traditional gender norm of being attracted to the opposite sex. So in summary: -A lot of T people are LGB. -A lot of T people are lumped in with the LGB people by the traditional enemies of the LGB. -Both LGB and T people have that they do not stick to the expected gender norms in common. None of these are true of Muslims and blacks, but of course many LGBTQ movements support all persecuted minorities. And yeah there are differences between T people and LGB people. There are also differences between L, G and B people. Who cares? They're more effective at fighting prejudice that affects all of them if working together. Just don't anyone mention bestiality because it ruins your whole theory. Why are you into bestiality?
Do you like it doggie style with doggies? |
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Post by The Lost One on Apr 12, 2017 22:03:33 GMT
Except bestiality harms animals. LGBTQ don't harm anyone.
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Post by scienceisgod on Apr 13, 2017 6:53:03 GMT
Except bestiality harms animals. LGBTQ don't harm anyone. And straight people eat food just like LGBTQ people, so it should be LGBTQS. Huh? |
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