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Post by hi224 on Aug 10, 2019 6:08:00 GMT
yay or nay?.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 10, 2019 6:20:44 GMT
Yay. Good movie, realistic in some ways. For instance, when the rocket was fired at the Mi-24 it blew the door gunner out but the helicopter kept flying. If Sylvester Stallone or Chuck Norris had done that the helicopter would have exploded into an immense fireball.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 10, 2019 6:27:57 GMT
Yay!
Despite its politics, the scenario is well represented and the film boasts some excellent adventure action violence. It was at least made with conviction, but that isn't surprising, because Milius was at the helm.
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Post by ck100 on Aug 10, 2019 7:31:31 GMT
Wasn't there a remake a few years ago?
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Aug 10, 2019 7:38:40 GMT
Havent seen it since I was a kid. It really depressed me.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 10, 2019 8:06:06 GMT
Wasn't there a remake a few years ago? Yes. There's always a remake (with CGI galore). With that said, "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" was actually a pretty good remake of "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes."
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 10, 2019 10:16:20 GMT
Havent seen it since I was a kid. It really depressed me. The film is overall pretty humorless and takes its scenario very seriously. Arbitrary killings and a pro-violence stance, somewhat heavy for a big budget mainstream film with teens as the main protagonists, seeing all that they know and love being destroyed around them. Survival of the fittest against staggering odds and while a tad gung ho in representation, the "what if" scenario is well played out on a broad canvas. The real military hardware, instead of cgi overkill that we get today, really helps with the gritty feel of the film.
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Post by wmcclain on Aug 10, 2019 11:28:41 GMT
Red Dawn (1984), written and directed by John Milius. When communist forces invade the western US, high school kids take to the mountains and fight a guerilla resistance. It's very heroic for a while, but war wears everyone down in the end. I hadn't seen this since the theater. Some in the audience took it pretty seriously but we were sniggering in my row. For years afterward we would claw the air and snarl " Wolverines!" In retrospect I have a more sober evaluation. Over the last hundred years many countries have been invaded and young people do take to the hills and their hit-and-run wars are bloody and vicious. If the US setting now seems ridiculous: during the Cold War it was less so, with tens of thousands of nukes ready to go and the Soviets having considerable success in both hemispheres. How well does it work as film entertainment? What comes out of John Milius' head is a strange combination of super-patriotic bluster and moments of "hey, that was actually kind of interesting..." He's doing one type of story with the fantasy Robin Hood-style last minute rescue of civilians about to be executed, but later redeems it when the heroics turn sour and our young people slump into despair. In the end I liked it more than I expected, without claiming it's an actual good film. I didn't notice at the time, but in the first scene, high school teacher Frank McRae summarizes the rest of the movie: the Mongols hunt and slaughter all the animals until one is left, which goes free. Also: the small town theater now has free showings of Alexander Nevsky. Ouch, that hurt. I think Milius is at his best when he is less serious, as with Conan the Barbarian (1982) and even The Wind and the Lion (1975). Apart from the many young actors near the beginning of their careers, a good selection of old timers adds weight to the story: Ben Johnson, Harry Dean Stanton, William Smith, Powers Boothe. Smith taught Russian at UCLA, so I suspect his accent is a good one. Boothe provides a good counterbalance, the professional soldier trying to temper the guerrilla fighters. Basil Poledouris score. Available on Blu-ray. 
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Aug 10, 2019 12:32:36 GMT
Its a good movie
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Post by politicidal on Aug 10, 2019 12:40:47 GMT
Wasn't there a remake a few years ago? Yes it sucked.
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Post by movielover on Aug 10, 2019 14:26:12 GMT
Yay! I liked it a lot.
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Post by petrolino on Aug 10, 2019 15:51:08 GMT
Great movie. Very entertaining.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Aug 10, 2019 16:55:10 GMT
yay
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Post by vegalyra on Aug 10, 2019 21:34:08 GMT
Definitely one of my favorites growing up. I don't know if anyone played it in the 80s, but there was a boardgames called Fortress America that was about a massive assault on the USA by Soviet, Latin American, and Chinese forces. Every time I watched Red Dawn I'd talk my brother into playing that game. It's even got a nifty pic of Saddam on the right side... Some version edited this and put a beard and sunglasses on him. I'm sure the game was either influenced by Red Dawn or just was coincidence that it came out around the same time. 
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 10, 2019 21:37:15 GMT
Saw it at a drive-in but remember dick all about it. I watched it one time on tv and still cant remember it.
Invasion USA I do remember.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 10, 2019 23:14:43 GMT
Huge YAY! Great movie with a great cast and excellent action. Gritty and more realistic than a lot of other political message movies. One of the best cold war movies.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Aug 13, 2019 16:37:13 GMT
You should turn this into a Poll.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 13, 2019 23:43:08 GMT
You should turn this into a Poll. maybeh.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 13, 2019 23:45:30 GMT
Nay
It's entertaining enough, but the story is too ridiculous for a movie that takes itself so seriously.
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Post by maxwellperfect on Aug 14, 2019 1:51:37 GMT
I've only seen the dumb remake.
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