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Post by bluerisk on Jun 28, 2020 15:10:03 GMT
C'mon Hamburg, a single goal and I'll have my relegation Nord-derby Bremen vs. HSV.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jun 28, 2020 17:00:51 GMT
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Post by bluerisk on Jun 28, 2020 17:20:38 GMT
I should have known better...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 17:47:07 GMT
Surely the final nail in the coffin for Dietar Hecking's time at Hamburg.....next stop another comedy club in Schalke 04 for the Sam Allardyce/David Moyes clone. That one decent managerial season he had at Wolfsburg many moons ago buys a lot of credit still in 2020 in Germany.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 5, 2020 1:12:04 GMT
Round up: www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jul/04/bayern-munich-win-german-cup-as-buffon-sets-serie-a-appearance-recordBundesliga champions Bayern Munich kept their hopes of a treble alive after beating Bayer Leverkusen 4-2 at the Olympiastadion in Berlin on Saturday to win the German Cup for the 20th time.David Alaba gave Bayern the lead with a free-kick in the 16th minute after Robert Lewandowski was fouled at the edge of the box. Bayern doubled the lead when Joshua Kimmich released Serge Gnabry down the right channel and the winger’s uncontested shot nestled into the bottom corner for the 24-year-old’s 20th goal of the season. Lewandowski made it 3-0 when he let fly a thunderous strike from range straight at Lukas Hradecky and the Finnish goalkeeper fumbled, to give the Polish striker his 50th goal of the season in the 59th minute.Leverkusen opened their account four minutes later when Sven Bender headed home at the far post from a corner kick but it was too little, too late as Lewandowski grabbed a second with a chip over the keeper in the 89th minute. There was late drama when VAR spotted a handball in the box in stoppage time to award Leverkusen a penalty. Kai Havertz’s consolation strike into the top corner proved to be the final kick of the game. In Serie A Cristiano Ronaldo finally scored with a free-kick to help Juventus beat Torino 4-1 in a match in which Gianluigi Buffon set the Serie A appearance record.
Ronaldo scored Juve’s third goal to take his tally to 25 league goals this season, four behind Lazio forward Ciro Immobile who leads the Serie A goalscoring charts. It was the 46th club goal Ronaldo had scored in his career direct from a free-kick but his first in nearly two seasons with Juventus and on his 43rd attempt. He became the first Juventus player since 1961 to score 25 league goals in a season.“We knew it wasn’t going to be easy but we deserved to win,” said Ronaldo. “I was waiting to score on a free-kick, I’m happy, but it’s important to win regardless of who scores. We are improving.” Paulo Dybala and Juan Cuadrado had scored in the first half before Andrea Belotti’s penalty reduced the deficit. Torino defender Koffi Djidji netted an own goal late on. The Turin derby was Buffon’s 648th appearance in Italy’s top flight, moving the 42-year-old keeper one ahead of the Milan great Paolo Maldini, who set the record in 2009.“It wasn’t a problem to wait for the record game: I would have waited even longer, because this is a delicate moment of the season,” said Buffon. “I am well and I can still play at a good level. And if you are enthusiastic, it is right to continue. I think of the future month after month. The Champions League? It is something that buzzes in the head, having often come close.” Buffon had only a couple of saves to make before being beaten by Belotti’s penalty in first-half stoppage time. A good day for Juventus was made even better when second-placed Lazio were beaten 3-0 at home by Milan in the evening kick-off, meaning Juve’s lead is seven points with eight games remaining. Goals by Hakan Calhanoglu, Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Ante Rebic sealed the points for Milan, who leapfrog Napoli into sixth place.In Spain, Celta Vigo were held to a 1-1 draw by Real Betis after the visitors were denied a second-half penalty by VAR. Nolito gave Celta the lead in the first half with a clever free-kick from a tight angle. Betis were awarded a penalty in the second half when Rafinha made contact with Andrés Guardado’s foot as he took his shot at the edge of the box but the referee overturned the decision following a three-minute VAR review. However, Betis were the better side and Zouhair Feddal controlled a deep cross from a set-piece play to fire home the equaliser. Meanwhile, Real Valladolid beat Deportivo Alavés 1-0 in a mid-table clash, while Valencia drew 2-2 at Granada.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Jul 7, 2020 2:48:07 GMT
Last I saw Bremen was up. Did they stave off relegation?
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 7, 2020 5:04:53 GMT
Last I saw Bremen was up. Did they stave off relegation? Yes. Finished 2-2. First leg in Bremen finished 0-0 so they stayed up on the away goals rule.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Jul 7, 2020 11:50:25 GMT
Last I saw Bremen was up. Did they stave off relegation? Yes. Finished 2-2. First leg in Bremen finished 0-0 so they stayed up on the away goals rule. Just saw the highlights. Crazy finish. Cinderella goes home. Is the away goals rule always the first tie breaker in aggregate home and home matches everywhere or are there leagues/comps that let the teams decide on the field ? I assume the rule is in place to help teams stay on the attack. Seems sucky that a team 'loses' when the score is tied after 180 because they scored less away from home. Was/is there any talk of letting ties be decided on the field, maybe allowing advantages to the higher scoring away team such as an extra sub in extra time or an extra penalty if it gets that far?
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 7, 2020 13:14:48 GMT
Yes. Finished 2-2. First leg in Bremen finished 0-0 so they stayed up on the away goals rule. Just saw the highlights. Crazy finish. Cinderella goes home. Is the away goals rule always the first tie breaker in aggregate home and home matches everywhere or are there leagues/comps that let the teams decide on the field ? I assume the rule is in place to help teams stay on the attack. Seems sucky that a team 'loses' when the score is tied after 180 because they scored less away from home. Was/is there any talk of letting ties be decided on the field, maybe allowing advantages to the higher scoring away team such as an extra sub in extra time or an extra penalty if it gets that far? It’s the usual way to decide two-legged ties. It’s always been that way in the Champions League/European Cup, Europa League/ UEFA Cup. I haven’t heard of any changes being proposed. I don’t have any problem with it being used. It’s not always used to decide things though e.g. the English promotion play-offs semi-finals. In that competition an extra period of thirty minutes is played and then penalties if the scores are still level.
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Post by Pangolin on Jul 7, 2020 18:02:18 GMT
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Jul 7, 2020 18:50:05 GMT
Just saw the highlights. Crazy finish. Cinderella goes home. Is the away goals rule always the first tie breaker in aggregate home and home matches everywhere or are there leagues/comps that let the teams decide on the field ? I assume the rule is in place to help teams stay on the attack. Seems sucky that a team 'loses' when the score is tied after 180 because they scored less away from home. Was/is there any talk of letting ties be decided on the field, maybe allowing advantages to the higher scoring away team such as an extra sub in extra time or an extra penalty if it gets that far? It’s the usual way to decide two-legged ties. It’s always been that way in the Champions League/European Cup, Europa League/ UEFA Cup. I haven’t heard of any changes being proposed. I don’t have any problem with it being used. It’s not always used to decide things though e.g. the English promotion play-offs semi-finals. In that competition an extra period of thirty minutes is played and then penalties if the scores are still level. I'd think more fans and players would want the winner decided on the field.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 7, 2020 19:20:55 GMT
It’s the usual way to decide two-legged ties. It’s always been that way in the Champions League/European Cup, Europa League/ UEFA Cup. I haven’t heard of any changes being proposed. I don’t have any problem with it being used. It’s not always used to decide things though e.g. the English promotion play-offs semi-finals. In that competition an extra period of thirty minutes is played and then penalties if the scores are still level. I'd think more fans and players would want the winner decided on the field. It is decided on the field. Teams know the rules before the game starts so ..... It’s harder to score an away goal than a home goal. That’s what the stats show anyway,
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jul 7, 2020 20:09:02 GMT
I'd think more fans and players would want the winner decided on the field. It is decided on the field. Teams know the rules before the game starts so ..... It’s harder to score an away goal than a home goal. That’s what the stats show anyway, I much prefer away goals. It encourages teams to attack and gives coaches less control over the tactics which is never a bad thing. Whenever people do argue for a change, it's based on the fallacy that teams ARE more atracking in two legged contests so you don't need the rule. So basically the argument is that the rule works so we should get rid of it.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 7, 2020 21:36:09 GMT
Juve had the chance to go 10 points clear of Lazio tonight with only seven matches to go, following Lazio's second defeat in succession earlier this evening (2-1 at Lecce.) Things were looking good for Juve as Ronaldo put them 2-0 up in Milan (against Milan) in the 53rd minute. It's all gone horribly wrong since then however; Milan have scored four without reply and lead 4-2 with a couple of minutes to go. www.flashscore.co.uk/match/lWBGsvDo/#match-summaryStill fancy Juve to win their 9th Scudeto on the trot though.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 7, 2020 22:52:45 GMT
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Post by Pangolin on Jul 17, 2020 14:26:38 GMT
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 25, 2020 15:35:50 GMT
It is decided on the field. Teams know the rules before the game starts so ..... It’s harder to score an away goal than a home goal. That’s what the stats show anyway, I much prefer away goals. It encourages teams to attack and gives coaches less control over the tactics which is never a bad thing. Whenever people do argue for a change, it's based on the fallacy that teams ARE more atracking in two legged contests so you don't need the rule. So basically the argument is that the rule works so we should get rid of it. Juventus has won just 1 of the last 5 games and yet the other top 3 in this year's Serie A messed it up too by not winning more than 2 of their last 5 games. What an opportunity lost for Inter, Atlanta and Lazio. Any of those 3 teams could have been leading the league right now if they performed well in the last 5 match days.
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Post by bluerisk on Jul 26, 2020 15:17:54 GMT
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 26, 2020 15:49:48 GMT
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 26, 2020 23:55:22 GMT
I much prefer away goals. It encourages teams to attack and gives coaches less control over the tactics which is never a bad thing. Whenever people do argue for a change, it's based on the fallacy that teams ARE more atracking in two legged contests so you don't need the rule. So basically the argument is that the rule works so we should get rid of it. Juventus has won just 1 of the last 5 games and yet the other top 3 in this year's Serie A messed it up too by not winning more than 2 of their last 5 games. What an opportunity lost for Inter, Atlanta and Lazio. Any of those 3 teams could have been leading the league right now if they performed well in the last 5 match days. They’re champions now though ... for the 9th season in a row. Beat Sampdoria 2-0 on Sunday night to clinch it.
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