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Post by tristramshandy on Oct 8, 2019 15:26:22 GMT
Luke Falk and Josh Rosen.  |
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 8, 2019 15:42:07 GMT
i guess the Cards were right about Rosen  couldn't happen to a nicer guy. i remember what a giant d-bag he was when he was drafted stating all the teams that passed him up made a giant mistake. |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 8, 2019 15:59:16 GMT
i guess the Cards were right about Rosen couldn't happen to a nicer guy. i remember what a giant d-bag he was when he was drafted stating all the teams that passed him up made a giant mistake. Maybe... He is in the worst possible scenario, so you can put it all on him. Not sure if he's a douche or not, but that attitude could help. Rodgers still holds on to all those teams passing on him.
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 8, 2019 16:08:45 GMT
And in QBR, he's behind Falk and Cam. But apparently Dak is #1, so...
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 8, 2019 16:32:30 GMT
And in QBR, he's behind Falk and Cam. But apparently Dak is #1, so... QBR isn't a real stat.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 8, 2019 16:34:22 GMT
i guess the Cards were right about Rosen couldn't happen to a nicer guy. i remember what a giant d-bag he was when he was drafted stating all the teams that passed him up made a giant mistake. Odd comment coming from the guy who loves Mayfield for taking pictures next to a sportscar with a tiger or whatever. I thought you loved theater and brash athletes. Anyway, I have no problem with a guy having confidence in himself. He has to back up the comments of course, but I'm not sure how Rosen's supposed to excel in the situations he's been in so far.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 8, 2019 16:40:44 GMT
On a related note, I'm not one for overreactions but if I Were Cleveland I'd fire Kitchens right now. Surely there has to be someone out there that can at least get this offense on track? There's just too much talent there for them to be this bad. Maybe Mayfield isn't an NFL QB after all, but let's get a real coach in there and find out before they waste an entire season with this slob of a head coach blaming the players for blowout losses.
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 8, 2019 16:49:21 GMT
And in QBR, he's behind Falk and Cam. But apparently Dak is #1, so... QBR isn't a real stat. Neither is QB rating, which actually doesn't exist. Passer rating doesn't change if the QB fumbles 3 times or rushes for a 99 yard TD. It does take a hit if he throws a hail Mary 55 yards to end a half that gets picked off. And it rewards going 3-3 for 50 yards on a drive much more than going 1-3 for the same 50 yards. QBR can be fairly stupid in a few cases, and its lack of transparency is a major issue. But both together give a better picture over the long term than either alone.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 8, 2019 17:01:27 GMT
Neither is QB rating, which actually doesn't exist. Passer rating doesn't change if the QB fumbles 3 times or rushes for a 99 yard TD. It does take a hit if he throws a hail Mary 55 yards to end a half that gets picked off. And it rewards going 3-3 for 50 yards on a drive much more than going 1-3 for the same 50 yards. QBR can be fairly stupid in a few cases, and it's lack of transparency is a major issue. But both together give a better picture over the long term than either alone. You're right that it's passer rating and not QB rating, and that it's not a great metric either. But QBR is nonsense in that they don't disclose how it's calculated and that it's owned by one network, which is fucking stupid as hell. |
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Post by klawrencio79 on Oct 8, 2019 17:20:36 GMT
Neither is QB rating, which actually doesn't exist. Passer rating doesn't change if the QB fumbles 3 times or rushes for a 99 yard TD. It does take a hit if he throws a hail Mary 55 yards to end a half that gets picked off. And it rewards going 3-3 for 50 yards on a drive much more than going 1-3 for the same 50 yards. QBR can be fairly stupid in a few cases, and it's lack of transparency is a major issue. But both together give a better picture over the long term than either alone. You're right that it's passer rating and not QB rating, and that it's not a great metric either. But QBR is nonsense in that they don't disclose how it's calculated and that it's owned by one network, which is fucking stupid as hell. Where's dystryx when we need him? He'd tell us, correctly so, that a QB can best be measured by the highest number of completions made on 2nd down. Or death163 who, god bless him, would declare that if you were drafted 1st overall, it automatically makes you better than everyone else, and the best anybody else could hope for would be to tie you, vis-a-vis also being drafted 1st. By way of example, Alex Smith is forever tied for being the best QB to ever play the game. Tom Brady doesn't deserve to sniff his shit. To simpler times. And simpler people.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 8, 2019 18:04:23 GMT
You're right that it's passer rating and not QB rating, and that it's not a great metric either. But QBR is nonsense in that they don't disclose how it's calculated and that it's owned by one network, which is fucking stupid as hell. Where's dystryx when we need him? He'd tell us, correctly so, that a QB can best be measured by the highest number of completions made on 2nd down. Or death163 who, god bless him, would declare that if you were drafted 1st overall, it automatically makes you better than everyone else, and the best anybody else could hope for would be to tie you, vis-a-vis also being drafted 1st. By way of example, Alex Smith is forever tied for being the best QB to ever play the game. Tom Brady doesn't deserve to sniff his shit. To simpler times. And simpler people. I'm not sure if I should disappointed or pleased with myself that I don't know who you're talking about. |
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 8, 2019 18:39:29 GMT
i guess the Cards were right about Rosen couldn't happen to a nicer guy. i remember what a giant d-bag he was when he was drafted stating all the teams that passed him up made a giant mistake. Odd comment coming from the guy who loves Mayfield for taking pictures next to a sportscar with a tiger or whatever. I thought you loved theater and brash athletes. Anyway, I have no problem with a guy having confidence in himself. He has to back up the comments of course, but I'm not sure how Rosen's supposed to excel in the situations he's been in so far. I do love theater. The soap opera aspect of an athlete so to speak i.e. Baker, Manziel, Rosen doesn't bring that to the table IMO. His comments screamed to me he was bitter and came off a bit whiny to me. Bitter jaded people are some of the few in life who rub me the wrong way when I typically live by 'live and let live'. It's an ugly personality trait to have IMO.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 8, 2019 20:40:22 GMT
Bitter jaded people are some of the few in life who rub me the wrong way when I typically live by 'live and let live'. So Josh Rosen represents this ever changing world in which we live in, and he makes you give in and cry?
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 8, 2019 20:54:02 GMT
Bitter jaded people are some of the few in life who rub me the wrong way when I typically live by 'live and let live'. So Josh Rosen represents this ever changing world in which we live in, and he makes you give in and cry? Cry? Who's crying. I don't like bitter sarcastic condescending people - i.e. haters. They're drips. Something I've accused you being multiple times.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 8, 2019 21:00:17 GMT
So Josh Rosen represents this ever changing world in which we live in, and he makes you give in and cry? Cry? Who's crying. I don't like bitter sarcastic condescending people - i.e. haters. They're drips. Something I've accused you being multiple times. You have accused me of that. Usually, it's because you don't get the joke. In this case it's a reference to a song. |
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Post by klawrencio79 on Oct 8, 2019 22:09:27 GMT
Where's dystryx when we need him? He'd tell us, correctly so, that a QB can best be measured by the highest number of completions made on 2nd down. Or death163 who, god bless him, would declare that if you were drafted 1st overall, it automatically makes you better than everyone else, and the best anybody else could hope for would be to tie you, vis-a-vis also being drafted 1st. By way of example, Alex Smith is forever tied for being the best QB to ever play the game. Tom Brady doesn't deserve to sniff his shit. To simpler times. And simpler people. I'm not sure if I should disappointed or pleased with myself that I don't know who you're talking about. To remember him is but a blessing and a curse.
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 9, 2019 10:17:36 GMT
Cry? Who's crying. I don't like bitter sarcastic condescending people - i.e. haters. They're drips. Something I've accused you being multiple times. You have accused me of that. Usually, it's because you don't get the joke. Well, you got to give the other fella hell!
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Post by DSDSquared on Oct 9, 2019 12:12:36 GMT
I'm not sure if I should disappointed or pleased with myself that I don't know who you're talking about. To remember him is but a blessing and a curse. I do miss those power rankings. I am sure the Dolphins and Redskins would be #1 and #2 right now somehow.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 9, 2019 14:11:17 GMT
You have accused me of that. Usually, it's because you don't get the joke. Well, you got to give the other fella hell! I guess Treefrogs doesn't have a job to do, se he doesn't have to do it well. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 9, 2019 14:56:41 GMT
Well, you got to give the other fella hell! I guess Treefrogs doesn't have a job to do, se he doesn't have to do it well. He's young and his heart is an open book.
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