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Post by phludowin on Aug 24, 2019 6:40:20 GMT
then The first statement means that they would be lying in the second statement. Not if the bystanders say nothing at all. Not saying anything means: Not lying.
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Post by goz on Aug 24, 2019 7:16:52 GMT
If they 'know' and say nothing, they are concealing evidence of a crime.
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Post by phludowin on Aug 24, 2019 7:19:59 GMT
If they 'know' and say nothing, they are concealing evidence of a crime. "Not uncovering" is not the same as "concealing".
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Post by goz on Aug 24, 2019 9:13:48 GMT
If they 'know' and say nothing, they are concealing evidence of a crime. "Not uncovering" is not the same as "concealing". if you 'know' that something is a crime, by not revealing it, you are concealing it. Imagine that your brother got drunk and killed his girlfriend. You were a witness. If you don't uncover this crime, you are concealing it if you don't call the police and will become an 'accessory after the fact' which in most countries is, itself a crime.
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Post by phludowin on Aug 24, 2019 9:40:45 GMT
if you 'know' that something is a crime, by not revealing it, you are concealing it. Imagine that your brother got drunk and killed his girlfriend. You were a witness. If you don't uncover this crime, you are concealing it if you don't call the police and will become an 'accessory after the fact' which in most countries is, itself a crime. I'm not a lawyer, but if this were true, then in my opinion the law should be changed. I consider it unlikely that the police wouldn't interrogate me if my brother's girlfriend was killed. So why would I have to call the police? Solving crimes is their job, and blood is thicker than water.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 25, 2019 5:54:04 GMT
Catholics are all about forgiveness but not doing the appropriate thing. They forgive their clergy for their sins, but don't want to deal with any consequence that will taint— which it already is—their delusional and corrupt grip, hold and standing on the simpleminded herd that think they know more about God than any other institution or even individual for that matter.  |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 25, 2019 5:59:46 GMT
The coverage feels like universal condemnation while the cover-up is not. Most priests are guilty of nothing except maybe confidentiality of confessions and trusting their cardinals but it sure does feel like all of them are boinking kids once "media" gets done with them.
Yeah, because the world hates the truth (which basically means liberals hate the truth) so it attacks the Catholic church as much as it can in a attempt to make it look bad and draw people away from it and turn them against it.
besides from what I have heard... it's more of a homosexual problem within the church than a pedophile problem. but the media won't acknowledge that because it does not play inline with their narrative as they can't make homosexuals look bad since it's unpopular with the liberal media. so they got to twist the truth and make it look like pedophiles so everyone hates the church more and I assume they convince some that there are pedophiles everywhere within the Catholic church when it's simply not true.
from a quick search...
a quote from one of the articles there...
So if it is more of a homosexual problem than a pedophile one, just being homosexual to your standards is not worthy of your bulls<>t religion?
Homosexuality between consenting adults is NOT A CRIME sunshine. Raping little boys and girls that are pre-pubescent is and this then becomes a pedophile issue, within the ranks of your beloved clergy. Spin it anyway you want, but your church aint as Godly as it likes to think it is.
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Post by heeeeey on Aug 27, 2019 18:45:01 GMT
It is something that has disturbed me enough that I have pretty much left the Catholic church. There is too much I don't like or agree with about that whole system and all the scandals that have been going on with nuns, and lots of other things.
That said, it was always done in the shadows because they knew what they were doing was wrong and that they were putting up a front of moral authority that wasn't genuine.
Aside from that, it seems all the priests I've ever met had a crappy attitude, as if they were entitled to be thought highly of.
I appreciate my mother and aunts always telling me that priests were just men like every other man, and not people to be put on a pedestal and worshiped like a lot of people seem to do.
I saw a documentary about this on one of those channels about how priests were so 'revered' by people that they could go to someone's home, go upstairs into a child's bedroom and molest him right there in his own house.
Now, I see priests as just regular men who work in the church and religion field. They are no better or no worse than anyone else unless they are committing crimes.
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