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Post by Vits on Sept 14, 2019 18:04:39 GMT
... to fight another villain?
The only example I can think of is X-MEN 2.
In case you're thinking about TERMINATOR 2, I don't think it counts, since Arnold is technically playing a different character.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Sept 14, 2019 18:29:40 GMT
THE FATE OF THE FURIOUS - Jason Statham (The Main Villain from the Previous Movie) teamed up with the Good Guys to fight Charlize Theron.
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN (Dead Man's Chest, At World's End, On Stranger Tides, Dead Men Tell No Tales) - Geoffrey Rush (The Main Villain from the First Movie) joins the Good Guys.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Sept 14, 2019 19:07:50 GMT
Well, Darth Vader stops fighting with his son and kills his boss instead.
Apollo really wasn't a villain, but it was sweet to see him train Rocky. "There is no tomorrow!!"
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Sept 14, 2019 19:08:19 GMT
Spider-Man 3 (Harry is basically already a villain by the end of the second movie)
Like 3 Predator sequels have humans and predators on the same team.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 14, 2019 19:27:29 GMT
Hannibal?
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Post by barfholomew on Sept 14, 2019 20:11:57 GMT
Thor and Loki in Thor: Ragnarock
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Post by wmcclain on Sept 14, 2019 22:04:27 GMT
Clear and Present Danger: Jack Ryan + narco terrorist vs other bad guy
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Post by darkpast on Sept 14, 2019 22:22:23 GMT
maybe Glass
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 15, 2019 1:19:24 GMT
Moonraker
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 15, 2019 1:20:26 GMT
Matrix Revolutions
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 15, 2019 1:21:54 GMT
Spiderman 3?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 1:25:57 GMT
The Last Jedi
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Sept 15, 2019 1:36:19 GMT
That's kinda what they were doing already with Buffalo Bill. |
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Post by dazz on Sept 15, 2019 2:00:28 GMT
Apollo really wasn't a villain, but it was sweet to see him train Rocky. "There is no tomorrow!!"
He is in 2, he's so self absorbed with people questioning his ability he publicy goes about taunting and insulting Rocky to face him despite Rocky retiring in fear of going blind due to the beating Apollo gave him, and his general attitude and demeanour towards Rocky due to Creeds own ego.
THE FATE OF THE FURIOUS - Jason Statham (The Main Villain from the Previous Movie) teamed up with the Good Guys to fight Charlize Theron.
Could you also claim that about any of the Fast films with Dom and Brian working together? or atleast 6 onwards due to Hobbs teaming with Dom and co?
Tranformers Dark of The Moon had Megatron & Optimus team up to kill the other guy then Optimus killed Megatron...again.
Thor Dark World & Ragnarok have Loki teaming with Thor.
Captain America Civil War has Bucky teaming with Cap when he was the villain in Winter Soldier.
Wanda is a member of the Avengers in IW & Endgame when she was Team Ultron for most of Avengers Age Of Ultron.
Nebula face turns midway through GOTG Vol.2 when she was pure villain in GOTG Vol.1.
Batman teams with Superman in JL after planning to and attempting to murder him in BVS.
Snape is a good guy by the end of the Harry Potter series after being a minor villain through most of the series.
Pretty much every X-Men movie I think Age of Apocalypse is the only one where Magneto turns face instead of heel by the final scene however.
Wolverine Origins has Sabertooth & Wolverine team to kill "Deadpool" but this is a prequel so it may not count.
If prequels count then SW Episodes 1-2 has Anakin a good guy in them.
Does TLJ count because Kylo killed Snoke then he and Rey took out the guards or does his remaining heel nullify this?
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Post by Vits on Sept 16, 2019 17:56:03 GMT
Well, Darth Vader stops fighting with his son and kills his boss instead. I think in order for it to count as a team-up they would have to fight together. Spider-Man 3 (Harry is basically already a villain by the end of the second movie) Nah, HARRY began as a good person. When he teams up with PETER, it's because he has become good again; not because he's a villain following the "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality. Like 3 Predator sequels have humans and predators on the same team. Which ones? Thor and Loki in Thor: Ragnarock Yes. Clear and Present Danger: Jack Ryan + narco terrorist vs other bad guy But, if I remember correctly, the narco terrorist didn't appear in PATRIOT GAMES. No, that one has 2 villains teaming up against the hero. I don't remember who teams up with who in these 2 examples. If prequels count then SW Episodes 1-2 has Anakin a good guy in them.
Does TLJ count because Kylo killed Snoke then he and Rey took out the guards or does his remaining heel nullify this?
Do you mean REY and KYLO? That lasts so short that it doesn't feel like it should count (at least to me). That's kinda what they were doing already with Buffalo Bill. I was about to say that. Also, one could argue that it doesn't count as a team-up since LECTER doesn't choose on his own to help CLARISSE. Tranformers Dark of The Moon had Megatron & Optimus team up to kill the other guy then Optimus killed Megatron...again.
Thor Dark World & Ragnarok have Loki teaming with Thor.
Captain America Civil War has Bucky teaming with Cap when he was the villain in Winter Soldier.
Wanda is a member of the Avengers in IW & Endgame when she was Team Ultron for most of Avengers Age Of Ultron.
Nebula face turns midway through GOTG Vol.2 when she was pure villain in GOTG Vol.1.
Batman teams with Superman in JL after planning to and attempting to murder him in BVS.
Snape is a good guy by the end of the Harry Potter series after being a minor villain through most of the series.
Pretty much every X-Men movie I think Age of Apocalypse is the only one where Magneto turns face instead of heel by the final scene however.
Wolverine Origins has Sabertooth & Wolverine team to kill "Deadpool" but this is a prequel so it may not count.
1) Yes. 2) Yes. 3) But BUCKY first appeared as a good person in THE 1ST AVENGER, was brainwashed into being evil, and then "woke up." 4) WANDA is a good person tricked into fighting against the heroes, but she was never a villain. When she joined THE AVENGERS. 5) NEBULA counts as an example only in GUARDIANS VOL. 2, because she still seems to have evil tendencies. In INFINITY WAR, she transitions, and in ENDGAME she's an official hero. 6) BATMAN isn't a villain. He's a hero who thought SUPERMAN was a threat. 7) SNAPE was always a hero who pretended to villain. Also, as far as I remember, he never fought with the heroes in the same battle. 8) Well, I already mentioned X-MEN 2. Every subsequent movie that does the same thing with MAGNETO is kind of just repeating the idea. 9) It does count. Regardless of the chronology, it's using characters who appeared in previous installments. 10) ANAKIN is a different case. He doesn't start out as a villain, while SABERTOOTH does.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 16, 2019 18:00:51 GMT
Well, Darth Vader stops fighting with his son and kills his boss instead. I think in order for it to count as a team-up they would have to fight together. Spider-Man 3 (Harry is basically already a villain by the end of the second movie) Nah, HARRY began as a good person. When he teams up with PETER, it's because he has become good again; not because he's a villain following the "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality. Like 3 Predator sequels have humans and predators on the same team. Which ones? Thor and Loki in Thor: Ragnarock Yes. Clear and Present Danger: Jack Ryan + narco terrorist vs other bad guy But, if I remember correctly, the narco terrorist didn't appear in PATRIOT GAMES. No, that one has 2 villains teaming up against the hero. I don't remember who teams up with who in these 2 examples. If prequels count then SW Episodes 1-2 has Anakin a good guy in them.
Does TLJ count because Kylo killed Snoke then he and Rey took out the guards or does his remaining heel nullify this?
Do you mean REY and KYLO? That lasts so short that it doesn't feel like it should count (at least to me). That's kinda what they were doing already with Buffalo Bill. I was about to say that. Also, one could argue that it doesn't count as a team-up since LECTER doesn't choose on his own to help CLARISSE. Tranformers Dark of The Moon had Megatron & Optimus team up to kill the other guy then Optimus killed Megatron...again.
Thor Dark World & Ragnarok have Loki teaming with Thor.
Captain America Civil War has Bucky teaming with Cap when he was the villain in Winter Soldier.
Wanda is a member of the Avengers in IW & Endgame when she was Team Ultron for most of Avengers Age Of Ultron.
Nebula face turns midway through GOTG Vol.2 when she was pure villain in GOTG Vol.1.
Batman teams with Superman in JL after planning to and attempting to murder him in BVS.
Snape is a good guy by the end of the Harry Potter series after being a minor villain through most of the series.
Pretty much every X-Men movie I think Age of Apocalypse is the only one where Magneto turns face instead of heel by the final scene however.
Wolverine Origins has Sabertooth & Wolverine team to kill "Deadpool" but this is a prequel so it may not count.
1) Yes. 2) Yes. 3) But BUCKY first appeared as a good person in THE 1ST AVENGER, was brainwashed into being evil, and then "woke up." 4) WANDA is a good person tricked into fighting against the heroes, but she was never a villain. When she joined THE AVENGERS. 5) NEBULA counts as an example only in GUARDIANS VOL. 2, because she still seems to have evil tendencies. In INFINITY WAR, she transitions, and in ENDGAME she's an official hero. 6) BATMAN isn't a villain. He's a hero who thought SUPERMAN was a threat. 7) SNAPE was always a hero who pretended to villain. Also, as far as I remember, he never fought with the heroes in the same battle. 8) Well, I already mentioned X-MEN 2. Every subsequent movie that does the same thing with MAGNETO is kind of just repeating the idea. 9) It does count. Regardless of the chronology, it's using characters who appeared in previous installments. 10) ANAKIN is a different case. He doesn't start out as a villain, while SABERTOOTH does. Harry was the bad guy in 2 as well. He became good as a result of amnesia, became bad, and only became good again when he had nothing to avenge. He was not an anti-hero. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 16, 2019 18:02:13 GMT
Matrix Revolutions - Neo teams up with the machines to beat Smith and to save Zion.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Sept 16, 2019 18:25:16 GMT
The last two Xmen films, Magneto teams up with Xavier to fight the Sentinels and Apocalypse.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Sept 16, 2019 18:49:05 GMT
Well, Darth Vader stops fighting with his son and kills his boss instead. I think in order for it to count as a team-up they would have to fight together. Spider-Man 3 (Harry is basically already a villain by the end of the second movie) Nah, HARRY began as a good person. When he teams up with PETER, it's because he has become good again; not because he's a villain following the "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality. Like 3 Predator sequels have humans and predators on the same team. Which ones? Thor and Loki in Thor: Ragnarock Yes. Clear and Present Danger: Jack Ryan + narco terrorist vs other bad guy But, if I remember correctly, the narco terrorist didn't appear in PATRIOT GAMES. No, that one has 2 villains teaming up against the hero. I don't remember who teams up with who in these 2 examples. If prequels count then SW Episodes 1-2 has Anakin a good guy in them.
Does TLJ count because Kylo killed Snoke then he and Rey took out the guards or does his remaining heel nullify this?
Do you mean REY and KYLO? That lasts so short that it doesn't feel like it should count (at least to me). That's kinda what they were doing already with Buffalo Bill. I was about to say that. Also, one could argue that it doesn't count as a team-up since LECTER doesn't choose on his own to help CLARISSE. Tranformers Dark of The Moon had Megatron & Optimus team up to kill the other guy then Optimus killed Megatron...again.
Thor Dark World & Ragnarok have Loki teaming with Thor.
Captain America Civil War has Bucky teaming with Cap when he was the villain in Winter Soldier.
Wanda is a member of the Avengers in IW & Endgame when she was Team Ultron for most of Avengers Age Of Ultron.
Nebula face turns midway through GOTG Vol.2 when she was pure villain in GOTG Vol.1.
Batman teams with Superman in JL after planning to and attempting to murder him in BVS.
Snape is a good guy by the end of the Harry Potter series after being a minor villain through most of the series.
Pretty much every X-Men movie I think Age of Apocalypse is the only one where Magneto turns face instead of heel by the final scene however.
Wolverine Origins has Sabertooth & Wolverine team to kill "Deadpool" but this is a prequel so it may not count.
1) Yes. 2) Yes. 3) But BUCKY first appeared as a good person in THE 1ST AVENGER, was brainwashed into being evil, and then "woke up." 4) WANDA is a good person tricked into fighting against the heroes, but she was never a villain. When she joined THE AVENGERS. 5) NEBULA counts as an example only in GUARDIANS VOL. 2, because she still seems to have evil tendencies. In INFINITY WAR, she transitions, and in ENDGAME she's an official hero. 6) BATMAN isn't a villain. He's a hero who thought SUPERMAN was a threat. 7) SNAPE was always a hero who pretended to villain. Also, as far as I remember, he never fought with the heroes in the same battle. 8) Well, I already mentioned X-MEN 2. Every subsequent movie that does the same thing with MAGNETO is kind of just repeating the idea. 9) It does count. Regardless of the chronology, it's using characters who appeared in previous installments. 10) ANAKIN is a different case. He doesn't start out as a villain, while SABERTOOTH does. But in the second film, Harry teams up with Doc Ock to murder Spider-Man. That's pretty villainous. AvP, Predators, The Predator. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 16, 2019 19:01:31 GMT
In Moonraker Jaws becomes a good guy because he fell in love.
I just saw Moonraker for the first time last week.
It was kinda dumb.
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