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Post by SportsFan19 on Aug 16, 2019 0:44:38 GMT
The Jays are in a rebuild mode as I can assure you they aren't tanking games. I think a lot of people see those as the same thing.
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Post by northern on Aug 16, 2019 0:49:59 GMT
The Jays are in a rebuild mode as I can assure you they aren't tanking games. I think a lot of people see those as the same thing. I don't follow. Unless you're the Yankees, Dodgers or Boston who can buy whomever they want everybody rebuilds. |
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Aug 16, 2019 1:48:23 GMT
If there's one American sport that should have promotion/ relegation, it's baseball. If a billionaire from Carolina wants to an MLB team in Charlotte he should becable to either start an A team or bankroll an existing AA or AAA team. I guranatee you sone of these Major League teams would suddenly become a lot more consistent if they were worried about playing AAA ball the following year.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Aug 16, 2019 11:25:59 GMT
I think a lot of people see those as the same thing. I don't follow. Unless you're the Yankees, Dodgers or Boston who can buy whomever they want everybody rebuilds. Exactly, and some people think every rebuilding is tanking.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 16, 2019 12:04:41 GMT
I think a lot of people see those as the same thing. I don't follow. Unless you're the Yankees, Dodgers or Boston who can buy whomever they want everybody rebuilds. Every team can buy whomever they want, most owners are just cheap shits who don't care about their fans or have any clue what they're doing.
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Post by northern on Aug 16, 2019 16:38:51 GMT
I don't follow. Unless you're the Yankees, Dodgers or Boston who can buy whomever they want everybody rebuilds. Every team can buy whomever they want, most owners are just cheap shits who don't care about their fans or have any clue what they're doing. That's not true as small market teams have to be crafty to compete and build from within their farm system which may take years. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 16, 2019 16:46:25 GMT
Every team can buy whomever they want, most owners are just cheap shits who don't care about their fans or have any clue what they're doing. That's not true as small market teams have to be crafty to compete and build from within their farm system which may take years. Every team is owned by a billionaire who should have the capability of at least hiring competent front office people who can put together a contender. Once you start winning (and not even titles, just become a contender), the fans will start showing up in droves. All that added revenue should be put back into the team and the wheel keeps on turning. Small market teams like Kansas City have no excuse to win a title and immediately fall off a cliff while crying poor.
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Post by northern on Aug 16, 2019 16:52:37 GMT
That's not true as small market teams have to be crafty to compete and build from within their farm system which may take years. Every team is owned by a billionaire who should have the capability of at least hiring competent front office people who can put together a contender. Once you start winning (and not even titles, just become a contender), the fans will start showing up in droves. All that added revenue should be put back into the team and the wheel keeps on turning. Small market teams like Kansas City have no excuse to win a title and immediately fall off a cliff while crying poor. Winning takes time though as it just doesn't happen overnight. The problem with the Kansas City scenario is that they win a title one year then their best players take free agency and leave so what can you do. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 16, 2019 17:10:40 GMT
Every team is owned by a billionaire who should have the capability of at least hiring competent front office people who can put together a contender. Once you start winning (and not even titles, just become a contender), the fans will start showing up in droves. All that added revenue should be put back into the team and the wheel keeps on turning. Small market teams like Kansas City have no excuse to win a title and immediately fall off a cliff while crying poor. Winning takes time though as it just doesn't happen overnight. The problem with the Kansas City scenario is that they win a title one year then their best players take free agency and leave so what can you do. Pay them. This is the point I'm making. Pay more than the other teams. You can afford to do it with revenue sharing and the fact that you just won a title so the fans will fill the ballpark every night. It's not like Boston is some party town that MLB players can't wait to come to. Offer players more money and they'll play for you.
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Post by northern on Aug 16, 2019 17:20:18 GMT
Winning takes time though as it just doesn't happen overnight. The problem with the Kansas City scenario is that they win a title one year then their best players take free agency and leave so what can you do. Pay them. This is the point I'm making. Pay more than the other teams. You can afford to do it with revenue sharing and the fact that you just won a title so the fans will fill the ballpark every night. It's not like Boston is some party town that MLB players can't wait to come to. Offer players more money and they'll play for you. You can only offer big contracts to so many players if you're a small market team as the rest will bolt so you rebuild from within which takes time. |
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Post by klawrencio79 on Aug 16, 2019 17:22:57 GMT
Winning takes time though as it just doesn't happen overnight. The problem with the Kansas City scenario is that they win a title one year then their best players take free agency and leave so what can you do. Pay them. This is the point I'm making. Pay more than the other teams. You can afford to do it with revenue sharing and the fact that you just won a title so the fans will fill the ballpark every night. It's not like Boston is some party town that MLB players can't wait to come to. Offer players more money and they'll play for you. Plus, in spite of what the Royals claimed following the 2016 season, their ascertainable gate revenue + what they get from MLB's revenue sharing + the moneys we know they got from their regional TV deal suggests they had a net income of $130m+ after that season, after taking into account player salaries and estimated operational costs, which don't vary year over year the way other industries that rely on manufactured goods do. So them crying poverty is absolute and (mostly) verifiable bullshit. They were just cheap. Every team needs to build through the minors nowadays. This isn't the 90s when the Yankees could just trade their ugly christmas sweater collection for David Justice. Now if you're on a downturn, you trade your vets from young players, and you either develop them for roster spots or as trade pieces themselves. The whole "small market" thing is not as pronounced as it was in years past, which isn't to say it doesn't exist; it's just not as prevalent as it was in the 90s.
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