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Post by hobowar on Aug 5, 2019 12:31:31 GMT
Another pretentious video I thought some might enjoy.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 5, 2019 16:24:44 GMT
I still think making Thor into a clown (because somebody had to be the comic relief) to be lazy writing. They ruined his arc from the previous two films for a few cheap laughs. Endgame is still a great film but as time goes by, this will probably always be my biggest gripe.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 5, 2019 18:14:23 GMT
I still think making Thor into a clown (because somebody had to be the comic relief) to be lazy writing. They ruined his arc from the previous two films for a few cheap laughs. Endgame is still a great film but as time goes by, this will probably always be my biggest gripe. That, and completely wasting Hulk. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 20:11:35 GMT
I still think making Thor into a clown (because somebody had to be the comic relief) to be lazy writing. They ruined his arc from the previous two films for a few cheap laughs. Endgame is still a great film but as time goes by, this will probably always be my biggest gripe. That, and completely wasting Hulk. Some of us (won't say who) weren't finished looking the best version of gladiator king Thor with the short hair and the armor and maturity. Personally, I didn't find the laughs cheap, but I still way prefer good-looking kick-ass Thor.
They took Hulk's best feature too, his roar. For all intents and purposes, Thanos killed him because that version of Hulk never emerged again.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 5, 2019 20:16:40 GMT
That, and completely wasting Hulk. Some of us (won't say who) weren't finished looking the best version of gladiator king Thor with the short hair and the armor and maturity. Personally, I didn't find the laughs cheap, but I still way prefer good-looking kick-ass Thor.
They took Hulk's best feature too, his roar. For all intents and purposes, Thanos killed him because that version of Hulk never emerged again.
Yeah, we only got 1 and a half movies of a fully realized Thundergod Thor. Actually I'd say it was just Infinity War and a few minutes from Ragnarok. We definitely needed to see more of him before they went to Fat Thor. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 5, 2019 21:49:59 GMT
Thanos is basically Malekith with slightly better dialogue. Also my God were the power levels inconsistent in this movie.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 6, 2019 2:15:07 GMT
Thanos is basically Malekith with slightly better dialogue. Also my God were the power levels inconsistent in this movie. Don't know about Thanos being similar to Malekith but the power levels were all over the place. The inconsistency was even worse than DCEU-level inconsistency. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 7, 2019 15:28:06 GMT
I still think making Thor into a clown (because somebody had to be the comic relief) to be lazy writing. They ruined his arc from the previous two films for a few cheap laughs. Endgame is still a great film but as time goes by, this will probably always be my biggest gripe. Same. They took the nuance from Infinity War and turned it into a gag. Thor's scenes should've been the most somber. Out of all the Avengers, he's clearly the one who's taken this defeat the hardest. It had been such a great arc. Learning to be worthy, then learning to be king, then learning to accept defeat but still fight on. It didn't need him being a fat, slobbering mess.
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Post by bud47 on Aug 7, 2019 21:10:01 GMT
I still think making Thor into a clown (because somebody had to be the comic relief) to be lazy writing. They ruined his arc from the previous two films for a few cheap laughs. Endgame is still a great film but as time goes by, this will probably always be my biggest gripe. Same. They took the nuance from Infinity War and turned it into a gag. Thor's scenes should've been the most somber. Out of all the Avengers, he's clearly the one who's taken this defeat the hardest. It had been such a great arc. Learning to be worthy, then learning to be king, then learning to accept defeat but still fight on. It didn't need him being a fat, slobbering mess. That argument would make more sense if 5 years hadn't passed. Somber Thor was present at the beginning of the film, which occurs shortly after the events of Infinity War. Can't expect him to stay like that over that long of a period of time. They obviously took their cues from Ragnarok and gave in to keep Hemsworth interested in the role by making him more humorous and depressing and using the opportunity to take the character in a new direction. It's not what I would have preferred, but at least we got bad-ass Thor (with only a slightly bulging belly) at the end of the film.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 7, 2019 22:07:59 GMT
Same. They took the nuance from Infinity War and turned it into a gag. Thor's scenes should've been the most somber. Out of all the Avengers, he's clearly the one who's taken this defeat the hardest. It had been such a great arc. Learning to be worthy, then learning to be king, then learning to accept defeat but still fight on. It didn't need him being a fat, slobbering mess. That argument would make more sense if 5 years hadn't passed. Somber Thor was present at the beginning of the film, which occurs shortly after the events of Infinity War. Can't expect him to stay like that over that long of a period of time. They obviously took their cues from Ragnarok and gave in to keep Hemsworth interested in the role by making him more humorous and depressing and using the opportunity to take the character in a new direction. It's not what I would have preferred, but at least we got bad-ass Thor (with only a slightly bulging belly) at the end of the film. Yet even after five years, Nat is still somber. Steve is still somber. Nebula too. So there'd've been nothing wrong with Thor still being in that frame of mind. Especially since alcohol is a depressant. Plus, I would imagine a god of thunder being drunk would be terrifying thing, not a joke.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 8, 2019 16:42:51 GMT
Same. They took the nuance from Infinity War and turned it into a gag. Thor's scenes should've been the most somber. Out of all the Avengers, he's clearly the one who's taken this defeat the hardest. It had been such a great arc. Learning to be worthy, then learning to be king, then learning to accept defeat but still fight on. It didn't need him being a fat, slobbering mess. That argument would make more sense if 5 years hadn't passed. Somber Thor was present at the beginning of the film, which occurs shortly after the events of Infinity War. Can't expect him to stay like that over that long of a period of time. They obviously took their cues from Ragnarok and gave in to keep Hemsworth interested in the role by making him more humorous and depressing and using the opportunity to take the character in a new direction. It's not what I would have preferred, but at least we got bad-ass Thor (with only a slightly bulging belly) at the end of the film. We did? Thanos handed him his ass. Cap gave Thanos a better fight than Thor.
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Post by bud47 on Aug 8, 2019 17:25:47 GMT
That argument would make more sense if 5 years hadn't passed. Somber Thor was present at the beginning of the film, which occurs shortly after the events of Infinity War. Can't expect him to stay like that over that long of a period of time. They obviously took their cues from Ragnarok and gave in to keep Hemsworth interested in the role by making him more humorous and depressing and using the opportunity to take the character in a new direction. It's not what I would have preferred, but at least we got bad-ass Thor (with only a slightly bulging belly) at the end of the film.We did? Thanos handed him his ass. Cap gave Thanos a better fight than Thor. That's true to an extent. Thor always seems to get nerf'd in the Avengers films. But at least his behavior and warrior attitude during the final battle was more in line with how we would expect as opposed to his bro-Thor Lebowski performance in the rest of the film. According to the directors at a recent Q&A though, they consider him at his most powerful at the end of Endgame. Though I think more attention and hero moments were given to Iron Man and Cap on purpose seeing as this was their last film.
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Post by bud47 on Aug 8, 2019 17:33:40 GMT
That argument would make more sense if 5 years hadn't passed. Somber Thor was present at the beginning of the film, which occurs shortly after the events of Infinity War. Can't expect him to stay like that over that long of a period of time. They obviously took their cues from Ragnarok and gave in to keep Hemsworth interested in the role by making him more humorous and depressing and using the opportunity to take the character in a new direction. It's not what I would have preferred, but at least we got bad-ass Thor (with only a slightly bulging belly) at the end of the film. Yet even after five years, Nat is still somber. Steve is still somber. Nebula too. So there'd've been nothing wrong with Thor still being in that frame of mind. Especially since alcohol is a depressant. Plus, I would imagine a god of thunder being drunk would be terrifying thing, not a joke. I'm not happy with how he was portrayed either. But like I said, I think they did this to make the character more interesting and to keep Hemsworth satisfied, who was growing weary of playing the character.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 8, 2019 17:55:30 GMT
We did? Thanos handed him his ass. Cap gave Thanos a better fight than Thor. That's true to an extent. Thor always seems to get nerf'd in the Avengers films. But at least his behavior and warrior attitude during the final battle was more in line with how we would expect as opposed to his bro-Thor Lebowski performance in the rest of the film. According to the directors at a recent Q&A though, they consider him at his most powerful at the end of Endgame. Though I think more attention and hero moments were given to Iron Man and Cap on purpose seeing as this was their last film. That's nuts. I don't think he even lands a punch against Thanos, even wielding both weapons! In IW he demolishes the battlefield and overpowers the gauntlet with all six stones. He would've killed Thanos with a better aimed throw.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 8, 2019 22:11:38 GMT
We did? Thanos handed him his ass. Cap gave Thanos a better fight than Thor. That's true to an extent. Thor always seems to get nerf'd in the Avengers films. But at least his behavior and warrior attitude during the final battle was more in line with how we would expect as opposed to his bro-Thor Lebowski performance in the rest of the film. According to the directors at a recent Q&A though, they consider him at his most powerful at the end of Endgame. Though I think more attention and hero moments were given to Iron Man and Cap on purpose seeing as this was their last film. Meh, Thor sat there with his hands down and allowed Thanos to lay into him without him even trying to cover up. Nothing badass about Thor in that final fight. |
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