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Post by dazz on Sept 8, 2019 14:11:36 GMT
TASM 2 was the lowest grossing SM movie (besides Spider-Verse). FFH is the highest. Yeah well in US each Spider-man movie made less than the one before it except for Spider-man 3 that was true for worldwide too. I think what you meant was until Homecoming every Spiderman film had made less money than the previous one domestically, and with the exception of Spider an 3 that was also the case world wide, but Homecoming & Far From Home both substantially earned more than their predecessor both domestically and world wide.
Because what you wrote sounds more blanket like saying every Spidey film has made less each time out which isn't right.
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Post by scabab on Sept 8, 2019 15:38:18 GMT
Yeah I meant until Spider-man joined the MCU.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 8:31:56 GMT
Well according to wikipedia, theyre pretty good for general info. TAS2 cost almost 300mil to make and im betting that takes into account marketing costs as theres no way that film cost that much without it. So thats still 400mil profit Nope budget refers to production budget, $200-290m production budget and according to their wiki $180-190m marketing costs for anywhere between $380-480m total expenses before you factor in points and percentages, and a film at BEST keeps only 50% of their box office more like high 30's to low 40's internationally and anywhere between 25-33% in china, so of that $710 ish million TASM2 made Sony got less that $355m of it, hence them killing the franchise and rebooting with Marvel.
TASM 2 was also entirely filed in NY state which I don't think is cheap and probably cost a hefty amount of the budget, but it was at the time and may still be the biggest production filmed in the state, so yeah the cost doesn't translate on screen that well but them fuckers spent a shit ton of money just filming that atrocity.
Fair enough I just find it difficult to imagine that Sony would fork out that much money for Spider-man and the marketing isnt included
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Post by dazz on Sept 10, 2019 10:51:54 GMT
Nope budget refers to production budget, $200-290m production budget and according to their wiki $180-190m marketing costs for anywhere between $380-480m total expenses before you factor in points and percentages, and a film at BEST keeps only 50% of their box office more like high 30's to low 40's internationally and anywhere between 25-33% in china, so of that $710 ish million TASM2 made Sony got less that $355m of it, hence them killing the franchise and rebooting with Marvel.
TASM 2 was also entirely filed in NY state which I don't think is cheap and probably cost a hefty amount of the budget, but it was at the time and may still be the biggest production filmed in the state, so yeah the cost doesn't translate on screen that well but them fuckers spent a shit ton of money just filming that atrocity.
Fair enough I just find it difficult to imagine that Sony would fork out that much money for Spider-man and the marketing isnt included Spiderman 1 & the MCU Spidey films are the only live action Spidey movies to not cost $200m+ production, Spider 3 was north of $250m and this is all production budgets not including marketing, Sony has always splashed out huge with Spidey budgets.
Also almost if not all the street shots in TASM 2 use CGI also because they didn't film in NYC but Rochester or something and used CGI to make it look like NYC, which I imagine could be just as if not maybe more expensive than just going full CGI and green screen like the MCU does, trying to blend the CGI city with the real life city effectively would probably cost a bit, plus trying to look out and make sure you don't get a bird flying through a CGI building in the background.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 10, 2019 16:15:50 GMT
From Forbes:The reality of the Spider-Man franchise for Sony is one of diminishing returns.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 17:45:27 GMT
From Forbes:The reality of the Spider-Man franchise for Sony is one of diminishing returns. Oof! It is only some time before they make the gender change to Spider Woman! That's how they will start receiving the money back. Our beloved super costumed men are being run into feminists, ja?
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