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Post by shannondegroot on Sept 23, 2019 20:15:29 GMT
Why does God hate Tattoos?
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Post by Catman 猫的主人 on Sept 23, 2019 20:17:34 GMT
Catman saw a female goldfinch sitting on the sidewalk in front of a tattoo parlor this morning.
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Post by amyghost on Sept 23, 2019 20:36:04 GMT
In the Jewish faith, the body is the temple of god and to mutilate it deliberately in any way is a desecration and profanation of the image of its' creator.
I'm not saying I necessarily accept this myself, but it is Orthodox law. I have no tattoos myself, but it's out of personal aesthetic preference, not religious scruples.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 23, 2019 21:18:28 GMT
Dunno. Ask him.  |
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 23, 2019 21:19:05 GMT
In the Jewish faith, the body is the temple of god and to mutilate it deliberately in any way is a desecration and profanation of the image of its' creator. I'm not saying I necessarily accept this myself, but it is Orthodox law. I have no tattoos myself, but it's out of personal aesthetic preference, not religious scruples. Can Jewish women get them?
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Post by mikef6 on Sept 23, 2019 22:06:10 GMT
Don't know the reason
Stayed here all season
Nothing to show but this brand new tattoo
But it's a real beauty
A Mexican cutie
How it got here I haven't a clue
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 23, 2019 22:23:57 GMT
In the Jewish faith, the body is the temple of god and to mutilate it deliberately in any way is a desecration and profanation of the image of its' creator. This can't be entirely true or there would be no circumcision.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 24, 2019 10:37:36 GMT
In the Jewish faith, the body is the temple of god and to mutilate it deliberately in any way is a desecration and profanation of the image of its' creator. I'm not saying I necessarily accept this myself, but it is Orthodox law. I have no tattoos myself, but it's out of personal aesthetic preference, not religious scruples. Not necessarily true since they circumcised men and there was an occasional piercing. The real answer is tattoos were linked to false worship and improper honoring of the dead.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 11:09:01 GMT
Didn't know he does 🤷♀️
He hates people who cut their hair, or wear clothes of different fabrics at the same time though.
He also hates rich people, and people who aren't meek, or peacemakers.
Nothing about tattoos though.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 24, 2019 11:24:36 GMT
Didn't know he does 🤷♀️ He hates people who cut their hair, or wear clothes of different fabrics at the same time though. He also hates rich people, and people who aren't meek, or peacemakers. Nothing about tattoos though. He loves poor meek warriors?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 11:29:11 GMT
Didn't know he does 🤷♀️ He hates people who cut their hair, or wear clothes of different fabrics at the same time though. He also hates rich people, and people who aren't meek, or peacemakers. Nothing about tattoos though. He loves poor meek warriors? Re-read it. He loves peacemakers, hates warriors 😉 |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 24, 2019 11:42:22 GMT
He loves poor meek warriors? Re-read it. He loves peacemakers, hates warriors 😉 He also hates rich people, and people who aren't meek, or peacemakers. I have re-read but you have clarified .
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Post by amyghost on Sept 24, 2019 11:52:13 GMT
In the Jewish faith, the body is the temple of god and to mutilate it deliberately in any way is a desecration and profanation of the image of its' creator. I'm not saying I necessarily accept this myself, but it is Orthodox law. I have no tattoos myself, but it's out of personal aesthetic preference, not religious scruples. Can Jewish women get them? Nope. Those rules apply to both sexes. If you wish to be buried in a Jewish cemetery under Jewish rites, they're a no-no, be you Orthodox or reform.
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Post by amyghost on Sept 24, 2019 11:55:59 GMT
In the Jewish faith, the body is the temple of god and to mutilate it deliberately in any way is a desecration and profanation of the image of its' creator. This can't be entirely true or there would be no circumcision. No. Jews believe circumcision to be mandated by god, and thus exempt from the dictates regarding bodily mutilation. www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/judaism/jewishethics/circumcision_1.shtmlJudaism and circumcision
Circumcision is an initiation rite for Jewish newborn babies. This usually takes place in a ceremony called a Brit (or Bris) milah witnessed by family and community members. Milah is Hebrew for Covenant of Circumcision.
The ritual is an ancient practice that has been carried out by Jewish parents for more than 3,000 years.
Such is the importance of Brit milah that circumcision can take place on the Sabbath or a holy day even though the drawing of blood is not normally allowed on these days under Jewish law.
According to the Torah (Genesis 17: 9-14), Abraham was commanded by God to circumcise himself, all male members of his household, his descendants and slaves in an everlasting covenant.
This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your descendants after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised. You shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you. He that is eight days old among you shall be circumcised; every male throughout your generations, whether born in your house, or bought with your money from any foreigner who is not of your offspring.
Under Jewish law, failure to follow the commandment given to Abraham incurs the penalty of karet (being cut off from the rest of the community of God).
The Torah (Genesis 16:14) also says: "Any uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreksin shall be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant."
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Post by amyghost on Sept 24, 2019 12:21:54 GMT
In the Jewish faith, the body is the temple of god and to mutilate it deliberately in any way is a desecration and profanation of the image of its' creator. I'm not saying I necessarily accept this myself, but it is Orthodox law. I have no tattoos myself, but it's out of personal aesthetic preference, not religious scruples. Not necessarily true since they circumcised men and there was an occasional piercing. The real answer is tattoos were linked to false worship and improper honoring of the dead. Circumcision, as I explained above, is exempted from the notion of bodily mutilation by being a direct commandment of god to Abraham. It had nothing to do with the ideas of 'false' worship or necrophiliac cults. Piercings of any kind have always been frowned upon in traditional Jewish law, although there are instances of it mentioned in the Torah, such as the nose ring gifted to Rebecca by Abraham's servant Eliezer in the Book of Genesis. There are a few instances also mentioned in the Torah which indicate that ornamental piercing was practiced by Hebrew men and women; and it's mentioned as a fairly commonplace practice in the Talmud. This article: www.myjewishlearning.com/article/can-a-jew-get-body-piercings/states that neither piercings or tattoos preclude burial in a Jewish cemetery, but I'm personally acquainted with several instances where it was denied on those grounds. Modern rabbinical interpretations have relaxed some of the rules regarding ornamental ear piercing, but bodily piercings are still frowned upon, though some now see it as an act of adornment rather than desecratory. This article gives a pretty good recent account of a Conservative Jewish funerary symposium on tattooing, which effectively decided that it remains a prohibited act overall: www.jewish-funerals.org/tattooing-and-body-piercing/Generally speaking, it's safe to assume that both practices, piercing and tattooing, remain largely outside the pale for the majority of Orthodox and Conservative Jews.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Sept 24, 2019 12:22:31 GMT
My reason for getting tattoos is simple.
If I'm going to be spending lots of time in a room I'm going to put some stuff up on the walls.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 24, 2019 16:59:11 GMT
This can't be entirely true or there would be no circumcision. No. Jews believe circumcision to be mandated by god, and thus exempt from the dictates regarding bodily mutilation. www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/judaism/jewishethics/circumcision_1.shtmlJudaism and circumcision
Circumcision is an initiation rite for Jewish newborn babies. This usually takes place in a ceremony called a Brit (or Bris) milah witnessed by family and community members. Milah is Hebrew for Covenant of Circumcision.
The ritual is an ancient practice that has been carried out by Jewish parents for more than 3,000 years.
Such is the importance of Brit milah that circumcision can take place on the Sabbath or a holy day even though the drawing of blood is not normally allowed on these days under Jewish law.
According to the Torah (Genesis 17: 9-14), Abraham was commanded by God to circumcise himself, all male members of his household, his descendants and slaves in an everlasting covenant.
This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your descendants after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised. You shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you. He that is eight days old among you shall be circumcised; every male throughout your generations, whether born in your house, or bought with your money from any foreigner who is not of your offspring.
Under Jewish law, failure to follow the commandment given to Abraham incurs the penalty of karet (being cut off from the rest of the community of God).
The Torah (Genesis 16:14) also says: "Any uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreksin shall be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant." I can only speak for myself but I have always thought that the mutilation of the genitals of those who cannot give consent (children) for ritual purposes is something which will eventually need looking at.
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Post by maya55555 on Sept 24, 2019 20:18:28 GMT
Most of the prohibitions listed in Torah, concern establishing an identity for the Hebrew people. Tattoos were common in Ancient Egypt, and were viewed as idolatrous by the Hebrews. This also includes the casting of spells and magic. www.ancient.eu/article/1000/tattoos-in-ancient-egypt/Also, there is the prohibition of shedding the "life force", i.e. blood. Face it tattoos do involve the shedding of blood. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 1:17:52 GMT
God loves Tattoo. He has him as a new sidekick who points to the sky and says "De plane boss, de plane".
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Post by amyghost on Sept 25, 2019 12:53:14 GMT
No. Jews believe circumcision to be mandated by god, and thus exempt from the dictates regarding bodily mutilation. www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/judaism/jewishethics/circumcision_1.shtmlJudaism and circumcision
Circumcision is an initiation rite for Jewish newborn babies. This usually takes place in a ceremony called a Brit (or Bris) milah witnessed by family and community members. Milah is Hebrew for Covenant of Circumcision.
The ritual is an ancient practice that has been carried out by Jewish parents for more than 3,000 years.
Such is the importance of Brit milah that circumcision can take place on the Sabbath or a holy day even though the drawing of blood is not normally allowed on these days under Jewish law.
According to the Torah (Genesis 17: 9-14), Abraham was commanded by God to circumcise himself, all male members of his household, his descendants and slaves in an everlasting covenant.
This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your descendants after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised. You shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you. He that is eight days old among you shall be circumcised; every male throughout your generations, whether born in your house, or bought with your money from any foreigner who is not of your offspring.
Under Jewish law, failure to follow the commandment given to Abraham incurs the penalty of karet (being cut off from the rest of the community of God).
The Torah (Genesis 16:14) also says: "Any uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreksin shall be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant."I can only speak for myself but I have always thought that the mutilation of the genitals of those who cannot give consent (children) for ritual purposes is something which will eventually need looking at. I don't necessarily disagree with you on that, but as of the present, believing Jews don't consider it to be in the category of bodily mutilation or desecration that's forbidden in the Torah. The practice is held to be a direct command from god by them. I'm not a practicing Jew myself, and don't hold with the taboos and ritual practices put forth by the religion, but I can't ignore that they exist either, whatever my opinion of them.
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