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Post by goz on Aug 25, 2019 23:18:16 GMT
It has no meaning in my life. That wasn't actually the question.
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Post by progressiveelement on Aug 26, 2019 1:46:00 GMT
It has no meaning in my life. That wasn't actually the question. I forgot to add the voting 1 bit. 😇
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 11:35:37 GMT
I voted 5.
It's important in terms of the influence it has on society and public life. It's intellectually interesting to me.
Otherwise, not particularly.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Aug 26, 2019 11:52:59 GMT
I'm with Graham. In so far as I am interested in the history of ideas and philosophy, then religion is very significant. As moral inspiration and explanation for reality, far less.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Aug 26, 2019 21:58:43 GMT
I gave this an “8” because I enjoy studying religion and anthropology as a means to understand what it is to be human.
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Post by Morgana on Aug 28, 2019 9:08:08 GMT
So how important is religion in your life? For me its 1 If by religion you mean God, then 10.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 28, 2019 10:49:05 GMT
I'm with Graham. In so far as I am interested in the history of ideas and philosophy, then religion is very significant. As moral inspiration and explanation for reality, far less. By reality, this poster means things that are made out of atoms.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 28, 2019 11:10:05 GMT
I gave this an “8” because I enjoy studying religion and anthropology as a means to understand what it is to be human. I see human as just a delusion and the form isn't permanent and if any meaning is associated with it, it really isn't about being human. Meaning is not organic nor is it absolute and only human perception of what anything can represent only creates the illusion of what is perceived as real.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 28, 2019 11:16:38 GMT
I'm with Graham. In so far as I am interested in the history of ideas and philosophy, then religion is very significant. As moral inspiration and explanation for reality, far less. Some culture surrounding religion is perhaps worth preserving and yes I agree, the psychology and philosophy of what religion can represent and how it has influenced humans is very interesting. This also goes to show how much further we still have to go in fully understanding the true nature of our being and place in the universe.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Aug 28, 2019 12:06:35 GMT
I gave this an “8” because I enjoy studying religion and anthropology as a means to understand what it is to be human. I see human as just a delusion and the form isn't permanent and if any meaning is associated with it, it really isn't about being human. Meaning is not organic nor is it absolute and only human perception of what anything can represent only creates the illusion of what is perceived as real. Being human is no illusion.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 28, 2019 12:58:37 GMT
5/10. Yet so many people think I’m either too religious or somehow an atheist. To hell with them.
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Post by klandersen on Aug 28, 2019 13:35:08 GMT
At first I voted 1 because "organized" religion is not important to me. I don't think it ever has, even though as an infant I was baptized (Methodist) I think it was just the pastor rubbing the holy water on my forehead in the sign of the cross, not partial or total immersion. Typical just for show ceremony to satisfy parents beliefs for their children. Then later in my early 30s when I was on a "born again" evangelistic kick I did the total immersion version with a few friends. Besides getting totally soaked it didn't do anything for me. I wanted some awesome enlightenment or amazing life changing spark, but got nothing.
For most of my life I have always been seeking the spiritual side of things and reading about and exploring the various beliefs. In the 1980s I studied the New Age quasi-Christianity but never accepted it as any ultimate truth.
I changed my vote to 4 mostly to give that one a vote. Having the choice to either choose or refuse religion is important to me, but does not rule me. There are many days I don't think about religion at all. I often think about death, as almost every day there is some kind of exposure to it, a news report of someone being killed by someone else, an update on a previously reported death, or just remembering family members who are among the dead.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Aug 28, 2019 19:35:13 GMT
I'm with Graham. In so far as I am interested in the history of ideas and philosophy, then religion is very significant. As moral inspiration and explanation for reality, far less. By reality, this poster means things that are made out of atoms. And in fact we are made out of puppy dog's tails?
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Post by goz on Aug 28, 2019 21:20:50 GMT
I'm with Graham. In so far as I am interested in the history of ideas and philosophy, then religion is very significant. As moral inspiration and explanation for reality, far less. By reality, this poster means things that are made out of atoms. 1. the Op never mentioned reality. 2. You know that how? 3. Not everything is made out of atoms. Care to rephrase your comment and answer my question?
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Post by goz on Aug 28, 2019 21:24:15 GMT
I gave this an “8” because I enjoy studying religion and anthropology as a means to understand what it is to be human. I see human as just a delusion and the form isn't permanent and if any meaning is associated with it, it really isn't about being human. Meaning is not organic nor is it absolute and only human perception of what anything can represent only creates the illusion of what is perceived as real. That's weird. Here I am at my age having experienced a life with a body and a mind that is real, no matter how impermanent. I just hit computer keys and they typed what I was thinking and they went onto the internet and now you are reading them in a real world. I am a human.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 28, 2019 22:02:26 GMT
I see human as just a delusion and the form isn't permanent and if any meaning is associated with it, it really isn't about being human. Meaning is not organic nor is it absolute and only human perception of what anything can represent only creates the illusion of what is perceived as real. Being human is no illusion. One would have to ask then who's illusion is it? My main point was about meaning though. What if through the search for meaning, there is really no meaning?
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Post by goz on Aug 28, 2019 22:04:21 GMT
Being human is no illusion. One would have to ask then who's illusion is it? My main point was about meaning though. What if through the search for meaning, there is really no meaning? "Meaning' like beauty is in the 'eye of the beholder'"!
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Aug 28, 2019 22:04:58 GMT
Being human is no illusion. One would have to ask then who's illusion is it? My main point was about meaning though. What if through the search for meaning, there is really no meaning? Bingo!
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Post by goz on Aug 28, 2019 22:07:07 GMT
One would have to ask then who's illusion is it? My main point was about meaning though. What if through the search for meaning, there is really no meaning? Bingo! You are too cynical. 'Meaning, like shit... happens, if you are open to it.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 28, 2019 22:09:49 GMT
At first I voted 1 because "organized" religion is not important to me. I don't think it ever has, even though as an infant I was baptized (Methodist) I think it was just the pastor rubbing the holy water on my forehead in the sign of the cross, not partial or total immersion. Typical just for show ceremony to satisfy parents beliefs for their children. Then later in my early 30s when I was on a "born again" evangelistic kick I did the total immersion version with a few friends. Besides getting totally soaked it didn't do anything for me. I wanted some awesome enlightenment or amazing life changing spark, but got nothing.For most of my life I have always been seeking the spiritual side of things and reading about and exploring the various beliefs. In the 1980s I studied the New Age quasi-Christianity but never accepted it as any ultimate truth. I changed my vote to 4 mostly to give that one a vote. Having the choice to either choose or refuse religion is important to me, but does not rule me. There are many days I don't think about religion at all. I often think about death, as almost every day there is some kind of exposure to it, a news report of someone being killed by someone else, an update on a previously reported death, or just remembering family members who are among the dead.Religion is about hype and rapture and these experiences can be over-rated and over-indulged. It is about the external experience, more than the internal.
One could say we are also surrounded by birth as well, but so many of us tend to place our focus on the death part, which is seen as the end, rather than the birth part which is seen as the beginning. What if the beginning is really the end and the end is really the beginning?
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