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Post by NJtoTX on Sept 2, 2019 16:15:46 GMT
Much of the discussion about this is because of the salt, sugar, saturated fat, etc. It adds a lot of noise to the discussion for those of us already avoiding most of those things. A lot of the reasons for avoiding processed foods are so your body has to work to break down the fiber in unprocessed foods and a lot of calories aren't easily absorbed.
I was at Trader Joe yesterday realizing that nearly all of the foods they carry are processed. And they have a pretty lame fruits and vegetables section.
I realized tbat many of the things I eat regularly may be healthy to some extent, but are still processed.
Here's a nonexhaustive list of processed foods.
Canned Fruits
Canned Vegetables
Frozen Fruits
Frozen Vegetables
French Fries
Ketchup
Pie Fillings
Jams & Jellies
Fruit Juice
Vegetable Juice
Tomato Soup
Tomato Pasta Sauce
Potato Chips
Corn Chips
Dried Fruits
Dried Vegetables
Canned Meats (SPAM, Most Tuna Fish, etc)
Cured Meats (Lunch meats)
Ham
Sausage
Bacon
Some Frozen Meats
Gelatin
Chicken Nuggets
Most Pre-Cooked Meats
Cured Meats
Bologna
White Rice
Flour
Bread
Rolls
Buns
Bagels
Bread Sticks
Pizza Crusts
Taco Shells
Muffins
Macaroni
Pasta
Cake (and Cake Mixes)
Pie Crusts
Cookies
Pop Tarts (and similar foods)
Doughnuts
Pastries
Pizza Rolls
Microwave Pizza
Frozen Dinners
Granola Bars (and bagged granola)
Almost all Energy Bars
Protein Bars
Jalapeno Poppers
Microwave Tacos
Microwave Burritos
Raman Noodles
Most Canned Soups
Roasted & Salted Nuts
Cheeses
Cheese Foods
Milk (In some areas you can get raw milk, which is not processed)
Yogurt
Kiefer
Cream Cheese
Apple Juice
Orange Juice
Grape Juice
Grapefruit Juice
Cranberry Juice
Juice Flavored Drinks
All Soda
Instant Breakfasts
Flavored Waters
Coffee (you can buy raw coffee, which is unprocessed)
Tea (You can buy raw tea, which is unprocessed)
Cooking Spray
Margarine
Salad Dressings
BBQ Sauce
Most Seed Oils
Refined Oils
Peanut Butter
Cashew Butter
Mayonnaise
Soy Sauce
Vegetable Oils
White Sugar
Brown Sugar
Powdered Sugar
Corn Syrup
Rice Syrup
Pudding
Soft Candies
Marshmallows
Caramel
Honey (You can buy raw honey, which is not processed)
Ice Cream
Whipped Cream
Chocolate
Shredded Coconut (You can buy unprocessed coconut in some areas, which is not processed)
Sugar Substituted (Equal, Sweet & Low, etc)
Maple Syrup
Hard Candy
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Post by wickedkittiesmom on Sept 2, 2019 16:24:04 GMT
We live in an era where most of our food is processed in some way. Maybe the human body is adapting to these foods. I doubt that any of us would be able to eat the food they ate several centuries ago.
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Post by divtal on Sept 2, 2019 17:47:43 GMT
We live in an era where most of our food is processed in some way. Maybe the human body is adapting to these foods. I doubt that any of us would be able to eat the food they ate several centuries ago. There's a fun website that addresses living in the 18th century. "James Townsend and Son," includes a lot of cooking videos, from that day. And, WKM, you're right. Some of the dishes look too simple, and even unappetizing. www.youtube.com/user/jastownsendandson
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Post by klawrencio79 on Sept 3, 2019 14:24:16 GMT
Much of the discussion about this is because of the salt, sugar, saturated fat, etc. It adds a lot of noise to the discussion for those of us already avoiding most of those things. A lot of the reasons for avoiding processed foods are so your body has to work to break down the fiber in unprocessed foods and a lot of calories aren't easily absorbed. I was at Trader Joe yesterday realizing that nearly all of the foods they carry are processed. And they have a pretty lame fruits and vegetables section. I realized tbat many of the things I eat regularly may be healthy to some extent, but are still processed. Here's a nonexhaustive list of processed foods. Canned Fruits Canned Vegetables Frozen Fruits Frozen Vegetables French Fries Ketchup Pie Fillings Jams & Jellies Fruit Juice Vegetable Juice Tomato Soup Tomato Pasta Sauce Potato Chips Corn Chips Dried Fruits Dried Vegetables Canned Meats (SPAM, Most Tuna Fish, etc) Cured Meats (Lunch meats) Ham Sausage Bacon Some Frozen Meats Gelatin Chicken Nuggets Most Pre-Cooked Meats Cured Meats Bologna White Rice Flour Bread Rolls Buns Bagels Bread Sticks Pizza Crusts Taco Shells Muffins Macaroni Pasta Cake (and Cake Mixes) Pie Crusts Cookies Pop Tarts (and similar foods) Doughnuts Pastries Pizza Rolls Microwave Pizza Frozen Dinners Granola Bars (and bagged granola) Almost all Energy Bars Protein Bars Jalapeno Poppers Microwave Tacos Microwave Burritos Raman Noodles Most Canned Soups Roasted & Salted Nuts Cheeses Cheese Foods Milk (In some areas you can get raw milk, which is not processed) Yogurt Kiefer Cream Cheese Apple Juice Orange Juice Grape Juice Grapefruit Juice Cranberry Juice Juice Flavored Drinks All Soda Instant Breakfasts Flavored Waters Coffee (you can buy raw coffee, which is unprocessed) Tea (You can buy raw tea, which is unprocessed) Cooking Spray Margarine Salad Dressings BBQ Sauce Most Seed Oils Refined Oils Peanut Butter Cashew Butter Mayonnaise Soy Sauce Vegetable Oils White Sugar Brown Sugar Powdered Sugar Corn Syrup Rice Syrup Pudding Soft Candies Marshmallows Caramel Honey (You can buy raw honey, which is not processed) Ice Cream Whipped Cream Chocolate Shredded Coconut (You can buy unprocessed coconut in some areas, which is not processed) Sugar Substituted (Equal, Sweet & Low, etc) Maple Syrup Hard Candy Pretty much any supermarket, beyond a "farm stand" type of one, will be littered with processed foods. Generally speaking, the outside of any store will be your more natural whole foods (as you note, many of the meats and dairy items are, in fact, processed as well), whereas the aisles and interiors will be all processed. Not all Trader Joe's are the same though, they all carry different items. There is one within walking distance of my house, and another about a 5 minute drive from my office and it's like going to 2 completely different stores. My general rule of thumb is that anything with more than 5 ingredients, or a single ingredient that I can't pronounce, is no bueno. Nothing with any added sugar, no xantham gum and nothing that comes in more than layer of packaging ( i.e., something that is in a vacuum sealed bag and is then put inside a box). In recent years, I've started making my own almond and peanut butter, my own almond milk, my own granola, my own hummus, most of my own sauces and spreads. It's time consuming but it definitely helps you monitor what you're eating and not for nothing, it tastes much better.
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Post by sweetpea on Sept 3, 2019 17:14:52 GMT
Much of the discussion about this is because of the salt, sugar, saturated fat, etc. It adds a lot of noise to the discussion for those of us already avoiding most of those things. A lot of the reasons for avoiding processed foods are so your body has to work to break down the fiber in unprocessed foods and a lot of calories aren't easily absorbed. I was at Trader Joe yesterday realizing that nearly all of the foods they carry are processed. And they have a pretty lame fruits and vegetables section. I realized tbat many of the things I eat regularly may be healthy to some extent, but are still processed. Here's a nonexhaustive list of processed foods. Canned Fruits Canned Vegetables Frozen Fruits Frozen Vegetables French Fries Ketchup Pie Fillings Jams & Jellies Fruit Juice Vegetable Juice Tomato Soup Tomato Pasta Sauce Potato Chips Corn Chips Dried Fruits Dried Vegetables Canned Meats (SPAM, Most Tuna Fish, etc) Cured Meats (Lunch meats) Ham Sausage Bacon Some Frozen Meats Gelatin Chicken Nuggets Most Pre-Cooked Meats Cured Meats Bologna White Rice Flour Bread Rolls Buns Bagels Bread Sticks Pizza Crusts Taco Shells Muffins Macaroni Pasta Cake (and Cake Mixes) Pie Crusts Cookies Pop Tarts (and similar foods) Doughnuts Pastries Pizza Rolls Microwave Pizza Frozen Dinners Granola Bars (and bagged granola) Almost all Energy Bars Protein Bars Jalapeno Poppers Microwave Tacos Microwave Burritos Raman Noodles Most Canned Soups Roasted & Salted Nuts Cheeses Cheese Foods Milk (In some areas you can get raw milk, which is not processed) Yogurt Kiefer Cream Cheese Apple Juice Orange Juice Grape Juice Grapefruit Juice Cranberry Juice Juice Flavored Drinks All Soda Instant Breakfasts Flavored Waters Coffee (you can buy raw coffee, which is unprocessed) Tea (You can buy raw tea, which is unprocessed) Cooking Spray Margarine Salad Dressings BBQ Sauce Most Seed Oils Refined Oils Peanut Butter Cashew Butter Mayonnaise Soy Sauce Vegetable Oils White Sugar Brown Sugar Powdered Sugar Corn Syrup Rice Syrup Pudding Soft Candies Marshmallows Caramel Honey (You can buy raw honey, which is not processed) Ice Cream Whipped Cream Chocolate Shredded Coconut (You can buy unprocessed coconut in some areas, which is not processed) Sugar Substituted (Equal, Sweet & Low, etc) Maple Syrup Hard Candy Pretty much any supermarket, beyond a "farm stand" type of one, will be littered with processed foods. Generally speaking, the outside of any store will be your more natural whole foods (as you note, many of the meats and dairy items are, in fact, processed as well), whereas the aisles and interiors will be all processed. Not all Trader Joe's are the same though, they all carry different items. There is one within walking distance of my house, and another about a 5 minute drive from my office and it's like going to 2 completely different stores. My general rule of thumb is that anything with more than 5 ingredients, or a single ingredient that I can't pronounce, is no bueno. Nothing with any added sugar, no xantham gum and nothing that comes in more than layer of packaging ( i.e., something that is in a vacuum sealed bag and is then put inside a box). In recent years, I've started making my own almond and peanut butter, my own almond milk, my own granola, my own hummus, most of my own sauces and spreads. It's time consuming but it definitely helps you monitor what you're eating and not for nothing, it tastes much better. I like to make my own for many things. But pb, no, nope, nopey. It has to be JIF. Don't care how processed it is. That is the only pb going on a spoon, touching my lips, & into my mouth. And.....down the hatchet. I'm like the little ones, when grandma made them homemade mac & cheese "sorry grandma, but we like the boxed better" Don't worry, they actually grew out of that, being Sicilian & all. But, I haven't! 
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Post by klawrencio79 on Sept 3, 2019 17:18:33 GMT
Pretty much any supermarket, beyond a "farm stand" type of one, will be littered with processed foods. Generally speaking, the outside of any store will be your more natural whole foods (as you note, many of the meats and dairy items are, in fact, processed as well), whereas the aisles and interiors will be all processed. Not all Trader Joe's are the same though, they all carry different items. There is one within walking distance of my house, and another about a 5 minute drive from my office and it's like going to 2 completely different stores. My general rule of thumb is that anything with more than 5 ingredients, or a single ingredient that I can't pronounce, is no bueno. Nothing with any added sugar, no xantham gum and nothing that comes in more than layer of packaging ( i.e., something that is in a vacuum sealed bag and is then put inside a box). In recent years, I've started making my own almond and peanut butter, my own almond milk, my own granola, my own hummus, most of my own sauces and spreads. It's time consuming but it definitely helps you monitor what you're eating and not for nothing, it tastes much better. I like to make my own for many things. But pb, no, nope, nopey. It has to be JIF. Don't care how processed it is. That is the only pb going on a spoon, touching my lips, & into my mouth. And.....down the hatchet. I'm like the little ones, when grandma made them homemade mac & cheese "sorry grandma, but we like the boxed better" Don't worry, they actually grew out of that, being Sicilian & all. But, I haven't!  That's awesome.
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Post by novastar6 on Sept 3, 2019 18:04:44 GMT
We live in an era where most of our food is processed in some way. Maybe the human body is adapting to these foods. I doubt that any of us would be able to eat the food they ate several centuries ago. There's a fun website that addresses living in the 18th century. "James Townsend and Son," includes a lot of cooking videos, from that day. And, WKM, you're right. Some of the dishes look too simple, and even unappetizing. www.youtube.com/user/jastownsendandson All the while it's unlikely anybody today could stomach the salt cured meat our ancestors made to be preserved without refrigeration.
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Post by mmexis on Sept 3, 2019 23:26:46 GMT
Some of the processing is one step. Most frozen vegetables/fruit/fish are IQF (Individually quick frozen or flash frozen)
You do have to process flour in the sense that you grind the wheat.
In my area I can find apple juice (and other juices) that are not from concentrate - therefore only squeezed.
Other than chips, some of that list I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.
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Post by goz on Sept 4, 2019 3:17:20 GMT
Some of the processing is one step. Most frozen vegetables/fruit/fish are IQF (Individually quicik frozen or flash frozen) You do have to process flour in the sense that you grind the wheat. In my area I can find apple juice (and other juices) that are not from concentrate - therefore only squeezed. Other than chips, some of that list I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. You beat me to it about canned and frozen foods. Unless they have with the canned (in that they have added salt or sugar) traditionally canned and frozen fruit and vegetables are almost as good as fresh, as they are quality produce canned or snap frozen at their peak nutrition. Your point about ground cereal products is valid as well, as if you have whole grain wholemeal ground processed crops, the nutrition is still in the food. You Do have to read labels carefully, however.
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Post by wickedkittiesmom on Sept 4, 2019 11:27:53 GMT
The time in my life that I ate the least amount of processed food was the short time I lived in Greece. I ate fish just caught (this was before I developed my fish & seafood allergy), very fresh fruits and vegetables, nothing canned or frozen. It was probably the healthiest diet I ever had. This was the 1970's so its probably changed now. There were no fast food joints in Greece at that time except for McMilton's in Athens. Many people in the city did not have ovens so every morning I would see women taking pans of food to be cooked by their local baker. In the countryside and on the islands, I saw bread being baked outside in domed shaped stone ovens. I'm sure its very different in this day and age, I never went back (its usually best not to go back because things change and often it leads to disappointment).
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Post by siberianhusky on Sept 30, 2019 19:52:24 GMT
Siberian Husky eat animals raw after he kill them on Russian frontier. Siberian Husky master of Russian frontier and eat whatever it choose. That food no processed, very nutritious which is why Siberian husky so powerful and strong.
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Post by NJtoTX on Sept 30, 2019 20:26:19 GMT
It has to be JIF. Don't care how processed it is. That is the only pb going on a spoon, touching my lips, & into my mouth. And.....down the hatchet. We never had anything but Skippy when I was growing up.
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