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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 28, 2019 22:13:24 GMT
One would have to ask then who's illusion is it? My main point was about meaning though. What if through the search for meaning, there is really no meaning? What if through the search for meaning, there is really no meaning?Bingo! Then there is no meaning behind the human experience and no point looking for one. After all these eons and mankind has been looking, especially through the construct of religion and what God is supposed to represent, you would think logic and rationale would dictate that it would have been found by now.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 28, 2019 22:15:03 GMT
By reality, this poster means things that are made out of atoms. And in fact we are made out of puppy dog's tails? Don't forget the snips and snails.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Aug 28, 2019 22:16:29 GMT
What if through the search for meaning, there is really no meaning?Bingo! Then there is no meaning behind the human experience and no point looking for one. After all these eons and mankind has been looking, especially through the construct of religion and what God is supposed to represent, you would think logic and rationale would dictate that it would have been found by now. It frees one up from the pressure that there must be meaning or one can seek out a meaning of their own. I have come to think way and am quite happy that I did. And that’s the point of examined life.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 28, 2019 22:22:45 GMT
Then there is no meaning behind the human experience and no point looking for one. After all these eons and mankind has been looking, especially through the construct of religion and what God is supposed to represent, you would think logic and rationale would dictate that it would have been found by now. It frees one up from the pressure that there must be meaning or one can seek out a meaning of their own. I have come to think way and am quite happy that I did. And that’s the point of examined life. What if trying to find this meaning, whatever it is supposed to be, is in fact creating the pressure and in turn manifests the suffering of the human experience?
Analysis can be just as over-rated as meaning and life is best lived in the moment without all the dressings and entrapments that can go along with examination. This can lead to confusion.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Aug 28, 2019 22:29:08 GMT
It frees one up from the pressure that there must be meaning or one can seek out a meaning of their own. I have come to think way and am quite happy that I did. And that’s the point of examined life. What if trying to find this meaning, whatever it is supposed to be, is in fact creating the pressure and in turn manifests the suffering of the human experience?
Analysis can be just as over-rated as meaning and life is best lived in the moment without all the dressings and entrapments that can go along with examination. This can lead to confusion. I agree. Zen saying: "Before Enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water.”
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 28, 2019 22:35:25 GMT
What if trying to find this meaning, whatever it is supposed to be, is in fact creating the pressure and in turn manifests the suffering of the human experience?
Analysis can be just as over-rated as meaning and life is best lived in the moment without all the dressings and entrapments that can go along with examination. This can lead to confusion. I agree. Zen saying: "Before Enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water.” Yes, it all comes back down to the same and just "is". Beginning and end are just human mind constructs and are limiting. Like the mathematical equation pi, it is endless and infinite.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Aug 28, 2019 22:48:50 GMT
I agree. Zen saying: "Before Enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water.” Yes, it all comes back down to the same and just "is". Beginning and end are just human mind constructs and are limiting. Like the mathematical equation pi, it is endless and infinite.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 28, 2019 22:58:21 GMT
Yes, it all comes back down to the same and just "is". Beginning and end are just human mind constructs and are limiting. Like the mathematical equation pi, it is endless and infinite. We have to find our own way out of this mess and ultimately a way out of of our fear of death, which is what tends to press us the most as humans, yet when something is imminent and inevitable, what purpose is this fear really serving us?
Human suffering is created out of our lack of understanding about the true nature of our realities and of course largely instigated by fear of death and seeing it as the be all end all of everything.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 29, 2019 3:28:46 GMT
I am not baptized as one of Jehovahs Witnesses. Right. I knew that "accept that I am baptized" was going to be more misleading bullshit from you. Just as we are to accept his beliefs of God as being the only truth and anything else that is said to undermine or contrary to Cool, is not worthy of him. I think what we can ascertain, is that Cools honesty cannot be trusted.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 29, 2019 7:48:44 GMT
By reality, this poster means things that are made out of atoms. 1. the Op never mentioned reality. 2. You know that how? 3. Not everything is made out of atoms. Care to rephrase your comment and answer my question? I wasn't quoting from the OP, as you full well know.
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