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Post by CrepedCrusader on Sept 27, 2019 22:44:40 GMT
According to reports, under the new deal, Disney will get 25 gross points (a.k.a. first dollar points) from the profits of the next Spider-Man film, leaving Sony with 75%. Sounds like a good deal for Disney, since Sony is the one footing the bill. But wait, it's an even better deal for Disney than it seems, and they could end up making more than twice the profit that Sony does.
Consider: Let's say the next movie makes $1 billion. Since Disney gets 25% of the gross, Sony has to fork over $250 million right there. But exhibitors (i.e. movie theaters) also need their little taste. It's impossible to get one answer as to how much exhibitors keep, but most figures I've seen say it's about one-third of the gross. That means Sony has to leave another $333 million on the table for the exhibitors. This leaves just $417 million for Sony. But wait, there's more: we haven't figured in the cost of the film. If we assume (quite reasonably, I believe) that the combined production and marketing budget will end up somewhere around $300 million, then that only leaves ~117 million in profits for the company that pays the bills and owns the film rights, compared to $250 million for the company that gave them an assist.
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Post by merh on Sept 28, 2019 2:23:59 GMT
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Post by merh on Sept 28, 2019 5:10:23 GMT
Looks like Disney puts up 25% The movies cost around $300 mill so they spend around $75 mill & Sony $225 (approximately).
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Post by dazz on Sept 28, 2019 7:34:02 GMT
According to reports, under the new deal, Disney will get 25 gross points (a.k.a. first dollar points) from the profits of the next Spider-Man film, leaving Sony with 75%. Sounds like a good deal for Disney, since Sony is the one footing the bill. But wait, it's an even better deal for Disney than it seems, and they could end up making more than twice the profit that Sony does. Consider: Let's say the next movie makes $1 billion. Since Disney gets 25% of the gross, Sony has to fork over $250 million right there. But exhibitors (i.e. movie theaters) also need their little taste. It's impossible to get one answer as to how much exhibitors keep, but most figures I've seen say it's about one-third of the gross. That means Sony has to leave another $333 million on the table for the exhibitors. This leaves just $417 million for Sony. But wait, there's more: we haven't figured in the cost of the film. If we assume (quite reasonably, I believe) that the combined production and marketing budget will end up somewhere around $300 million, then that only leaves ~117 million in profits for the company that pays the bills and owns the film rights, compared to $250 million for the company that gave them an assist. I don't think anything you said is actually right.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Sept 28, 2019 13:02:05 GMT
According to reports, under the new deal, Disney will get 25 gross points (a.k.a. first dollar points) from the profits of the next Spider-Man film, leaving Sony with 75%. Sounds like a good deal for Disney, since Sony is the one footing the bill. But wait, it's an even better deal for Disney than it seems, and they could end up making more than twice the profit that Sony does. Consider: Let's say the next movie makes $1 billion. Since Disney gets 25% of the gross, Sony has to fork over $250 million right there. But exhibitors (i.e. movie theaters) also need their little taste. It's impossible to get one answer as to how much exhibitors keep, but most figures I've seen say it's about one-third of the gross. That means Sony has to leave another $333 million on the table for the exhibitors. This leaves just $417 million for Sony. But wait, there's more: we haven't figured in the cost of the film. If we assume (quite reasonably, I believe) that the combined production and marketing budget will end up somewhere around $300 million, then that only leaves ~117 million in profits for the company that pays the bills and owns the film rights, compared to $250 million for the company that gave them an assist. I don't think anything you said is actually right.
Who are you, my seventh-grade math teacher?
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Post by dazz on Sept 28, 2019 22:20:03 GMT
I don't think anything you said is actually right.
Who are you, my seventh-grade math teacher? I was referring to the theatre's cuts, and where Marvel's cut would come from, also you didn't mention Marvel paying into the movie, or that Marvel also will make shit tons just from movie tie ins which they own full merch and licensing rights to the character, Sony only owns the film and the right to sell and distribute it, still the funniest thing I ever heard is Sony trading away their share of that merch money for Marvels original 5% of the box office, they gave away hundreds of millions to keep hold of at most $55m as of FFH.
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Post by dazz on Sept 28, 2019 22:38:17 GMT
Looks like Disney puts up 25% The movies cost around $300 mill so they spend around $75 mill & Sony $225 (approximately). I think Marvel are only paying into the production not the marketing also, which could limit their cost to all of $40m if FFH is anything to go by, advertising could sky rocket total cost to closer to $350m if Sony's past is anything to go by also, hopefully though the current trent of these films actually being considerably cheaper than the previous movies continue so both studios can make some money, but I wont be surprised if we find of MCU Spidey 3 makes like $1.3B and Sony still don't make a profit because of just how they cannot handle their money properly.
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