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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 22, 2019 19:04:27 GMT
Lol. That's always the ultimate answer isn't it? Only when we have earlier texts, and linguistic academics show there to be issues with modern interpretations. You seem to fail to appreciate the fact that there was no word for Mary's state.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 22, 2019 19:06:18 GMT
You do. They are not interchangeable. One does not exclude the other. It is possible to be both.
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Post by kls on Sept 22, 2019 19:55:12 GMT
It does now. It has been mistranslated or deliberately altered from the original. Where does Mary's confusion how she could be pregnant come from? Is that also deliberately altered or mistranslated (along with the angel explaining to Joseph how Mary came to be with the Child)? I'd be interested in an answer to ths
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 22, 2019 23:34:33 GMT
Thou shalt not kill vs Thou shalt not murder is a huge difference (when it comes to which word should be used). Semantics k
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Post by kls on Sept 22, 2019 23:38:02 GMT
Thou shalt not kill vs Thou shalt not murder is a huge difference (when it comes to which word should be used). Semantics k I respectfully disagree. The term murder indicates there are circumstances where it would be permissible to take a life and others where it wouldn't be. Kill is much more restrictive.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 22, 2019 23:41:05 GMT
I respectfully disagree. The term murder indicates there are circumstances where it would be permissible to take a life and others where it wouldn't be. Kill is much more restrictive. Murder is more a legality, it still involves killing. The intention is key, but still one and the same. Does a soldier who goes to war murder or kill?
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Post by kls on Sept 22, 2019 23:44:36 GMT
I respectfully disagree. The term murder indicates there are circumstances where it would be permissible to take a life and others where it wouldn't be. Kill is much more restrictive. Murder is more a legality, it still involves killing. The intention is key, but still one and the same. Does a soldier who goes to war murder or kill? It would be killing if he followed the laws of international warfare.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 22, 2019 23:49:00 GMT
Murder is more a legality, it still involves killing. The intention is key, but still one and the same. Does a soldier who goes to war murder or kill? It would be killing if he followed the laws of international warfare. A law is based on semantics and self-serving agendas. Going to war and the act killing, is still no different to murdering ones opponent, just because a law tells us it’s suddenly legal.
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Post by kls on Sept 22, 2019 23:52:06 GMT
It would be killing if he followed the laws of international warfare. A law is based on semantics and self-serving agendas. Going to war and the act killing, is still no different to murdering ones opponent, just because a law tells us it’s suddenly legal. I'm speaking of one of God's commandments. Call it semantics, but one is more restrictive than the other. I don't know what else to say.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 22, 2019 23:55:35 GMT
A law is based on semantics and self-serving agendas. Going to war and the act killing, is still no different to murdering ones opponent, just because a law tells us it’s suddenly legal. I'm speaking of one of God's commandments. Call it semantics, but one is more restrictive than the other. I don't know what else to say. God’s commandments??? If anything, the whole debacle surrounding God and its word/law is selective semantics, hence the the point of this thread.
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