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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 9:12:40 GMT
The whole body of James Bond films are like the superhero genre. James bond takes CIA, MIA and the Spy genre seriously. most bond films don't look like theme parks. I love James Bond but they started getting silly in and around Thunderball, which is probably my second to third favorite after From Russia with Love. It really started showing in You Only Live Twice. It came out the franchise was suffocating under relying on gadgets for every situation, effectively culminating with Moonraker being raked over the coals for being silly.
They course-corrected the gadget dependency by getting back to Bond's human side in For Your Eyes Only. It did a decent job and the morale boost survived through Octopussy, but it started getting silly again in A View to Kill.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 19, 2019 14:39:41 GMT
The whole body of James Bond films are like the superhero genre. James bond takes CIA, MIA and the Spy genre seriously. most bond films don't look like theme parks. *MI6* dumbass.
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Post by dazz on Oct 19, 2019 15:46:28 GMT
Except there is backlash, and nobody is trying to take Scorsese down most people are just arguing that MCU movies can co-exist alongside other media and be regarded as cinema because at the end of the day it all is, in fact every time you make a make movie no matter how poor or how good, or how rough or pristine, or meaningful or meaningless the fact that it was staged, recorded, and edited together qualifies it as cinema, good or bad a different topic for another day. is that why he slammed marvel movies again?lol
backlash? he gives no rat ass
attacks mcu again
there is no backlash, the more you people try to create one, the more scorsese slams mcu.
Actually he isn't "slamming" the MCU what he is doing is criticising an entire genre, something obvious by his other complaints that he made alongside the "not cinema" rubbish, such as saying that the "marvel" movies and movie theatres pushing those movies essentially boxed out his movie, now given that the mcu produces at most 3 movies a year, how does a 3 movie a year production box out smaller movies?
Scorsese is rallying against modern movie going and making, he simply says those Marvel movies, because Marvel is the largest brand name in terms of blockbusters, and especially in terms of comic book movies, it's like when someone orders a rum and coke, they don't mean coke, they mean cola, no one spits the drink out and goes wtf that's a rum and pepsi, they may if it's a rum and RC or Panda but that's another issue, they mean cola but say Coke because Coke is the most well known brand, same thing with the MArvel mentions, otherwise you are implying Scorsese is so well aware enough of the differences in these movies he doesn't care for he is what referring to the specific studio, but at the same time not distinguishing them from the former Fox-Marvel films or ongoing Sony-Spidey films? but he's also stupid enough to claim that the 3 movies Marvel produces each year are somehow swallowing up all the theatres all year round?
All of this is also just Marty making excuses as to why he had to go with Netflix for The Irishmen, it's not Marvel or big budget movies fault, it's Scorsese's, he got studio funding initially, $150m but he couldn't keep the film under budget and because despite his skill his movies have never grossed higher than an adjusted amount of $450m, when that budget kept increasing from the already blockbuster amount of $150 they pulled out, so he went to Netflix for $125m and still went $34m over budget, has nothing to do with Marvel and everything to do with him, he's just doing all of this to get free press and try and shift the "blame" for why he had to slum it on a streaming service onto someone else.
You would know this if you didn't already create your own narrative for every topic prior to reading or listening to it you ignorant troll.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Oct 19, 2019 18:27:12 GMT
The whole body of James Bond films are like the superhero genre. James bond takes CIA, MIA and the Spy genre seriously. most bond films don't look like theme parks. Neither do the Marvel films. The point Scorsese is making, I think, is the filmgoers’ experience while watching these films as if one just switches their minds off and feels the movie as you do on a roller coaster. Who entertains profound thoughts on a roller coaster? Marvel, Bond, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Mission Impossible, DC, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Alien, Jaws, ET, etc, all can go under the action genre tent that facilitate the thrill experience. These have been the box office machines long before MCU Captain America. What great moral lesson does Harry Potter teach? What existentialist conundrum does Mission Impossible address? These films are blockbusters invented by guys like Spielberg and Lucas, Scorsese’s contemporaries. I notice he has never dissed their films for over forty years. I actually think the Avengers saga has tapped into something happening within the world zeitgeist as they reflect the anxiety, insanity, irrationality of a very rapidly changing world...a destabilized world that is not changing for the better. Did Marvel deliberately do this? I don’t think so as they are probably experiencing the same deep worry and fear of we have no clue what’s happening next. But who is Thanos but the man with the nuclear launch codes who by the power of his position can wipe us all out if he decides to.
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Oct 21, 2019 4:43:19 GMT
Except there is backlash, and nobody is trying to take Scorsese down most people are just arguing that MCU movies can co-exist alongside other media and be regarded as cinema because at the end of the day it all is, in fact every time you make a make movie no matter how poor or how good, or how rough or pristine, or meaningful or meaningless the fact that it was staged, recorded, and edited together qualifies it as cinema, good or bad a different topic for another day. is that why he slammed marvel movies again?lol
backlash? he gives no rat ass
attacks mcu again
there is no backlash, the more you people try to create one, the more scorsese slams mcu.
Well actually the irony of the situation is that by acting the way that you do around here and on the matter itself you are no different than the people you say are trying to create a backlash against Scorsese, you could be the better person and just ignore this whole thing but you can't help yourself.
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