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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 12:17:22 GMT
Mary wasn't a virgin... The Hebrew term for 'young woman', was mistranslated in Matthew to 'virgin'.
Jesus' 'slaves' (doulos), was mistranslated as followers.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 20, 2019 12:29:12 GMT
Mary wasn't a virgin... The Hebrew term for 'young woman', was mistranslated in Matthew to 'virgin'. Jesus' 'slaves' (doulos), was mistranslated as followers. Do you ever go around trying to debunk Hinduism or Buddhism? You clowns seem to want Christianity gone, but you leave the others alone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 12:31:33 GMT
Mary wasn't a virgin... The Hebrew term for 'young woman', was mistranslated in Matthew to 'virgin'. Jesus' 'slaves' (doulos), was mistranslated as followers. Do you ever go around trying to debunk Hinduism or Buddhism? Â You clowns seem to want Christianity gone, but you leave the others alone. I'm a Roman Catholic, as you know... I attended Mass this morning. I always do on a Friday, it's the day of the week the Jews had our lord crucified. I'm not trying to debunk anything, just pointing out reality... The Bible contains many now known mistranslations. No point pretending it doesn't.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 20, 2019 12:37:55 GMT
Do you ever go around trying to debunk Hinduism or Buddhism? You clowns seem to want Christianity gone, but you leave the others alone. I'm a Roman Catholic, as you know... I attended Mass this morning. I always do on a Friday, it's the day of the week the Jews had our lord crucified. I'm not trying to debunk anything, just pointing out reality. No, I didn't know. Pope Francis is a Roman Catholic too, but it doesn't mean he has his head screwed on straight.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 12:39:32 GMT
I'm a Roman Catholic, as you know... I attended Mass this morning. I always do on a Friday, it's the day of the week the Jews had our lord crucified. I'm not trying to debunk anything, just pointing out reality. No, I didn't know. Pope Francis is a Roman Catholic too, but it doesn't mean he has his head screwed on straight. His Holiness is a good man. Still doesn't change that Mary was a young woman, not a virgin.
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Post by CoolJGS⺠on Sept 20, 2019 13:02:08 GMT
Mary wasn't a virgin... The Hebrew term for 'young woman', was mistranslated in Matthew to 'virgin'. Jesus' 'slaves' (doulos), was mistranslated as followers. even if that were true regarding the word it still would not mean she wasnât a virgin.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 13:03:15 GMT
Mary wasn't a virgin... The Hebrew term for 'young woman', was mistranslated in Matthew to 'virgin'. Jesus' 'slaves' (doulos), was mistranslated as followers. even if that were true regarding the word it still would not mean she wasnât a virgin. It is true. Big difference between being a young woman and a virgin.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 20, 2019 13:07:51 GMT
even if that were true regarding the word it still would not mean she wasnât a virgin. It is true. Big difference between being a young woman and a virgin. Never the less the Marian doctrine whether or not one accept this of course depends on whether one is the, er, Marian kind.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 20, 2019 13:10:49 GMT
Mary wasn't a virgin... The Hebrew term for 'young woman', was mistranslated in Matthew to 'virgin'. Jesus' 'slaves' (doulos), was mistranslated as followers. While 666 is called the "number of the beast" in most manuscripts of Revelation 13:18 a fragment of the earliest papyrus 115 gives the number as 616. But then a lot of the devoutly-challenged have never let the fruits of biblical scholarship get in the way of a good story.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 13:18:55 GMT
Mary wasn't a virgin... The Hebrew term for 'young woman', was mistranslated in Matthew to 'virgin'. Jesus' 'slaves' (doulos), was mistranslated as followers. While 666 is called the "number of the beast" in most manuscripts of Revelation 13:18 a fragment of the earliest papyrus 115 gives the number as 616. But then a lot of the devoutly-challenged have never let the fruits of biblical scholarship get in the way of a good story. You try explaining to Jews and fundos why the propaganda version of Exodus in the Bible is wrong, present them with the archaeological evidence, and they tell you satan put fake evidence in the ground to trick you. They're tapped ð
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Post by CoolJGS⺠on Sept 20, 2019 17:31:55 GMT
even if that were true regarding the word it still would not mean she wasnât a virgin. It is true. Big difference between being a young woman and a virgin. the terms arenât interchangeable. There are young women who are virgins.
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Post by koskiewicz on Sept 20, 2019 18:29:20 GMT
I think it depends on which version of the bible the OP is referring to; there are numerous reiterations of the bible From the Affinity Bible all the way down to the Zurich Bible, these translations are filled with mistranslations from the Mazarin (Guttenberg Bible) which was the original printed with movable type. And that doesn't mean that the Mazarin Bible has misquotes as well...
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Post by gameboy on Sept 20, 2019 18:35:22 GMT
Mary wasn't a virgin... The Hebrew term for 'young woman', was mistranslated in Matthew to 'virgin'. Jesus' 'slaves' (doulos), was mistranslated as followers. While 666 is called the "number of the beast" in most manuscripts of Revelation 13:18 a fragment of the earliest papyrus 115 gives the number as 616. But then a lot of the devoutly-challenged have never let the fruits of biblical scholarship get in the way of a good story. I have 616 tattooed on my forehead. The confusion between 616 and 666 has never bothered me.
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Post by CoolJGS⺠on Sept 20, 2019 19:23:21 GMT
Mary wasn't a virgin... The Hebrew term for 'young woman', was mistranslated in Matthew to 'virgin'. Jesus' 'slaves' (doulos), was mistranslated as followers. doulos can be followers since it can refer to voluntary slavery and can be figurative. The leaders of the church are called slave or servant and Christians are encouraged to be slaves to God as opposed to the devil.
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Post by maya55555 on Sept 20, 2019 19:32:13 GMT
Mary wasn't a virgin... The Hebrew term for 'young woman', was mistranslated in Matthew to 'virgin'. Jesus' 'slaves' (doulos), was mistranslated as followers. Do you ever go around trying to debunk Hinduism or Buddhism? You clowns seem to want Christianity gone, but you leave the others alone. The "Boardies", do not know a thing about Hinduism and Buddhism to mock it. You are giving them too much credit!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 19:36:24 GMT
Mary wasn't a virgin... The Hebrew term for 'young woman', was mistranslated in Matthew to 'virgin'. Jesus' 'slaves' (doulos), was mistranslated as followers. doulos can be followers since it can refer to voluntary slavery and can be figurative. The leaders of the church are called slave or servant and Christians are encouraged to be slaves to God as opposed to the devil. Voluntary slavery? Yeah, that's not a thing.
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Post by maya55555 on Sept 20, 2019 19:49:10 GMT
Kindly explain.
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Post by CoolJGS⺠on Sept 20, 2019 19:58:00 GMT
doulos can be followers since it can refer to voluntary slavery and can be figurative. The leaders of the church are called slave or servant and Christians are encouraged to be slaves to God as opposed to the devil. Voluntary slavery? Yeah, that's not a thing. of course it is. But letâs pretend there isnât that would just mean that the word means more than slavery. You may want to avoid discussing mistranslations without understanding the meaning of the words you have issues with. None of these have been controversial.
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Post by CoolJGS⺠on Sept 20, 2019 20:00:01 GMT
Mary wasn't a virgin... The Hebrew term for 'young woman', was mistranslated in Matthew to 'virgin'. Jesus' 'slaves' (doulos), was mistranslated as followers. While 666 is called the "number of the beast" in most manuscripts of Revelation 13:18 a fragment of the earliest papyrus 115 gives the number as 616. But then a lot of the devoutly-challenged have never let the fruits of biblical scholarship get in the way of a good story. If true, it would only matter to the extent that the other manuscripts copies that particular one. Otherwise age of manuscripts is only one aspect of doing an accurate copy and translation.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 20, 2019 20:07:30 GMT
While 666 is called the "number of the beast" in most manuscripts of Revelation 13:18 a fragment of the earliest papyrus 115 gives the number as 616. But then a lot of the devoutly-challenged have never let the fruits of biblical scholarship get in the way of a good story. If true, it would only matter to the extent that the other manuscripts copies that particular one. Otherwise age of manuscripts is only one aspect of doing an accurate copy and translation. It is usual practice for textual scholars to seek the earliest documents available as they are likely to be closer to the original source. Incidentally this recalls the problems associated with the Gospels none of which are primary documents and which appear to have been originally written in Greek. In that case many scholars have suggested a shared original source called 'Q'. No doubt should Q ever surface it would reveal similar inaccuracies as well as laying bare the various edits and interpolations in the surviving text.
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