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Post by shannondegroot on Sept 18, 2019 5:14:23 GMT
do you make sure in your head that what they said was definitely ironic and not coincidence ?
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Post by kls on Sept 18, 2019 9:16:06 GMT
Lol, I guess I so.
The Alanis Morissette song by that name isn't one I got into because I'm saying to myself that's not ironic, that's a list of things that would be bummers.
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Post by someguy on Sept 18, 2019 15:52:58 GMT
Lol, I guess I so. The Alanis Morissette song by that name isn't one I got into because I'm saying to myself that's not ironic, that's a list of things that would be bummers. The fact that a song called "Ironic" misused the word was, in itself, ironic. The question is, was that irony intentional? |
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Post by Catman 猫的主人 on Sept 18, 2019 16:22:56 GMT
Catman thinks of 'The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings' of Futurama where Bender keeps pointing out that people are mislabeling things as ironic.
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 18, 2019 18:33:11 GMT
Yes, mostly. I admit it's a pet peeve.
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on Sept 18, 2019 21:54:33 GMT
I always think of irony in terms of situational irony, where something is contradictory or defies your normal expectations. For example, somebody who professes to be a devout Christian yet is known to smoke, drink and use foul language. Or a strict vegetarian who happens to be a cattle rancher. Speaking of which, some grocery stores were stocking that Beyond Meat product (a plant-based meat substitute) in the meat department of the store. I found that ironic.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 18, 2019 21:57:12 GMT
I can tell right away.
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Post by Schwarzwald Magnus on Sept 18, 2019 22:01:03 GMT
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 18, 2019 22:08:58 GMT
That's both a skill and a gift you have there! Go Paul, Go! Do you think that he was able to incorporate an element of irony into his, for lack of a better word, image?
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Post by kls on Sept 18, 2019 22:12:06 GMT
I always think of irony in terms of situational irony, where something is contradictory or defies your normal expectations. For example, somebody who professes to be a devout Christian yet is known to smoke, drink and use foul language. Or a strict vegetarian who happens to be a cattle rancher. Speaking of which, some grocery stores were stocking that Beyond Meat product (a plant-based meat substitute) in the meat department of the store. I found that ironic. I'm not really sure why a devout Christian couldn't drink (unless we're talking to excess) or use foul language (unless it's taking the Lord's name in vain or insulting someone/speaking in anger).
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 18, 2019 22:18:27 GMT
That's both a skill and a gift you have there! Go Paul, Go! Do you think that he was able to incorporate an element of irony into his, for lack of a better word, image? Absolutely. Paul Lynde never publicly said he was gay, but he also never hid it nor with a wink and a nod. And people loved him anyway. He was in the vanguard of gay acceptance.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 18, 2019 22:22:09 GMT
I always think of irony in terms of situational irony, where something is contradictory or defies your normal expectations. For example, somebody who professes to be a devout Christian yet is known to smoke, drink and use foul language. Or a strict vegetarian who happens to be a cattle rancher. Speaking of which, some grocery stores were stocking that Beyond Meat product (a plant-based meat substitute) in the meat department of the store. I found that ironic. I'm not really sure why a devout Christian couldn't drink (unless we're talking to excess) or use foul language (unless it's taking the Lord's name in vain or insulting someone/speaking in anger). That’s what I think. Maybe if the Christian is a teetotaler, prudish scold and then gets catch. Ironic joke: How many Baptists do you take fishing?
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 18, 2019 22:28:16 GMT
That's both a skill and a gift you have there! Go Paul, Go! Do you think that he was able to incorporate an element of irony into his, for lack of a better word, image? Absolutely. Paul Lynde never publicly said he was gay, but he also never hid it nor with a wink and a nod. And people loved him anyway. He was in the vanguard of gay acceptance. Nice! I think it would have been hard to not be attracted to the guy's character. Paul might have had a mean streak in him, but if he did, it was because he was acutely aware of all those social proprieties that looked him square in the face every day of his life. And he did it all with a unique sense of humor that was truly hilarious and spot on! I would have always picked the center square! Every time!
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on Sept 18, 2019 22:45:24 GMT
I always think of irony in terms of situational irony, where something is contradictory or defies your normal expectations. For example, somebody who professes to be a devout Christian yet is known to smoke, drink and use foul language. Or a strict vegetarian who happens to be a cattle rancher. Speaking of which, some grocery stores were stocking that Beyond Meat product (a plant-based meat substitute) in the meat department of the store. I found that ironic. I'm not really sure why a devout Christian couldn't drink ( unless we're talking to excess) or use foul language ( unless it's taking the Lord's name in vain or insulting someone/speaking in anger).
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Sept 19, 2019 0:20:50 GMT
I admit it's a pet peeve. For me also. 9 times out of 10 (at least) it's just coincidence. I think people just like saying "ironic".
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Post by gameboy on Sept 19, 2019 2:17:07 GMT
I always think of irony in terms of situational irony, where something is contradictory or defies your normal expectations. For example, somebody who professes to be a devout Christian yet is known to smoke, drink and use foul language. Or a strict vegetarian who happens to be a cattle rancher. Speaking of which, some grocery stores were stocking that Beyond Meat product (a plant-based meat substitute) in the meat department of the store. I found that ironic. I wouldn't call it ironic that they stock the fake meat with the real meat. It's designed to look like meat and compete with meat.
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 19, 2019 3:31:00 GMT
I admit it's a pet peeve. For me also. 9 times out of 10 (at least) it's just coincidence. I think people just like saying "ironic". I really never use the word "coincidence" except to state that I don't use the word. I agree that people overuse the word irony. I love the word, love what it can mean, but I treat it with awe, respect and admiration -- for special occasions only!
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Sept 19, 2019 3:57:14 GMT
For me also. 9 times out of 10 (at least) it's just coincidence. I think people just like saying "ironic". I really never use the word "coincidence" except to state that I don't use the word. I agree that people overuse the word irony. I love the word, love what it can mean, but I treat it with awe, respect and admiration -- for special occasions only! Exactly, I think people like the idea of discovering/finding something ironic that it gets overused.
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on Sept 19, 2019 4:19:29 GMT
I always think of irony in terms of situational irony, where something is contradictory or defies your normal expectations. For example, somebody who professes to be a devout Christian yet is known to smoke, drink and use foul language. Or a strict vegetarian who happens to be a cattle rancher. Speaking of which, some grocery stores were stocking that Beyond Meat product (a plant-based meat substitute) in the meat department of the store. I found that ironic. I wouldn't call it ironic that they stock the fake meat with the real meat. It's designed to look like meat and compete with meat.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 19, 2019 4:33:46 GMT
Do any of these quotations use the words irony or ironic correctly ?
A:
"Linda, are you aware that George Washington and Princess Diana were related?
Ironic, isn't it?"
B:
"It's ironic that Garbo retired from films just as Ingrid Bergman's star was rapidly rising."
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"A bit ironic that Jane Powell shared the same birth date as Debbie Reynolds and they both appeared in a movie musical (HIT THE DECK) in the '50's."
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"Ironically, Raymond Burr originally auditioned for the part of DA Hamilton Burger, but Erle Stanley Gardner, who wrote the Perry Mason novels, sat in on Burr's audition and exclaimed that Burr would be perfect as Mason."
Definition of Irony
the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
"“Don't go overboard with the gratitude,” he rejoined with heavy irony"
synonyms:
sarcasm · sardonicism · dryness · causticity · sharpness · acerbity · acid ·
a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.
"the irony is that I thought he could help me"
synonyms:
paradox · paradoxical nature · incongruity · incongruousness · peculiarity
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