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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 21, 2019 0:36:29 GMT
What’s it going to be based on? And when has making a healthy profit from Conquering for Christ not been a thing? I think it's going to be based on global harmony and having the so-called "good life," but it won't affect me because I'll be dead and out of it. I also that Babylon might be the name used to identify Capitalism, and Babylon is going to take a fall. I think it's going to be based on global harmony and having the so-called "good life,"
That can be done without a dogmatic hierarchy.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2019 0:38:49 GMT
I think it's going to be based on global harmony and having the so-called "good life," but it won't affect me because I'll be dead and out of it. I also that Babylon might be the name used to identify Capitalism, and Babylon is going to take a fall. I think it's going to be based on global harmony and having the so-called "good life,"
That can be done without a dogmatic hierarchy. On that I must disagree. I think it will have to be brutally enforced, and it will be.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 21, 2019 0:40:02 GMT
I think it's going to be based on global harmony and having the so-called "good life,"
That can be done without a dogmatic hierarchy. On that I must disagree. I think it will have to be brutally enforced, and it will be. Why?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2019 0:52:01 GMT
On that I must disagree. I think it will have to be brutally enforced, and it will be. Why? Um....for the rather obvious reason that many people won't swing into it. I won't swing into it. I don't even like living in the world as it is now. Do you suppose that I'll be happy living in a world set up by sick Luciferian madmen?
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 21, 2019 1:34:49 GMT
Um....for the rather obvious reason that many people won't swing into it. I won't swing into it. I don't even like living in the world as it is now. Do you suppose that I'll be happy living in a world set up by sick Luciferian madmen? world set up by sick Luciferian madmen?Maybe this is your depression speaking here. There’s no reason the world will be any more “Luciferian” than it has been up to this point. I think Nietzsche once said, “I got to do something about this syphilis.” Actually, he said observing the continental fin de siècle, we have to go through the Death of God thing before we can come out to the other side of being true individualists within a collective society. We use religion as an escape from boredom and a pit of resentment and self-flagellation, turning it to an ideology rather than use it to experience spiritual growth and connection to the cosmos. From his era, he thought it would take about 200 years...we’re over half way through it. “There will be wars such as there have never been on earth. Only after me will there be grand politics.” — Ecco Homo
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2019 2:36:04 GMT
Um....for the rather obvious reason that many people won't swing into it. I won't swing into it. I don't even like living in the world as it is now. Do you suppose that I'll be happy living in a world set up by sick Luciferian madmen? world set up by sick Luciferian madmen?Maybe this is your depression speaking here. There’s no reason the world will be any more “Luciferian” than it has been up to this point. I think Nietzsche once said, “I got to do something about this syphilis.” Actually, he said observing the continental fin de siècle, we have to go through the Death of God thing before we can come out to the other side of being true individualists within a collective society. We use religion as an escape from boredom and a pit of resentment and self-flagellation, turning it to an ideology rather than use it to experience spiritual growth and connection to the cosmos. From his era, he thought it would take about 200 years...we’re over half way through it. “There will be wars such as there have never been on earth. Only after me will there be grand politics.” — Ecco Homo It's not depression. I've had depression before and this isn't it. Luciferians do sign their work, but they sign it in such a way that someone unschooled in their language can look at it and never see it. I'm only beginning to learn how they communicate. Of course, you don't have to believe that and you probably won't. I find it odd that you're even interested in what I think and why I think it. Why can't you just call me the standard set of names (fundamentalist evangelical rightwing Christian paranoid conspiracy theorist) and leave it at that?
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 21, 2019 3:21:58 GMT
world set up by sick Luciferian madmen?Maybe this is your depression speaking here. There’s no reason the world will be any more “Luciferian” than it has been up to this point. I think Nietzsche once said, “I got to do something about this syphilis.” Actually, he said observing the continental fin de siècle, we have to go through the Death of God thing before we can come out to the other side of being true individualists within a collective society. We use religion as an escape from boredom and a pit of resentment and self-flagellation, turning it to an ideology rather than use it to experience spiritual growth and connection to the cosmos. From his era, he thought it would take about 200 years...we’re over half way through it. “There will be wars such as there have never been on earth. Only after me will there be grand politics.” — Ecco Homo It's not depression. I've had depression before and this isn't it. Luciferians do sign their work, but they sign it in such a way that someone unschooled in their language can look at it and never see it. I'm only beginning to learn how they communicate. Of course, you don't have to believe that and you probably won't. I find it odd that you're even interested in what I think and why I think it. Why can't you just call me the standard set of names (fundamentalist evangelical rightwing Christian paranoid conspiracy theorist) and leave it at that? Luciferians do sign their work, but they sign it in such a way that someone unschooled in their language can look at it and never see it.
Give me example. And if we think in biblical-mythological terms, if it weren’t for Lucifer, we still be in the dark as none of us would be here...except for Adam and Eve.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2019 3:47:16 GMT
It's not depression. I've had depression before and this isn't it. Luciferians do sign their work, but they sign it in such a way that someone unschooled in their language can look at it and never see it. I'm only beginning to learn how they communicate. Of course, you don't have to believe that and you probably won't. I find it odd that you're even interested in what I think and why I think it. Why can't you just call me the standard set of names (fundamentalist evangelical rightwing Christian paranoid conspiracy theorist) and leave it at that? Luciferians do sign their work, but they sign it in such a way that someone unschooled in their language can look at it and never see it.
Give me example. And if we think in biblical-mythological terms, if it weren’t for Lucifer, we still be in the dark as none of us would be here...except for Adam and Eve. Here's the example that you asked for and about which you will say it proves nothing. So why am I posting it? I'm posting it because maybe (just maybe) someone out there who isn't dead above the neck will see it and awaken. 
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Post by mslo79 on Sept 21, 2019 21:37:45 GMT
The truth is, Mary (Jesus Christ's mother here on earth) is a virgin. anything else is a lie from the secular world doing anything to twist/destroy Christianity. there is simply no way the Catholic church (which is the church Jesus Christ started with Peter (Matthew 16 : 18) and it went down through the generations til today. list of Popes from Peter to date... www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm ) would make a error like that. you see a bunch of BS on TV over the years like say on History channel claiming there is 'new info' on this or that on Christianity which is BS as your not suddenly going to "discover" something major about it that contradicts tradition etc passed down through the generations. The Herald Erjen Yeah, but that's what the godless left does. it just shows you Christianity is the real one as satan does not care about the others much as he wants to destroy Christianity (and more specifically Catholic) since it's the true religion. but like I always post... "If I were not a Catholic, and were looking for the true Church in the world today, I would look for the one Church which did not get along well with the world; in other words, I would look for the Church which the world hated. My reason for doing this would be, that if Christ is in any one of the churches of the world today, He must still be hated as He was when He was on earth in the flesh. If you would find Christ today, then find the Church that does not get along with the world. Look for the Church that is hated by the world as Christ was hated by the world. Look for the Church that is accused of being behind the times, as our Lord was accused of being ignorant and never having learned. Look for the Church which men sneer at as socially inferior, as they sneered at Our Lord because He came from Nazareth. Look for the Church which is accused of having a devil, as Our Lord was accused of being possessed by Beelzebub, the Prince of Devils. Look for the Church which, in seasons of bigotry, men say must be destroyed in the name of God as men crucified Christ and thought they had done a service to God. Look for the Church which the world rejects because it claims it is infallible, as Pilate rejected Christ because He called Himself the Truth. Look for the Church which is rejected by the world as Our Lord was rejected by men. Look for the Church which amid the confusions of conflicting opinions, its members love as they love Christ, and respect its Voice as the very voice of its Founder, and the suspicion will grow, that if the Church is unpopular with the spirit of the world, then it is unworldly, and if it is unworldly it is other worldly. since it is other-worldly, it is infinitely loved and infinitely hated as was Christ Himself. But only that which is Divine can be infinitely hated and infinitely loved. Therefore the Church is Divine." - Fulton J Sheen (1895-1979) it's not surprising why the godless left gives Islam a pass but attacks Christianity as the following quote pretty much sums up Islam... "Islam is inseparable from Muhammad. If Muhammad was a false prophet who presented a false picture of Jesus, then Islam, despite whatever truths it contains, is a false religion." ; so we can see why the godless left (at least those in power on the left tend to mostly be this type) gives Islam a pass because it's pretty much inline with them in that they both don't like Christianity because it's the truth and they hate the truth.
But we are not the ones who promote what's bad under the guise of "rights" like the godless left does with abortion/euthanasia/gay agenda etc etc.
also, while your claim about Jesus with love and compassion is true, you can't simply ignore sin like it's no big deal. because many seem to have this twisted view of Christianity to where you can pretty much do whatever you want and as long as you believe in Jesus your automatically going to Heaven, but it does not work that way. repenting of ones sins is important if one is going to have a decent chance of reaching Heaven.
p.s. plus, you rebel against Christianity which is pretty much at the core of the USA which made it such a great place. but nowadays the godless left can't stand it. shows you where their hearts are.
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Post by You_Got_A_Stew_Goin_Baby on Sept 21, 2019 21:39:59 GMT
Jews and Christians call god Yahweh, Jehovah, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit instead of the correct name, Allah.
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Post by goz on Sept 21, 2019 21:42:46 GMT
The truth is, Mary (Jesus Christ's mother here on earth) is a virgin. anything else is a lie from the secular world doing anything to twist/destroy Christianity. there is simply no way the Catholic church (which is the church Jesus Christ started with Peter (Matthew 16 : 18) and it went down through the generations til today. list of Popes from Peter to date... www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm ) would make a error like that. you see a bunch of BS on TV over the years like say on History channel claiming there is 'new info' on this or that on Christianity which is BS as your not suddenly going to "discover" something major about it that contradicts tradition etc passed down through the generations. The Herald Erjen Yeah, but that's what the godless left does. it just shows you Christianity is the real one as satan does not care about the others much as he wants to destroy Christianity (and more specifically Catholic) since it's the true religion. but like I always post... "If I were not a Catholic, and were looking for the true Church in the world today, I would look for the one Church which did not get along well with the world; in other words, I would look for the Church which the world hated. My reason for doing this would be, that if Christ is in any one of the churches of the world today, He must still be hated as He was when He was on earth in the flesh. If you would find Christ today, then find the Church that does not get along with the world. Look for the Church that is hated by the world as Christ was hated by the world. Look for the Church that is accused of being behind the times, as our Lord was accused of being ignorant and never having learned. Look for the Church which men sneer at as socially inferior, as they sneered at Our Lord because He came from Nazareth. Look for the Church which is accused of having a devil, as Our Lord was accused of being possessed by Beelzebub, the Prince of Devils. Look for the Church which, in seasons of bigotry, men say must be destroyed in the name of God as men crucified Christ and thought they had done a service to God. Look for the Church which the world rejects because it claims it is infallible, as Pilate rejected Christ because He called Himself the Truth. Look for the Church which is rejected by the world as Our Lord was rejected by men. Look for the Church which amid the confusions of conflicting opinions, its members love as they love Christ, and respect its Voice as the very voice of its Founder, and the suspicion will grow, that if the Church is unpopular with the spirit of the world, then it is unworldly, and if it is unworldly it is other worldly. since it is other-worldly, it is infinitely loved and infinitely hated as was Christ Himself. But only that which is Divine can be infinitely hated and infinitely loved. Therefore the Church is Divine." - Fulton J Sheen (1895-1979) it's not surprising why the godless left gives Islam a pass but attacks Christianity as the following quote pretty much sums up Islam... "Islam is inseparable from Muhammad. If Muhammad was a false prophet who presented a false picture of Jesus, then Islam, despite whatever truths it contains, is a false religion." ; so we can see why the godless left (at least those in power on the left tend to mostly be this type) gives Islam a pass because it's pretty much inline with them in that they both don't like Christianity because it's the truth and they hate the truth. p.s. Fulton Sheen will likely be declared a Saint eventually... catholicherald.co.uk/news/2019/07/06/archbishop-fulton-sheen-to-be-beatified/ (July 2019 article) Please stop talking about 'the truth' as if you either knew what that term meant or how to apply it. Your personal views are NOT a universal truth, no matter how much you wish it. It is arrogant in the extreme to presume so.
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Post by mslo79 on Sept 21, 2019 21:54:44 GMT
You_Got_A_Stew_Goin_Baby God = The Holy Trinity (Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit) allah on the other hand = satan, the father of lies. choose wisely  p.s. you can see which side the godless left sides with... satan as they give a pass to Islam but rebel against Christianity. goz
our core disagreement is... God = universal truth. you reject this reality. so right off the start you got a distorted view of reality.
so it's arrogant for the world to claim they know more about God than the Catholic church which is the true church of Jesus Christ. God makes the rules, not humanity which has a fallen nature which don't see right/wrong properly anymore. but you reject this core truth, so your already in error right off the start. so these are not simply my personal views, but much of what I say about morality is inline with the official teachings of the Catholic church and it's simply not possible for a random person to know more about God than the Catholic church (since it's the one Jesus Christ Himself started with Peter) as those who claim they do it's simply what you accused me of... pride/arrogance. p.s. God is universal truth as He created everything that exists and He creates the rules. so it's either you get inline with them (which is best for everyone in the long term) or rebel against them like satan did and pay the ultimately price (i.e. hell). without God, there is no real truth as things would be left for humanity to make up as they go along and you can see where that's getting humanity as the more they rebel against God, the worse things tend to get as it's just a natural effect of sin in the world. sin destroys.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 21, 2019 22:06:47 GMT
But we are not the ones who promote what's bad under the guise of "rights" like the godless left does with abortion/euthanasia/gay agenda etc etc.
Oh, bless your heart. Like nearly two thousand years of religious wars; burning heretics and “witches”at the stake; converting millions via the sword of the Crusaders, then Conquistadors; subjugating women; suppressing science and free thought; and opposing basic human rights; “we’re” so godless. Speak for yourself, honey.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 21, 2019 22:08:55 GMT
The truth is, Mary (Jesus Christ's mother here on earth) is a virgin. anything else is a lie from the secular world doing anything to twist/destroy Christianity. there is simply no way the Catholic church (which is the church Jesus Christ started with Peter (Matthew 16 : 18) and it went down through the generations til today. list of Popes from Peter to date... www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm ) would make a error like that. you see a bunch of BS on TV over the years like say on History channel claiming there is 'new info' on this or that on Christianity which is BS as your not suddenly going to "discover" something major about it that contradicts tradition etc passed down through the generations. The Herald Erjen Yeah, but that's what the godless left does. it just shows you Christianity is the real one as satan does not care about the others much as he wants to destroy Christianity (and more specifically Catholic) since it's the true religion. but like I always post... "If I were not a Catholic, and were looking for the true Church in the world today, I would look for the one Church which did not get along well with the world; in other words, I would look for the Church which the world hated. My reason for doing this would be, that if Christ is in any one of the churches of the world today, He must still be hated as He was when He was on earth in the flesh. If you would find Christ today, then find the Church that does not get along with the world. Look for the Church that is hated by the world as Christ was hated by the world. Look for the Church that is accused of being behind the times, as our Lord was accused of being ignorant and never having learned. Look for the Church which men sneer at as socially inferior, as they sneered at Our Lord because He came from Nazareth. Look for the Church which is accused of having a devil, as Our Lord was accused of being possessed by Beelzebub, the Prince of Devils. Look for the Church which, in seasons of bigotry, men say must be destroyed in the name of God as men crucified Christ and thought they had done a service to God. Look for the Church which the world rejects because it claims it is infallible, as Pilate rejected Christ because He called Himself the Truth. Look for the Church which is rejected by the world as Our Lord was rejected by men. Look for the Church which amid the confusions of conflicting opinions, its members love as they love Christ, and respect its Voice as the very voice of its Founder, and the suspicion will grow, that if the Church is unpopular with the spirit of the world, then it is unworldly, and if it is unworldly it is other worldly. since it is other-worldly, it is infinitely loved and infinitely hated as was Christ Himself. But only that which is Divine can be infinitely hated and infinitely loved. Therefore the Church is Divine." - Fulton J Sheen (1895-1979) it's not surprising why the godless left gives Islam a pass but attacks Christianity as the following quote pretty much sums up Islam... "Islam is inseparable from Muhammad. If Muhammad was a false prophet who presented a false picture of Jesus, then Islam, despite whatever truths it contains, is a false religion." ; so we can see why the godless left (at least those in power on the left tend to mostly be this type) gives Islam a pass because it's pretty much inline with them in that they both don't like Christianity because it's the truth and they hate the truth. But we are not the ones who promote what's bad under the guise of "rights" like the godless left does with abortion/euthanasia/gay agenda etc etc. also, while your claim about Jesus with love and compassion is true, you can't simply ignore sin like it's no big deal. because many seem to have this twisted view of Christianity to where you can pretty much do whatever you want and as long as you believe in Jesus your automatically going to Heaven, but it does not work that way. repenting of ones sins is important if one is going to have a decent chance of reaching Heaven. p.s. plus, you rebel against Christianity which is pretty much at the core of the USA which made it such a great place. but nowadays the godless left can't stand it. shows you where their hearts are.
 I guess she told us.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 21, 2019 22:11:39 GMT
You_Got_A_Stew_Goin_Baby God = The Holy Trinity (Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit) allah on the other hand = satan, the father of lies. choose wisely  p.s. you can see which side the godless left sides with... satan as they give a pass to Islam but rebel against Christianity. goz
our core disagreement is... God = universal truth. you reject this reality. so right off the start you got a distorted view of reality.
so it's arrogant for the world to claim they know more about God than the Catholic church which is the true church of Jesus Christ. God makes the rules, not humanity which has a fallen nature which don't see right/wrong properly anymore. but you reject this core truth, so your already in error right off the start. so these are not simply my personal views, but much of what I say about morality is inline with the official teachings of the Catholic church and it's simply not possible for a random person to know more about God than the Catholic church (since it's the one Jesus Christ Himself started with Peter) as those who claim they do it's simply what you accused me of... pride/arrogance. p.s. God is universal truth as He created everything that exists and He creates the rules. so it's either you get inline with them (which is best for everyone in the long term) or rebel against them like satan did and pay the ultimately price (i.e. hell). without God, there is no real truth as things would be left for humanity to make up as they go along and you can see where that's getting humanity as the more they rebel against God, the worse things tend to get as it's just a natural effect of sin in the world. sin destroys. God = universal truth. This is an extraordinary claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. And so far, you got nothing.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 21, 2019 22:19:01 GMT
Luciferians do sign their work, but they sign it in such a way that someone unschooled in their language can look at it and never see it.
Give me example. And if we think in biblical-mythological terms, if it weren’t for Lucifer, we still be in the dark as none of us would be here...except for Adam and Eve. Here's the example that you asked for and about which you will say it proves nothing. So why am I posting it? I'm posting it because maybe (just maybe) someone out there who isn't dead above the neck will see it and awaken.  
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Post by You_Got_A_Stew_Goin_Baby on Sept 21, 2019 23:16:46 GMT
You_Got_A_Stew_Goin_Baby God = The Holy Trinity (Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit) allah on the other hand = satan, the father of lies. choose wisely  p.s. you can see which side the godless left sides with... satan as they give a pass to Islam but rebel against Christianity. goz
our core disagreement is... God = universal truth. you reject this reality. so right off the start you got a distorted view of reality.
so it's arrogant for the world to claim they know more about God than the Catholic church which is the true church of Jesus Christ. God makes the rules, not humanity which has a fallen nature which don't see right/wrong properly anymore. but you reject this core truth, so your already in error right off the start. so these are not simply my personal views, but much of what I say about morality is inline with the official teachings of the Catholic church and it's simply not possible for a random person to know more about God than the Catholic church (since it's the one Jesus Christ Himself started with Peter) as those who claim they do it's simply what you accused me of... pride/arrogance. p.s. God is universal truth as He created everything that exists and He creates the rules. so it's either you get inline with them (which is best for everyone in the long term) or rebel against them like satan did and pay the ultimately price (i.e. hell). without God, there is no real truth as things would be left for humanity to make up as they go along and you can see where that's getting humanity as the more they rebel against God, the worse things tend to get as it's just a natural effect of sin in the world. sin destroys. Following false prophets...typical of Christian infidels.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 21, 2019 23:55:12 GMT
Here's the example that you asked for and about which you will say it proves nothing. So why am I posting it? I'm posting it because maybe (just maybe) someone out there who isn't dead above the neck will see it and awaken.   They Live is one of my favourite films. It manages to be daft and profound at the same time.
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Post by goz on Sept 22, 2019 4:27:23 GMT
You_Got_A_Stew_Goin_Baby God = The Holy Trinity (Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit) allah on the other hand = satan, the father of lies. choose wisely  p.s. you can see which side the godless left sides with... satan as they give a pass to Islam but rebel against Christianity. goz
our core disagreement is... God = universal truth. you reject this reality. so right off the start you got a distorted view of reality.
so it's arrogant for the world to claim they know more about God than the Catholic church which is the true church of Jesus Christ. God makes the rules, not humanity which has a fallen nature which don't see right/wrong properly anymore. but you reject this core truth, so your already in error right off the start. so these are not simply my personal views, but much of what I say about morality is inline with the official teachings of the Catholic church and it's simply not possible for a random person to know more about God than the Catholic church (since it's the one Jesus Christ Himself started with Peter) as those who claim they do it's simply what you accused me of... pride/arrogance. p.s. God is universal truth as He created everything that exists and He creates the rules. so it's either you get inline with them (which is best for everyone in the long term) or rebel against them like satan did and pay the ultimately price (i.e. hell). without God, there is no real truth as things would be left for humanity to make up as they go along and you can see where that's getting humanity as the more they rebel against God, the worse things tend to get as it's just a natural effect of sin in the world. sin destroys. As previously stated, all that is merely your personal opinion. My personal opinion is the there is no God,(nor Satan) let alone a universal truth associated with God, as it is all man made and fictitious. There is no such thing as 'sin' owing to there being no objective moral code, and the Catholic Church has a long history of hypocritical violence and causing great harm in the world and is now proven to be corrupt. You have no proof that there is a God, ridiculous alleged 'miracles' notwithstanding, and therefore your claims are easily negated with logic and science.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 22, 2019 4:31:39 GMT
It is true. Big difference between being a young woman and a virgin. the terms aren’t interchangeable. There are young women who are virgins. Mary wasn’t once she got boned by Joseph to make Baby Jesus.
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