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Post by Schwarzwald Magnus on Oct 6, 2019 3:49:57 GMT
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Post by gameboy on Oct 6, 2019 3:59:46 GMT
The United Kingdom never should have relinquished Hong Kong to Beijing. Some sort of agreement could have been made to extend its lease.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 6, 2019 4:03:34 GMT
Good news. Until the bombers show up.
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Post by Schwarzwald Magnus on Oct 6, 2019 12:39:31 GMT
The United Kingdom never should have relinquished Hong Kong to Beijing. Some sort of agreement could have been made to extend its lease. I like that HK is standing on their own feet. They carry Western values.
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Post by gameboy on Oct 6, 2019 14:46:35 GMT
The United Kingdom never should have relinquished Hong Kong to Beijing. Some sort of agreement could have been made to extend its lease. I like that HK is standing on their own feet. They carry Western values. It would have been interesting if the U.K. had given Hong Kong to Taiwan (Republic of China). Of course they would have had first to recognize the Republican of China as legitimate. That's something the West has been too cowardly to do. But that would have most likely led to war. But we must remember that the Peoples' Republic depends on the wealthy Western consumer market. That's leverage we can use. worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-that-recognize-taiwan/
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Post by vegalyra on Oct 6, 2019 15:05:55 GMT
I hope they can make it happen, but Beijing is going to do something desperate before too long. I just hope the world doesn't sit idly by like they did at Tiananmen. If not a military response, immediate sanctions on all Chinese corporations and the dissolution of all joint agreements, as well as being kicked out of the WTO.
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Post by loofapotato on Oct 6, 2019 15:07:44 GMT
The United Kingdom never should have relinquished Hong Kong to Beijing. Some sort of agreement could have been made to extend its lease. One of the reasons why HK was given up were do in part with China's increasingly threatening pressure to closing down fresh water access. HK and all of the New Territories get their fresh water directly from China. Building and operating desalination plants including tranporting fresh water to every island would have been very cost prohibitive if China acted on their threat after the 99 year lease had expired.
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Post by Xcalatë on Oct 6, 2019 17:26:07 GMT
I think it's only a matter of time until China lose patience and invades Hong Kong.
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Post by gameboy on Oct 7, 2019 1:05:04 GMT
I hope they can make it happen, but Beijing is going to do something desperate before too long. I just hope the world doesn't sit idly by like they did at Tiananmen. If not a military response, immediate sanctions on all Chinese corporations and the dissolution of all joint agreements, as well as being kicked out of the WTO. I think this will end in another Tiananmen.
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Post by JHA Durant on Oct 7, 2019 1:22:45 GMT
Hope this works for them!
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Post by gameboy on Oct 7, 2019 1:26:47 GMT
The United Kingdom never should have relinquished Hong Kong to Beijing. Some sort of agreement could have been made to extend its lease. One of the reasons why HK was given up were do in part with China's increasingly threatening pressure to closing down fresh water access. HK and all of the New Territories get their fresh water directly from China. Building and operating desalination plants including tranporting fresh water to every island would have been very cost prohibitive if China acted on their threat after the 99 year lease had expired. That's why I said there should have been a negotiated settlement and an extension on the lease.
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Post by Stammerhead on Oct 7, 2019 8:48:05 GMT
One of the reasons why HK was given up were do in part with China's increasingly threatening pressure to closing down fresh water access. HK and all of the New Territories get their fresh water directly from China. Building and operating desalination plants including tranporting fresh water to every island would have been very cost prohibitive if China acted on their threat after the 99 year lease had expired. That's why I said there should have been a negotiated settlement and an extension on the lease. I wonder if anyone in the UK government ever thought of this and proposed it at a meeting.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Oct 7, 2019 14:28:02 GMT
I think it's only a matter of time until China lose patience and invades Hong Kong.
Exactly. There is no way in hell China is going to let Hong Kong go. Simply not gonna happen.
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Post by loofapotato on Oct 7, 2019 17:59:18 GMT
One of the reasons why HK was given up were do in part with China's increasingly threatening pressure to closing down fresh water access. HK and all of the New Territories get their fresh water directly from China. Building and operating desalination plants including tranporting fresh water to every island would have been very cost prohibitive if China acted on their threat after the 99 year lease had expired. That's why I said there should have been a negotiated settlement and an extension on the lease. How? China was holding the gun to the UK's head. Any more extensive and widened aggreement would've been reneged like what China is doing right now installing puppets into HK's gov't and eroding the 2 gov't system.
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Post by loofapotato on Oct 7, 2019 18:04:31 GMT
China is allowing the protests to continue because they are playing the long game. They are willing to allow HK to spite themselves economically. Eventually the protests will fizz out because there is right now ZERO INTERNATIONAL PRESSURE and ZERO AMERICAN SUPPORT or leadership on the matter. Only 28 more years for full Chinese control.
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Post by gameboy on Oct 7, 2019 18:55:49 GMT
That's why I said there should have been a negotiated settlement and an extension on the lease. I wonder if anyone in the UK government ever thought of this and proposed it at a meeting. Maybe you can enlighten us. But of course this is not a place where we exchange ideas and our knowledge on topics. [eyes] You don't know why I posted this here instead of googling?
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Post by lordquesterjones on Oct 7, 2019 19:16:58 GMT
The United Kingdom never should have relinquished Hong Kong to Beijing. Some sort of agreement could have been made to extend its lease. Yeah. As I've previously stated; all the former colonies we relinquish control of eventually turn to shyte.
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Post by lordquesterjones on Oct 7, 2019 19:19:15 GMT
That's why I said there should have been a negotiated settlement and an extension on the lease. I wonder if anyone in the UK government ever thought of this and proposed it at a meeting. I'll say one thing about our Government: There's a lot of clever people working behind the scenes, and I'm pretty sure that most eventualities have, or are, being considered and discussed.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Oct 7, 2019 19:34:19 GMT
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Post by Power Ranger on Oct 7, 2019 19:43:21 GMT
Good luck with that.
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