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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 1:09:41 GMT
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Post by maya55555 on Sept 13, 2019 2:36:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 2:41:26 GMT
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 13, 2019 10:38:16 GMT
It's a West Wing clip
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Post by Isapop on Sept 13, 2019 11:18:55 GMT
The anti-gay Christian will answer that they don’t live under the rules of the Old Testament, but rather under the new law of God. The New Testament reaffirms some OT prohibitions on adultery and homosexuality, but says nothing about the items mentioned in the clip.
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Post by kls on Sept 13, 2019 11:45:48 GMT
The only thing I'd add to a discussion on what God's law regarding homosexuals is would be I imagine a monogamous homosexual just might have less to worry about than a promiscuous or unfaithful heterosexual does (when it comes to judgement day).
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 13, 2019 11:49:10 GMT
It was a show pushing an agenda.
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Post by Isapop on Sept 13, 2019 12:10:04 GMT
The only thing I'd add to a discussion on what God's law regarding homosexuals is would be I imagine a monogamous homosexual just might have less to worry about than a promiscuous or unfaithful heterosexual does (when it comes to judgement day). If God regards both adultery and homosexuality as sinful, why shouldn't the monogamous homosexual and the unfaithful heterosexual be equally worried?
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Post by general313 on Sept 13, 2019 14:43:11 GMT
The only thing I'd add to a discussion on what God's law regarding homosexuals is would be I imagine a monogamous homosexual just might have less to worry about than a promiscuous or unfaithful heterosexual does (when it comes to judgement day). If God regards both adultery and homosexuality as sinful, why shouldn't the monogamous homosexual and the unfaithful heterosexual be equally worried? Well, in the New Testament Jesus didn't have time to talk about one of them, left that to St. Paul. Maybe he thought one was more important than the other.
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Post by Isapop on Sept 13, 2019 15:32:29 GMT
If God regards both adultery and homosexuality as sinful, why shouldn't the monogamous homosexual and the unfaithful heterosexual be equally worried? Well, in the New Testament Jesus didn't have time to talk about one of them, left that to St. Paul. Maybe he thought one was more important than the other. So letting a second stringer run with it indicates it wasn't too crucial. That's a thought.
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Post by general313 on Sept 13, 2019 15:50:40 GMT
Well, in the New Testament Jesus didn't have time to talk about one of them, left that to St. Paul. Maybe he thought one was more important than the other. So letting a second stringer run with it indicates it wasn't too crucial. That's a thought.
One can also go with the count of Bible verses on each topic. There's just a handful about homosexuality, and many dozens on marital infidelity.
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Post by Isapop on Sept 13, 2019 15:59:41 GMT
So letting a second stringer run with it indicates it wasn't too crucial. That's a thought.
One can also go with the count of Bible verses on each topic. There's just a handful about homosexuality, and many dozens on marital infidelity. I wouldn't go with the score count method. After all, blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is only mentioned what, twice?, but that's like the Holy Grail of Sin. It can't be beat.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 13, 2019 16:36:23 GMT
If God regards both adultery and homosexuality as sinful, why shouldn't the monogamous homosexual and the unfaithful heterosexual be equally worried? Well, in the New Testament Jesus didn't have time to talk about one of them, left that to St. Paul. Maybe he thought one was more important than the other. He discusses immorality and/or fornication which encompasses all of them. |
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Post by Isapop on Sept 13, 2019 16:50:44 GMT
Well, in the New Testament Jesus didn't have time to talk about one of them, left that to St. Paul. Maybe he thought one was more important than the other. He discusses immorality and/or fornication which encompasses all of them. That begs the question. www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/53/Begging-the-Question To what degree, if at all, did Jesus mean for homosexuality to be included as immorality was the very question raised.
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Post by thefleetsin on Sept 13, 2019 16:58:21 GMT
journey to the center of the heart
i'm packing,
not like i have ever packed before.
for
before me
lies a door
to
the center of your heart.
me thinks me needs
sturdy boots
and
those metal thingy's you slip between tiny crevices.
securing progresses
betwixt
swinging side to side.
are we guaranteed a smooth ride?
i certainly hope
not.
for these are plots
sacred
and yet to be scaled.
and what we thought were jails
are indeed
sanctuaries of compassion
and
hopes eternal.
for here
the heart is journal,
and i
its pen
fraternal.
sanctuaries of light
shadowed
by
the nocturnal.
sjw 09/13/19 inspired at this very moment in time as the portal chimes within the hearts of the sublime.
from the 'beauty series' of poems
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Post by gameboy on Sept 13, 2019 18:03:02 GMT
It is so slanted to make the liberal look good and the Christian look like an idiot. Any knowledgeable Christian could have easily refuted him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 22:20:04 GMT
It was a show pushing an agenda. Which agenda? Does that make the point made invalid?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 22:28:21 GMT
It is so slanted to make the liberal look good and the Christian look like an idiot. Any knowledgeable Christian could have easily refuted him. I think the point was that some Christians take from the Old Testament what was said about homosexuality as a sin and use it to put that group down; they quote Scripture to reinforce their beliefs/actions. Yet the clip quotes several examples in the OT a few paragraphs away from the quote about homosexuals that those same Christians don't abide by.
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Post by gameboy on Sept 13, 2019 23:42:43 GMT
It is so slanted to make the liberal look good and the Christian look like an idiot. Any knowledgeable Christian could have easily refuted him. I think the point was that some Christians take from the Old Testament what was said about homosexuality as a sin and use it to put that group down; they quote Scripture to reinforce their beliefs/actions. Yet the clip quotes several examples in the OT a few paragraphs away from the quote about homosexuals that those same Christians don't abide by. I'm gay and I'm no fan of Leviticus. But it was such a propaganda piece. I felt sorry for the woman. Lol. But I have my own problem with gay Christians. They will claim that Old Testament laws about homosexuality and eating shrimp don't apply to Christians. Yes, Christ struck down the old Hebrew tribal laws about circumcision and keeping kosher. But Paul in the New Testament also condemns homosexuals. Jesus didn't overturn everything.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 14, 2019 0:10:06 GMT
It was a show pushing an agenda. Like the literature of holy scripture pushing an agenda.
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