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Post by petrolino on Apr 22, 2017 23:07:46 GMT
I don't know if its my favorite WS moment, but it is my most sadly surprising WS moment. I remember visiting WS's board, back when the IMDB boards were up. There was this thread where the posters seemed to be generally bashing WS. There was this one post about how WS laughed at DeForest Kelley when his dog died. It seems that back during ST-TOS run, DK had a little dog that he brought with him to work everyday. One day when WS came in, DK was crying and WS asked him what was wrong. DK told him that he had brought his dog to work that day and took him for a walk that morning. The dog apparently hit a sprinkler head and was killed and that's why DK was crying. Instead of showing sympathy for his costar's grief, WS laughed in DK's face and told him, his dog had not been a real dog anyway. When I read this in the post on the WS site I thought this could not possibly have happened. This was just someone WS bashing. But, then I found out there was an actual clip of WS on you tube telling this very story. I found the clip. So, I was surprised and saddened to find out that WS had treated DK that way. I could see how one might find the story amusing, but I know I wouldn't laugh in someone's face who was crying and told me they just lost a beloved pet. I would have respect for their feelings. This is not the original clip that I found some time ago, but WS tells the story here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKGj3CmYjGIMaybe DK got a little revenge on WS for laughing at him before: ( See: Deforest's habits- the English muffin story): startrek.ehabich.info/shatner2.htmHere in U K, I remember William Shatner being voted as the second least pleasant celebrity to interview by a leading film publication after Arnold Schwarzenegger! I think he has a low tolerance of foolish questions and a scathing sense of humour as you mention, but I always enjoy hearing him speak. Have you seen the film noir 'Fear In The Night' (1947)? Tremendous performance from DeForest Kelley as a paranoid man trapped inside a nightmare.
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Post by Commander_Jim on Apr 22, 2017 23:13:02 GMT
He was a great bj hooker
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Post by petrolino on Apr 22, 2017 23:13:43 GMT
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Post by camimac on Apr 22, 2017 23:21:45 GMT
Have you seen the film noir 'Fear In The Night' (1947)? Tremendous performance from DeForest Kelley as a paranoid man trapped inside a nightmare. No, I have not see DK in Fear In the Night. Sounds interesting. I'll keep an eye out in case they air it on TMC. I did see DK in Raintree County (1957) and in the Night of the Lepus (1972), and I know he made a lot more before and in between. His career sort of ran the gamut from the sublime to the surreal.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Apr 22, 2017 23:49:33 GMT
I don't know if its my favorite WS moment, but it is my most sadly surprising WS moment. I remember visiting WS's board, back when the IMDB boards were up. There was this thread where the posters seemed to be generally bashing WS. There was this one post about how WS laughed at DeForest Kelley when his dog died. It seems that back during ST-TOS run, DK had a little dog that he brought with him to work everyday. One day when WS came in, DK was crying and WS asked him what was wrong. DK told him that he had brought his dog to work that day and took him for a walk that morning. The dog apparently hit a sprinkler head and was killed and that's why DK was crying. Instead of showing sympathy for his costar's grief, WS laughed in DK's face and told him, his dog had not been a real dog anyway. When I read this in the post on the WS site I thought this could not possibly have happened. This was just someone WS bashing. But, then I found out there was an actual clip of WS on you tube telling this very story. I found the clip. So, I was surprised and saddened to find out that WS had treated DK that way. I could see how one might find the story amusing, but I know I wouldn't laugh in someone's face who was crying and told me they just lost a beloved pet. I would have respect for their feelings. This is not the original clip that I found some time ago, but WS tells the story here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKGj3CmYjGIMaybe DK got a little revenge on WS for laughing at him before: ( See: Deforest's habits- the English muffin story): startrek.ehabich.info/shatner2.htmI'll play devil's advocate here for a moment. I'm aware of many stories depicting Shatner as arrogant, self-centered or insensitive, and what he appears to be doing here is telling just such a story on himself. After going into great detail about Kelley's loyalty and emotional reserve, as well as about the smallness of Kelley's dog, Shatner elicits from the audience the very reaction he had when told how the dog had died: inappropriate laughter. As he says in the video, "What you just did...is what I did."
When he then adds, "He didn't speak to me for six weeks," he drives home the point of how he once hurt a loyal friend by being an asshole, and the humor of the story is at his own expense rather than at his friend's anguish. To draw a parallel, it's more or less the same point made by the famous MTM episode, "Chuckles Bites the Dust:" the unlikely circumstances of a sad event can trigger equally unlikely responses, bringing out the jerk in any of us.
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Post by camimac on Apr 23, 2017 0:13:27 GMT
I'll play devil's advocate here for a moment. I'm aware of many stories depicting Shatner as arrogant, self-centered or insensitive, and what he appears to be doing here is telling just such a story on himself. I agree, he does appear to be telling the story on himself in the clip I posted the link to. I posted the link to support that the story I cited was true. But as I mentioned when I posted the link, this is not the original clip. I don't know whether the original clip is still out there. I posted a link to the version I found today. In the original clip, he just launched into the telling of the story and then tried to defend his behavior. The original clip was old and of poor quality. The version I found today and posted the link to is newer. I think he realized or someone told him just how callous he sounded and he revised his telling of the story. So that he would come across the way that you described. I did not like the way WS treated DK, but I do like WS in general. I've got to like him. He is the star of my favorite television show of all time.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Apr 23, 2017 3:32:27 GMT
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Post by petrolino on Apr 23, 2017 3:46:31 GMT
The Wedding Present played locally to me last year. There's a delicate Belle & Sebastian song about a fox in the snow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 23:01:34 GMT
I always liked him in The Horror at 37,000 Feet, which is a very guilty pleasure of mine.
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Post by alexhurricanehiggins on Apr 25, 2017 18:44:15 GMT
Star Trek of course. Film wise The Devil's Rain, Airplane II, Kingdom Of The Spiders, Impulse and White Comanche.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 25, 2017 19:07:41 GMT
My favorite Shatner performance may be a strange choice, and may have too much of his patented histrionic style for some tastes, but here goes: "The Hungry Glass," from the television series Thriller (hosted by our old friend Boris Karloff). I find it a tad stronger than his other key Thriller performance, in "The Grim Reaper." In fact, "The Hungry Glass" is one of my favorite cinematic (or, rather, televised) ghost stories of them all. It may be a bit hokey in some places, but it is genuinely scary, with a properly eerie and nihilistic ending. I wonder if anyone else here has seen this one.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Jul 21, 2018 20:23:56 GMT
Watched Operation Bikini (1963) the other day and noticed that The Shat was the narrator over the closing scenes. And now you know that.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 21, 2018 21:25:24 GMT
Didn't he say Leonard Nimoy was mad at him over something when the latter died? That's too bad.
I know that one time Shatner got annoyed with questions and started asking the interviewer questions.
Favorite Star Trek moments includes the Enemy Within episode where he splits in two and his more maniacal side screams: "I want to liiive!"
Ben Stiller did a very amusing spot on impression of his ST acting in a Star Trek anniversary show.
Richard Matheson was impressed by his performance in Nightmare at 20 000 Feet. There is a particularly good Shatner moment he highlights when he realizes his wife and crew are humoring him.
Another was when he falls off the chair in Star Trek 3 and says: "you Klingon bastards, you murdered my son."
On the funny side, there is IMPULSE 1974--where he has the worst toupee-and he picks up this obnoxious girl while he is driving and a dog gets hit and she is freaking out and he says: "I'm sure...he ...is fine. Dogs are...very good...at..licking wounds."
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Post by ellynmacg on Jul 22, 2018 6:01:16 GMT
"Nightmare at 20,000 Feet" has already been cited, with WS's work in it justly praised, but I like him even better in this TZ episode: His performance is much more subtle and restrained in "Nick of Time", and besides, I find the whole episode more satisfying than "Nightmare" for two main reasons: First, I like the way Pat Breslin, as the young wife, encourages her superstitious husband to be sensible and practical, and helps keep him from being ruled by his emotions. (Richard Matheson was often, IMO, superior to Rod Serling in depicting strong, sympathetic women.) Second, the ending is happy! Well, except for that other poor, pathetic couple who have let their superstition run--and ruin--their lives!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 0:29:10 GMT
What are your favourite moments in the career of William Shatner? In tv, music, cinema or otherwise? Thanks! Hamlet on Broadway.
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