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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 1:32:41 GMT
I remember how excited I was to see this movie as a 8-year-old kid and then seeing it in theaters and loving it and I never had a problem with it and I have never gotten why it was so hated or why it's considered inferior to Edward Norton or Mark Ruffalo's Hulk.
I remember wondering for years as a kid why they never made a sequel to the 2003 film and remember how confused I was when Marvel completely rebooted Hulk with The Incredible Hulk (2008) and I always thought the 2008 film and Edward Norton's Hulk was good, but nowhere even in the same league as Ang Lee's Hulk. But then when I got into my teens and became a big Internet guru, I found about how much most comic book geeks and the movie-going masses absolutely hated Eric Bana's Hulk and how many people lump it into the big list of several 2000's comic book movie misfires like Fantastic Four, Daredevil, Catwoman, Ghost Rider, etc.
But, I just recently rewatched Hulk again all the way through on my 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray with perfect Xbox One quality with the volume really loud and the room lights completely off...and man......not only did it look and sound amazing and was it the absolute best movie experience I have personally had in a long time...but I was blown away by how much this film still holds up to this day. I love the Danny Elfman score, the story, the action and I'd go as far it holds up way better than ANY OTHER comic book film of that period, but I would go as far as to say it's better than ANY OTHER comic book film ever made period and THAT INCLUDES movies like Spider-Man 2 or the Christopher Nolan Batman movies or any of the X-Men films (as much as I still heavily enjoy them).
I just cannot get enough of this film and I long for a day when comic books and movies like this started being made again and long for day when the masses see this film for the massively underrated and missunderstood masterpiece it really it is.
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Post by Jerk on Sept 9, 2019 5:48:22 GMT
It is still the best but I don't think it has aged well. They've both gone down hill in my appreciation for them. I want a hulk film that reminds me of how great hulk can be similar to how he has been done in the Avengers movies.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Sept 9, 2019 5:55:55 GMT
It sucked.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 9, 2019 6:15:03 GMT
I liked it.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 9, 2019 7:02:40 GMT
Hulk 2003 isn't a perfect movie, but it's far better than the Incredible Hulk IMO. TiH is more or less Hulk for Dummies.
Ang Lee's Hulk hews more closely to the comic book mythology. Hulk doesn't have a gamma bomb but, the creature is drawn to the site of his creation in the desert. The compulsion to return to his "birthplace" shows his tragic and solitary nature.
The Hulk, more than anything, wants to be left alone. Who knows what TiH's roided up monstrosity wants. No one ever calls out the opening scene where a mild-mannered scientist suddenly becomes a parkour master and evades a spec-ops team.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 8:38:33 GMT
The film is alright. I remember a couple of friends walked out of the screening as it bored them.
Also 62% on RT. Critics Consensus-While Ang Lee's ambitious film earns marks for style and an attempt at dramatic depth, there's ultimately too much talking and not enough smashing.
Budget-137mil
BO-245mil
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Post by scabab on Sept 9, 2019 10:50:21 GMT
It was always way to slow for me. I never liked it. I went with the same friends to see Spider-man and X-Men 2 and we all liked those but none of us thought much of Hulk.
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Post by dazz on Sept 9, 2019 13:01:52 GMT
I never like Ang Lee's Hulk, I think Hulk for one looks like shit, I also really don't like the madder he gets the bigger he gets thing, Hulk dogs were so stupid, I remember this being the first cbm I actively disliked from the get go, up till then and for a while after almost any cbm I enjoyed atleast the first time I saw it, Hulk wasn't that way, I was bored, rolled my eyes a fair bit throughout and I didn't really like the ending, people moan about sky beams but I would rather a sky beam and a physical baddie to battle rather than cloud monster crap.
I think Hulk had more promise than TIH but TIH is just executed better, it looks better imo, has more enjoyable action scenes, it isn't perfect and I am not actually much of a fan of Norton's Banner tbh, but I liked him a lot more than I did Bana's atleast.
I have rewatched every cbm I have ever seen 4 or more times atleast, except Ang Lee's Hulk I watched it twice, once originally obviously then like a 7-8 years ago just to see if I still disliked it, and I did, Ang Lee's Hulk just misses the mark with me at every point, and it's sad because I think it had the more interesting potential story buy it was just bungled all through out imo.
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 9, 2019 13:36:31 GMT
I never like Ang Lee's Hulk, I think Hulk for one looks like shit, I also really don't like the madder he gets the bigger he gets thing, Hulk dogs were so stupid, I remember this being the first cbm I actively disliked from the get go, up till then and for a while after almost any cbm I enjoyed atleast the first time I saw it, Hulk wasn't that way, I was bored, rolled my eyes a fair bit throughout and I didn't really like the ending, people moan about sky beams but I would rather a sky beam and a physical baddie to battle rather than cloud monster crap. I think Hulk had more promise than TIH but TIH is just executed better, it looks better imo, has more enjoyable action scenes, it isn't perfect and I am not actually much of a fan of Norton's Banner tbh, but I liked him a lot more than I did Bana's atleast. I have rewatched every cbm I have ever seen 4 or more times atleast, except Ang Lee's Hulk I watched it twice, once originally obviously then like a 7-8 years ago just to see if I still disliked it, and I did, Ang Lee's Hulk just misses the mark with me at every point, and it's sad because I think it had the more interesting potential story buy it was just bungled all through out imo. I always thought he looked like a cross between Jose Canseco and Shrek.
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Post by dazz on Sept 9, 2019 13:43:22 GMT
I never like Ang Lee's Hulk, I think Hulk for one looks like shit, I also really don't like the madder he gets the bigger he gets thing, Hulk dogs were so stupid, I remember this being the first cbm I actively disliked from the get go, up till then and for a while after almost any cbm I enjoyed atleast the first time I saw it, Hulk wasn't that way, I was bored, rolled my eyes a fair bit throughout and I didn't really like the ending, people moan about sky beams but I would rather a sky beam and a physical baddie to battle rather than cloud monster crap. I think Hulk had more promise than TIH but TIH is just executed better, it looks better imo, has more enjoyable action scenes, it isn't perfect and I am not actually much of a fan of Norton's Banner tbh, but I liked him a lot more than I did Bana's atleast. I have rewatched every cbm I have ever seen 4 or more times atleast, except Ang Lee's Hulk I watched it twice, once originally obviously then like a 7-8 years ago just to see if I still disliked it, and I did, Ang Lee's Hulk just misses the mark with me at every point, and it's sad because I think it had the more interesting potential story buy it was just bungled all through out imo. I always thought he looked like a cross between Jose Canseco and Shrek. Yeesh that's a romantic image I didn't need in my head, DAMN YOU!!!
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Post by hobowar on Sept 9, 2019 13:51:21 GMT
Maybe, but Ben Affleck's DareDevil is still the greatest comic book movie of all time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 14:54:42 GMT
I never like Ang Lee's Hulk, I think Hulk for one looks like shit, I also really don't like the madder he gets the bigger he gets thing, Hulk dogs were so stupid, I remember this being the first cbm I actively disliked from the get go, up till then and for a while after almost any cbm I enjoyed atleast the first time I saw it, Hulk wasn't that way, I was bored, rolled my eyes a fair bit throughout and I didn't really like the ending, people moan about sky beams but I would rather a sky beam and a physical baddie to battle rather than cloud monster crap. I think Hulk had more promise than TIH but TIH is just executed better, it looks better imo, has more enjoyable action scenes, it isn't perfect and I am not actually much of a fan of Norton's Banner tbh, but I liked him a lot more than I did Bana's atleast. I have rewatched every cbm I have ever seen 4 or more times atleast, except Ang Lee's Hulk I watched it twice, once originally obviously then like a 7-8 years ago just to see if I still disliked it, and I did, Ang Lee's Hulk just misses the mark with me at every point, and it's sad because I think it had the more interesting potential story buy it was just bungled all through out imo. I always thought he looked like a cross between Jose Canseco and Shrek. I think this is BY FAR the most idiotic and most nonsensical criticism I have ever personally read of Eric Bana's Hulk.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 14:58:29 GMT
It was always way to slow for me. I never liked it. I went with the same friends to see Spider-man and X-Men 2 and we all liked those but none of us thought much of Hulk. So you and you're friends have an incredibly low attention span and just want unrealistic mindless action with little story or character development. I understand. And IMO, HULK (2003) has way more action and is more fun comic book movie to watch than either the first Sam Raimi Spider-Man film or Bryan Singer's X-Men films.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Sept 9, 2019 15:10:12 GMT
It was always way to slow for me. I never liked it. I went with the same friends to see Spider-man and X-Men 2 and we all liked those but none of us thought much of Hulk. So you and you're friends have an incredibly low attention span and just want unrealistic mindless action with little story or character development. I understand. And IMO, HULK (2003) has way more action and is more fun comic book movie to watch than either the first Sam Raimi Spider-Man film or Bryan Singer's X-Men films. Yes. Anyone who doesn't like the same comic book movie as you has a low attention span....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 15:22:33 GMT
So you and you're friends have an incredibly low attention span and just want unrealistic mindless action with little story or character development. I understand. And IMO, HULK (2003) has way more action and is more fun comic book movie to watch than either the first Sam Raimi Spider-Man film or Bryan Singer's X-Men films. Yes. Anyone who doesn't like the same comic book movie as you has a low attention span.... Well it's true that most people who hate Ang Lee's HULK do have a short attention span and the only criticism is you ever read or hear about it is how it's not a boring flavor of the month happy-go-lucky black and white good vs. evil superhero movie and how supposedly "boring" and "slow" it is and it usually comes from people who aren't even real Hulk fans or don't even care about the character. That and some of the criticism it gets is also incredibly pretentious and stupid like the one poster who said he/she hated how Hulk got stronger and bigger whenever he got angrier and that's a really dumb and pretentious criticism too because that made Ang Lee's Hulk really awesome and cool to a lot of people and the only people who be bothered by that are people who want the Hulk to be depowered.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Sept 9, 2019 15:32:18 GMT
Well it's true that most people who hate Ang Lee's HULK do have a low attention span Really? Has a scientific survey been done for this subject? Or did you just come up with that on your own?
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Post by dazz on Sept 9, 2019 15:40:10 GMT
Yes. Anyone who doesn't like the same comic book movie as you has a low attention span.... Well it's true that most people who hate Ang Lee's HULK do have a low attention span and only criticism is you ever read or hear about it how it's not a boring flavor of the month happy-go-lucky black and white superhero movie and how supposedly "boring" and "slow" it is and it usually comes from people who aren't even real Hulk fans or don't even care about the character. That and a some of the criticism it gets is also incredibly pretentious and stupid like the one poster who said he/she hated how Hulk got stronger and bigger whenever he got angrier and that's a really dumb and pretentious criticism too because that made Ang Lee's Hulk really awesome and cool to a lot of people and the only people who be bothered by that are people who want the Hulk to be depowered. Pretentious - attempting to impress by affecting greater importance or merit than is actually possessed.
Saying I don't like how the madder the character got the larger he got isn't pretentious, nor is it stupid, it's a statement of personal preference, what you said is pretentious and stupid because it's bullshit, oh it made the character really cool for a lot of people...not "a lot" of people saw this movie, most people who have hate it, so the majority of the small audience it garnered don't like the film and a criticism others do also have is the he gets bigger as he gets angrier aspect.
You love the movie and that's cool, most people don't or outright hate it, also claiming the only criticism it ever gets is that it's slow is false because I criticised it and never once did I say it was slow or boring, I said it had many good elements poorly utilised, clearly you just cannot accept a dissenting opinion and so are another one of those petulant bratty types who think their opinion is gospel and will fabricate praise and ignore criticism to try and shoehorn in your narrative.
Note how I nor anyone else here called you stupid, pretentious, moronic, deranged, fucked up or anything else for loving the film, we just gave our opinion on the movie itself, you had to turn around and attack other people for dissenting opinions, revelling in finding others who also like the film dude, and don't be such a cúnt to insult people who don't, unless you are dealing with a one note troll ala DC-Fan or whatever name Summers is going by these days in those cases insult away it'll be the only joy in any debate with those two you can get.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 9, 2019 15:45:53 GMT
The Incredible Hulk is a better movie than Hulk.
Also, I don't have a low (you man short) attention span. I just have discriminating taste in movies.
I like Hulk but TIH is simply much better.
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Post by dazz on Sept 9, 2019 15:49:11 GMT
Ang Lee's Hulk hews more closely to the comic book mythology. Hulk doesn't have a gamma bomb but, the creature is drawn to the site of his creation in the desert. The compulsion to return to his "birthplace" shows his tragic and solitary. The Hulk, more than anything, wants to be left alone. Who knows what TiH's roided up monstrosity wants. No one ever calls out the opening scene where a mild-mannered scientist suddenly becomes a parkour master and evades a spec-ops team. I think they kind of hint at Hulk wanting to be alone in TIH also because he always runs off to be alone once he takes out the threats or annoyances as they maybe, but they could have done a better job showing that I guess, but Hulk in the MCU after than not so much.
Sticking closer to the source material isn't a positive or a negative imo but then if you love the Hulk comics and that stuff then yeah that would be a positive, it's still a subjective rather than objective issue though.
As for Parkour Banner in TIH I don't think him having learned that after what several years being chased fails to make sense, he isn't just a mild mannered scientist, he's a gamma fuelled time bomb of rage running for years from the US government makes sense he'd try to learn how to scarper effectively, especially in a place he has been at for some time.
My issue is how does he learn to do that? like too much excitement and adrenaline can set Hulk off right also not just anger, so how did he effectively learn to parkour without setting Hulk off several times by failing? kind of the same complaint but not quite.
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Post by scabab on Sept 9, 2019 17:04:56 GMT
So you and you're friends have an incredibly low attention span and just want unrealistic mindless action with little story or character development. I understand. No it was just a really boring and crappy movie. It always has been.
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