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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 13, 2019 0:39:36 GMT
1. In Far From Home, Beck tells SHIELD that a fire monster is going to attack Prague, similar to the water monster that attacked Venice. So SHIELD wants Spider-Man to go to Prague to fight the fire monster. Why the fuck does SHIELD want Spider-Man to fight the fire monster? Spider-Man's webs were useless against the water monster. What makes SHIELD think Spider-Man's webs are going to be any more effective against a fire monster? Makes no sense at all.
2. When Peter refuses to go to Prague, SHIELD tricks Peter's class into going to Prague. What kind of government agency intentionally tricks civilians, most of whom are minors, into going to a place that they know is going to be attacked? Makes no sense at all.
3. 1 of the chaperones says "We've been upgraded. We're going to Prague!". No offense to people from the Czech Republic, but why the fuck would anyone consider a trip to Prague an upgrade over a trip to Paris. Why would anyone want to go to Prague instead of Paris for their summer vacation? Makes no sense at all.
4. When the class gets to Prague, there's a Masopust festival, which is what Mardi Gras is called in the Czech Republic. Mardi Gras is always in the Winter and marks the beginning of the fasting period before Easter. Why is there a Mardi Gras festival in the summer? Makes no sense at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 0:42:27 GMT
1. In Far From Home, Beck tells SHIELD that a fire monster is going to attack Prague, similar to the water monster that attacked Venice. So SHIELD wants Spider-Man to go to Prague to fight the fire monster. Why the fuck does SHIELD want Spider-Man to fight the fire monster? Spider-Man's webs were useless against the water monster. What makes SHIELD think Spider-Man's webs are going to be any more effective against a fire monster? Makes no sense at all.
2. When Peter refuses to go to Prague, SHIELD tricks Peter's class into going to Prague. What kind of government agency intentionally tricks civilians, most of whom are minors, into going to a place that they know is going to be attacked? Makes no sense at all.
3. 1 of the chaperones says "We've been upgraded. We're going to Prague!". No offense to people from the Czech Republic, but why the fuck would anyone consider a trip to Prague an upgrade over a trip to Paris. Why would anyone want to go to Prague instead of Paris for their summer vacation? Makes no sense at all.
4. When the class gets to Prague, there's a Masopust festival, which is what Mardi Gras is called in the Czech Republic. Mardi Gras is always in the Winter and marks the beginning of the fasting period before Easter. Why is there a Mardi Gras festival in the summer? Makes no sense at all. Oh well, can't please everyone I guess. No doubt Marvel will find that the hundreds of millions of dollars of profit will soften the blow of your disapproval, though. So there's that.
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Post by bud47 on Jul 13, 2019 0:46:19 GMT
Nice troll post. You've already brought this up before and it's been discussed. If you're looking for attention, come up with something new.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 13, 2019 0:49:54 GMT
Nice troll post. You've already brought this up before and it's been discussed. If you're looking for attention, come up with something new. It's not a troll post. And where did I ever bring up this " why the fuck would anyone consider a trip to Prague an upgrade over a trip to Paris. Why would anyone want to go to Prague instead of Paris for their summer vacation?" Post a link to the post where I brought this up before.
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Post by scabab on Jul 13, 2019 1:09:07 GMT
Spider-Man is able to assist in more ways than just firing webbing. Against the Water monster he was given the impression that he was helping by saving lives and also by luring the monster to another location. Webs aren't really useful against Sand monsters either but he did just fine using other means in Spider-Man 3. So that's not a plot hole.
You're second point isn't even a plot hole either so forget that one.
Third point, again that's...also not what a plot hole is... Someone thinking it's better to go to Prague than Paris isn't a plot hole in any way.
And for the last one, the event in Prague is called the Festival of Lights which apparently takes place in October. I don't when the movie was supposed to take place but even if it was Summer...this isn't a plot hole either.
A plot hole is defined as
"an inconsistency in the narrative or character development of a book, film, television programme"
A movie that's set in a different universe having a festival on a different month to when we have it in our real life world isn't an inconsistency within the narrative. It's trivia, a useless nitpick.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 13, 2019 2:24:27 GMT
Spider-Man is able to assist in more ways than just firing webbing. Against the Water monster he was given the impression that he was helping by saving lives and also by luring the monster to another location. Webs aren't really useful against Sand monsters either but he did just fine using other means in Spider-Man 3. So that's not a plot hole. You're second point isn't even a plot hole either so forget that one. Third point, again that's...also not what a plot hole is... Someone thinking it's better to go to Prague than Paris isn't a plot hole in any way. And for the last one, the event in Prague is called the Festival of Lights which apparently takes place in October. I don't when the movie was supposed to take place but even if it was Summer...this isn't a plot hole either. A plot hole is defined as "an inconsistency in the narrative or character development of a book, film, television programme" A movie that's set in a different universe having a festival on a different month to when we have it in our real life world isn't an inconsistency within the narrative. It's trivia, a useless nitpick. It’s not plot holes so much as horrible plotting and SHIELD gets more moronic and evil by the film. |
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 13, 2019 2:28:45 GMT
They should have sent the Asgardians, Dr Strange, War Machine, Falcon or even Wanda who has European citizenship before sending a high school kid 😂
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Post by damngumby on Jul 13, 2019 2:40:22 GMT
The OP sure does seem to get easily confused. This isn't the first MCU movie that has baffled him.
Apparently, a minimum intelligence level is required to appreciate MCU movies. That's not called a "plot hole".
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Post by raiderjedi on Jul 13, 2019 2:47:53 GMT
And yet the MCU movies, with all these "plot holes" and "bad writing", supposedly featuring characters that are not even good people let alone heroes, who are played by actors who in real life are not even good people repeatedly make over $1,000,000,000 and get overwhelmingly great reviews. They are universally acknowledged as the premier film franchise going. DC tried to copy them and failed SPECTACULARLY. The X-men series ended as a complete joke with a pathetic final film that did WORSE than 2015 Fantastic 4, which I would have never even thought possible. So I'm thinking that the problem is with you. There are only 2 possibilities: either you are a troll, or the stupidest most dense person on the planet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 3:03:51 GMT
Nice troll post. You've already brought this up before and it's been discussed. If you're looking for attention, come up with something new. It's not a troll post. And where did I ever bring up this " why the fuck would anyone consider a trip to Prague an upgrade over a trip to Paris. Why would anyone want to go to Prague instead of Paris for their summer vacation?" Post a link to the post where I brought this up before. I'd consider going to Prague better than going to Paris, or anywhere in France. I don't especially care for France.
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Post by merh on Jul 13, 2019 3:25:04 GMT
1. In Far From Home, Beck tells SHIELD that a fire monster is going to attack Prague, similar to the water monster that attacked Venice. So SHIELD wants Spider-Man to go to Prague to fight the fire monster. Why the fuck does SHIELD want Spider-Man to fight the fire monster? Spider-Man's webs were useless against the water monster. What makes SHIELD think Spider-Man's webs are going to be any more effective against a fire monster? Makes no sense at all.
2. When Peter refuses to go to Prague, SHIELD tricks Peter's class into going to Prague. What kind of government agency intentionally tricks civilians, most of whom are minors, into going to a place that they know is going to be attacked? Makes no sense at all.
Shield is on. Later Put a little effort into stuff you are trying to trash. Did you see the hotel in Italy? Easter is in April, dude. So there ate festivals in the summer.
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Post by poutinep on Jul 13, 2019 3:39:20 GMT
You haven't even seen the movie. Or Endgame, Or Captain Marvel, probably others.  |
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Post by merh on Jul 13, 2019 4:10:38 GMT
Ohmygosh! What the hell? Goodfrickenheavens! How many times they killing him this season? Come on AoS! It's been a rough year & you do this? 1. In Far From Home, Beck tells SHIELD that a fire monster is going to attack Prague, similar to the water monster that attacked Venice. So SHIELD wants Spider-Man to go to Prague to fight the fire monster. Why the fuck does SHIELD want Spider-Man to fight the fire monster? Spider-Man's webs were useless against the water monster. What makes SHIELD think Spider-Man's webs are going to be any more effective against a fire monster? Makes no sense at all. Do you NOT know ANYTHING about Spidey? Just put a big "duh" at the start of your post. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 13, 2019 4:44:23 GMT
For someone who really doesn't care for most things, if not all things, Marvel Studios related you sure do post A LOT about them, have you ever seen a doctor about this problem? Most people do not spend this amount of time on something they don't like.
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Post by merh on Jul 13, 2019 10:26:00 GMT
For someone who really doesn't care for most things, if not all things, Marvel Studios related you sure do post A LOT about them, have you ever seen a doctor about this problem? Most people do not spend this amount of time on something they don't like. I think he gets all his points off YouTube
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Post by scabab on Jul 13, 2019 11:38:56 GMT
It’s not plot holes so much as horrible plotting and SHIELD gets more moronic and evil by the film. SHIELD don't exist anymore. It'd be Nick Fury if anyone was to blame but then that's not full on true either considered the credits scene. It would also be in Nick Fury's character anyway because he was always meant to be the character who would do whatever it takes to get the job done which has lead to certain conflicts in the comics too.
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Post by dazz on Jul 13, 2019 13:21:10 GMT
For someone who really doesn't care for most things, if not all things, Marvel Studios related you sure do post A LOT about them, have you ever seen a doctor about this problem? Most people do not spend this amount of time on something they don't like. I think he gets all his points off YouTube Not just Youtube he seems to scour the net looking for negative reviews or comments about the MCU which he then just repeats ad nauseum for the rest of time, which is why he cant actually argue his points, because they aren't his own, so all he can do is copy and paste the exact same argument over and over again word for word even when specific elements of said argument are proven factually incorrect, if he formed this opinions on his own then he would be able to adjust his thinking to get around these issues to his complaints, but he didn't and so he cant.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 13, 2019 13:30:51 GMT
It’s not plot holes so much as horrible plotting and SHIELD gets more moronic and evil by the film. SHIELD don't exist anymore. It'd be Nick Fury if anyone was to blame but then that's not full on true either considered the credits scene. On the contrary, the end credits scene just shows that Fury is an even bigger moron with poor judgement. Fury basically turned over command of a covert agency with highly-advanced weapons to an stupid alien shapeshifter who's willing to put civilian lives (including many minors) at risk and then went off on vacation with no way of contacting him in an emergency.
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Post by dazz on Jul 13, 2019 13:36:36 GMT
1. In Far From Home, Beck tells SHIELD that a fire monster is going to attack Prague, similar to the water monster that attacked Venice. So SHIELD wants Spider-Man to go to Prague to fight the fire monster. Why the fuck does SHIELD want Spider-Man to fight the fire monster? Spider-Man's webs were useless against the water monster. What makes SHIELD think Spider-Man's webs are going to be any more effective against a fire monster? Makes no sense at all.
2. When Peter refuses to go to Prague, SHIELD tricks Peter's class into going to Prague. What kind of government agency intentionally tricks civilians, most of whom are minors, into going to a place that they know is going to be attacked? Makes no sense at all.
3. 1 of the chaperones says "We've been upgraded. We're going to Prague!". No offense to people from the Czech Republic, but why the fuck would anyone consider a trip to Prague an upgrade over a trip to Paris. Why would anyone want to go to Prague instead of Paris for their summer vacation? Makes no sense at all.
4. When the class gets to Prague, there's a Masopust festival, which is what Mardi Gras is called in the Czech Republic. Mardi Gras is always in the Winter and marks the beginning of the fasting period before Easter. Why is there a Mardi Gras festival in the summer? Makes no sense at all.
1a: Fire and Water are not the same thing, plastic can hold water, fire melts plastic, water washes away mud, fire simply dries it out, and Spidey had the Iron Spider suit as well as his normal suit and Peter created his web fluid himself, what makes you think all he would have is one type of webbing when Spidey has also historically been able to create different batches of fluid to face his various foes, some of whom have been elemental types or use elemental attacks.
1b: Spidey is still a meta human, he has enhanced speed, agility, strength and durability, more so than anyone else besides Thor, Danvers or Hulk, and he's the only one not off world or injured as far as we know, so he'd be an extreme asset even without his gadgets due to his baseline powers.
2: This isn't Shield, in the cinematic side of the MCU Shield is dead, that is also not Fury, it's Talos as you have been told multiple times in other threads I am sure, Talos as a Skrull only has surface level access to Fury's mind at the time he took his form, on the surface Fury is do what it takes, his exact moral code is a deeper issue one Talos cannot simply know, when Talos assumed Fury's form would also limit his knowledge or ability to talk to the other heroes, many probably could have seen through the disguise, Talos is doing the job Fury asked, as best he can which doesn't mean he's going to do it right.
3: This isn't a plothole it's your opinion, maybe to someone else that is an upgrade, also depending on where they were staying could be a facot, in Paris they could have been booked into the equivalent of a roach motel, but in Prague they were in a Hilton, who knows.
4: Do they state that's what it is or is this just you assigning a specific event to a generic festival which could be anything else, someone else already pointed out it could be a festival that takes place in the summer so are you just making this up?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 13, 2019 13:50:32 GMT
he's the only one not off world or injured as far as we know Isn't Falcon supposed to be the new Captain America? So the new Captain America was off-world? What was he doing off-world? And where the fuck is the original Captain America, the guy who couldn't get into the Army because he was too lazy to exercise and train like the other enlistees but was given a super-PED by the US government to become a super-soldier and protect American lives? He ran off to past just to bang a woman, after the US government spent all that money to give him super-powers so he could protect American lives? that is also not Fury, it's Talos as you have been told multiple times in other threads I am sure, Talos as a Skrull only has surface level access to Fury's mind at the time he took his form, on the surface Fury is do what it takes, his exact moral code is a deeper issue one Talos cannot simply know, when Talos assumed Fury's form would also limit his knowledge or ability to talk to the other heroes, many probably could have seen through the disguise, Talos is doing the job Fury asked, as best he can which doesn't mean he's going to do it right. So Fury not only was stupid enough to turn over command of a covert agency with highly-advanced weapons to a stupid alien shapeshifter who's willing to risk civilian lives (including many minors) but also didn't even bother to tell this stupid alien shapeshifter:"RULE #1: Don't put civilian lives in danger!"?
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