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Post by koskiewicz on Sept 25, 2019 19:17:48 GMT
Because my Dad told me that only criminals and sailors are the only people that get them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 23:13:57 GMT
Because my Dad told me that only criminals and sailors are the only people that get them. Wow, your dad is God!!! Are you JC or a sibling?
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Post by Pep Streebeck on Sept 26, 2019 11:29:10 GMT
I know that god hates war, and god hates crime - but he really hates people who color outside the lines.
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Post by maya55555 on Sept 26, 2019 13:18:45 GMT
Are you referring to sloppy tattoo artists?
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Post by Vegas on Sept 26, 2019 13:23:23 GMT
I heard at some protest that God hates figs... …At least, that what I think they were yelling.  |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Sept 26, 2019 13:54:08 GMT
I know that god hates war, and god hates crime - but he really hates people who color outside the lines. I get the Dead Milkmen reference friend! Great band.
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Post by Zos on Sept 26, 2019 14:07:04 GMT
Cos only wankers have them?
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Post by Pep Streebeck on Sept 26, 2019 14:25:10 GMT
I know that god hates war, and god hates crime - but he really hates people who color outside the lines. I get the Dead Milkmen reference friend! Great band. That didn't take long! Thank you. One of my favorites. They were trolling way before the rest of the world caught up.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 27, 2019 23:20:35 GMT
No. Jews believe circumcision to be mandated by god, and thus exempt from the dictates regarding bodily mutilation. www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/judaism/jewishethics/circumcision_1.shtmlJudaism and circumcision
Circumcision is an initiation rite for Jewish newborn babies. This usually takes place in a ceremony called a Brit (or Bris) milah witnessed by family and community members. Milah is Hebrew for Covenant of Circumcision.
The ritual is an ancient practice that has been carried out by Jewish parents for more than 3,000 years.
Such is the importance of Brit milah that circumcision can take place on the Sabbath or a holy day even though the drawing of blood is not normally allowed on these days under Jewish law.
According to the Torah (Genesis 17: 9-14), Abraham was commanded by God to circumcise himself, all male members of his household, his descendants and slaves in an everlasting covenant.
This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your descendants after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised. You shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you. He that is eight days old among you shall be circumcised; every male throughout your generations, whether born in your house, or bought with your money from any foreigner who is not of your offspring.
Under Jewish law, failure to follow the commandment given to Abraham incurs the penalty of karet (being cut off from the rest of the community of God).
The Torah (Genesis 16:14) also says: "Any uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreksin shall be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant."I can only speak for myself but I have always thought that the mutilation of the genitals of those who cannot give consent (children) for ritual purposes is something which will eventually need looking at. Circumcision is reversible.
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Post by You_Got_A_Stew_Goin_Baby on Sept 27, 2019 23:26:45 GMT
Cause they’re gay, and god hates gays.
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Post by onethreetwo on Sept 28, 2019 5:22:12 GMT
Maybe someone already said it, but that was the old law. I'm fairly certain there's nothing in the new testament forbidding tattoos.
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Post by fatpaul on Sept 28, 2019 10:42:51 GMT
Why does God hate Tattoos? Does anyone really like watching a bunch of military types marching up and down wailing on bagpipes? Nah just kidding, Military tatoos are frickin awesome!
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 28, 2019 16:54:05 GMT
I can only speak for myself but I have always thought that the mutilation of the genitals of those who cannot give consent (children) for ritual purposes is something which will eventually need looking at. Circumcision is reversible. There's apparently help too for the victims of FGM but that does not make it right. time.com/4707899/victims-of-fgm-see-new-hope-in-life-changing-surgery/
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 28, 2019 18:23:18 GMT
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 28, 2019 22:17:16 GMT
Both can involve non consensual, non essential mutilation or injury of the genitals usually justified by religion, culture and tradition. For instance over 80 percent of Malaysian women claim religious obligation as the primary reason for practising FGM, along with hygiene (41 percent) and cultural practice (32 percent). The practice is widespread among Muslim women in Indonesia, and over 90 percent of Muslim adults supported it as of 2003. This sort of reasoning sound familiar? I would agree that the severity of FGM is usually greater on the individual in effect than that for MGM. However having said that, it is still estimated that approximately 119 infant boys die from circumcision-related each year in the U.S. (1.3% of all male neonatal deaths from all causes). There are several case reports of death in the medical literature. These are deaths from various infections. There is also reason to believe that many deaths from circumcision are attributed to other causes. For example, if a baby were to die of meningitis that was contracted through the circumcision wound, the death may be attributed to meningitis while ignoring the fact that the baby would not have had meningitis if he had not been circumcised. www.cirp.org/library/death/
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 28, 2019 22:39:00 GMT
Both can involve non consensual, non essential mutilation or injury of the genitals usually justified by religion, culture and tradition. For instance over 80 percent of Malaysian women claim religious obligation as the primary reason for practising FGM, along with hygiene (41 percent) and cultural practice (32 percent). The practice is widespread among Muslim women in Indonesia, and over 90 percent of Muslim adults supported it as of 2003. This sort of reasoning sound familiar? I would agree that the severity of FGM is usually greater on the individual in effect than that for MGM. However having said that, it is still estimated that approximately 119 infant boys die from circumcision-related each year in the U.S. (1.3% of all male neonatal deaths from all causes). There are several case reports of death in the medical literature. These are deaths from various infections. There is also reason to believe that many deaths from circumcision are attributed to other causes. For example, if a baby were to die of meningitis that was contracted through the circumcision wound, the death may be attributed to meningitis while ignoring the fact that the baby would not have had meningitis if he had not been circumcised. www.cirp.org/library/death/ That's good enough, thanks. I would agree that third world medical practices, all of them, can be especially hazardous.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 28, 2019 22:54:39 GMT
Both can involve non consensual, non essential mutilation or injury of the genitals usually justified by religion, culture and tradition. For instance over 80 percent of Malaysian women claim religious obligation as the primary reason for practising FGM, along with hygiene (41 percent) and cultural practice (32 percent). The practice is widespread among Muslim women in Indonesia, and over 90 percent of Muslim adults supported it as of 2003. This sort of reasoning sound familiar? I would agree that the severity of FGM is usually greater on the individual in effect than that for MGM. However having said that, it is still estimated that approximately 119 infant boys die from circumcision-related each year in the U.S. (1.3% of all male neonatal deaths from all causes). There are several case reports of death in the medical literature. These are deaths from various infections. There is also reason to believe that many deaths from circumcision are attributed to other causes. For example, if a baby were to die of meningitis that was contracted through the circumcision wound, the death may be attributed to meningitis while ignoring the fact that the baby would not have had meningitis if he had not been circumcised. www.cirp.org/library/death/ That's good enough, thanks. I would agree that third world medical practices, all of them, can be especially hazardous. As you can see though, examples of non-consensual genital mutilation, whether FGM or MGM in being justified by religious reasons and cultural practice a lot of the time are broadly similar after all, and not "totally non comparable" - which is the point. QED.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 28, 2019 23:54:36 GMT
That's good enough, thanks. I would agree that third world medical practices, all of them, can be especially hazardous. As you can see though, examples of non-consensual genital mutilation, whether FGM or MGM in being justified by religious reasons and cultural practice a lot of the time are broadly similar after all, and not "totally non comparable" - which is the point. QED. Hmmm... I wonder if Arlon even knows what QED means? Q.E.D.
Q.E.D. is an initialism of the Latin phrase quod erat demonstrandum, meaning "which is what had to be proven". The phrase is traditionally placed in its abbreviated form at the end of a mathematical proof or philosophical argument when what was specified in the enunciation—and in the setting-out—has been exactly restated as the conclusion of the demonstration.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 29, 2019 0:02:37 GMT
That's good enough, thanks. I would agree that third world medical practices, all of them, can be especially hazardous. As you can see though, examples of non-consensual genital mutilation, whether FGM or MGM in being justified by religious reasons and cultural practice a lot of the time are broadly similar after all, and not "totally non comparable" - which is the point. QED. I suspect you're confusing third world trends with "religion" unfairly. I suspect that's because you assume religion is nothing more than a primitive social phenomenon found only in the third world. I suspect that's because you are not capable of understanding religion, it being far above the plain notions you have of it. You keep telling me I have to accept that stupid people do in fact represent religion and that you may criticize them and religion for it. Then you complain when I point out you are not so smart yourself. I suppose some stupid people think they should represent religion but reject your claim that religion itself is stupid or the cause of their activities. There are plenty of superior scientists who believe in a god and practice religion. Science is totally inadequate to deal with all life's problems as has been explained to you many times in many ways. You will have to give it up. Your war against religion is over and you lost.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 29, 2019 0:12:22 GMT
As you can see though, examples of non-consensual genital mutilation, whether FGM or MGM in being justified by religious reasons and cultural practice a lot of the time are broadly similar after all, and not "totally non comparable" - which is the point. QED. Hmmm... I wonder if Arlon even knows what QED means? Q.E.D.
Q.E.D. is an initialism of the Latin phrase quod erat demonstrandum, meaning "which is what had to be proven". The phrase is traditionally placed in its abbreviated form at the end of a mathematical proof or philosophical argument when what was specified in the enunciation—and in the setting-out—has been exactly restated as the conclusion of the demonstration.
I wonder if you know what "you are not the teacher here" means? I do know what QED means and have long before you came along. I also know what a "straw man" argument is. You have plenty of them. "Oh look, people throwing coins into jet engines for luck! See how stupid religion is!" No religion encourages anyone to throw coins into jet engines for luck. There might be some stupid people who think that is what religion is all about. However there are no documents whatever to support such a view.
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