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Post by thenolan on Oct 20, 2019 8:02:21 GMT
As a follow up to Scorsese comments. Francis Ford Coppola known for the godfather trilogy.
"When Martin Scorsese says that the Marvel pictures are not cinema, he's right because we expect to learn something from cinema, we expect to gain something, some enlightenment, some knowledge, some inspiration. I don't know that anyone gets anything out of seeing the same movie over and over again, Martin was kind when he said it's not cinema. He didn't say it's despicable, which I just say it is."
This is more burn. Godfather and Goodfellas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCU
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Post by hobowar on Oct 20, 2019 8:57:48 GMT
If only the MCU could be more like Jack.
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Post by hobowar on Oct 20, 2019 9:07:39 GMT
Do you really think an old fart like Coppola went through the Marvel movies and dissected their themes & ideas or lack thereof before making that statement?
Can you seriously imagine him doing that?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 11:02:45 GMT
As a follow up to Scorsese comments. Francis Ford Coppola known for the godfather trilogy.
"When Martin Scorsese says that the Marvel pictures are not cinema, he's right because we expect to learn something from cinema, we expect to gain something, some enlightenment, some knowledge, some inspiration. I don't know that anyone gets anything out of seeing the same movie over and over again, Martin was kind when he said it's not cinema. He didn't say it's despicable, which I just say it is."
This is more burn. Godfather and Godfellas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCU
All I smell is butthurt directors. Youre supposed to be legends but they come off as childish by making these statements
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Post by thenolan on Oct 20, 2019 15:20:25 GMT
As a follow up to Scorsese comments. Francis Ford Coppola known for the godfather trilogy.
"When Martin Scorsese says that the Marvel pictures are not cinema, he's right because we expect to learn something from cinema, we expect to gain something, some enlightenment, some knowledge, some inspiration. I don't know that anyone gets anything out of seeing the same movie over and over again, Martin was kind when he said it's not cinema. He didn't say it's despicable, which I just say it is."
This is more burn. Godfather and Godfellas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCU
All I smell is butthurt directors. Youre supposed to be legends but they come off as childish by making these statements Quite an idiotic answer. what I have noticed with mcu fans is they go into nerd rage about the directors. maybe you should try questioning the bad film process of mcu films that makes these directors irritated.
So idiotic to think the directors of Godfather and Goodfellas are butthurt about kiddie theme park movies.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 20, 2019 15:27:04 GMT
Oh hi summers8. Still a fan of Mickey Rouke?
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Post by hobowar on Oct 20, 2019 15:28:20 GMT
All I smell is butthurt directors. Youre supposed to be legends but they come off as childish by making these statements Quite an idiotic answer. what I have noticed with mcu fans is they go into nerd rage about the directors. maybe you should try questioning the bad film process of mcu films that makes these directors irritated.
So idiotic to think the directors of Godfather and Goodfellas are butthurt about kiddie theme park movies.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 15:36:16 GMT
All I smell is butthurt directors. Youre supposed to be legends but they come off as childish by making these statements Quite an idiotic answer. what I have noticed with mcu fans is they go into nerd rage about the directors. maybe you should try questioning the bad film process of mcu films that makes these directors irritated.
So idiotic to think the directors of Godfather and Goodfellas are butthurt about kiddie theme park movies.
It seems as though ive touched a nerve. Heeheehee
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Post by kuatorises on Oct 20, 2019 15:47:03 GMT
I don't associate with people who used words like "cinema".
I also don't think Scorsese has seen a single comicbook movie from start-to-finish.
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Post by poutinep on Oct 20, 2019 16:13:33 GMT
Pft they're just two pretentious, out-of-touch old schmucks stuck in a bygone era.
I doubt either of them has seen one entire movie from Phase Three.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 20, 2019 16:24:43 GMT
Fun fact: directors like Joss Whedon and the Russo brothers cited The Godfather movies as inspiration.
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Post by scabab on Oct 20, 2019 17:36:59 GMT
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Post by hobowar on Oct 20, 2019 18:29:40 GMT
Fun fact: directors like Joss Whedon and the Russo brothers cited The Godfather movies as inspiration. Many film makers do.
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Post by hobowar on Oct 20, 2019 18:35:37 GMT
Scorsese said "I don't watch them" which is as close to admitting you don't know what you're talking about as you can get. 
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Post by poutinep on Oct 20, 2019 18:36:43 GMT
I know fans are going to be quick to criticise them and all but these people do know what they're talking about. They are highly regarded directors who have made universally acclaimed movies over the years. Oh please. They're just a couple old fogies saying "If it's not like the movies I make it stinks!" "Why, back in my day we made movies about gangsters! And the gangsters were played by actors who almost always played gangstes so you KNOW it was good!"
I don't agree but if a guy with 80 Academy Award Nominations, 39 Bafta Nominations and 56 Golden Globe Nominations says such a thing then I think it would be a bit ignorant to dismiss him so easily. Err yeah no. Think about the people voting for those kinds of awards... mostly pretentious old white guys just like Scorsese and Coppola. Award voters are no less susceptible to biases than anyone else. Film is subjective, period.
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Post by scabab on Oct 20, 2019 19:06:50 GMT
David Fincher and James Cameron aren't old fogies who made gangster movies. James Cameron has been making big budget summer blockbusters himself for the last 30 years. It's not like he would have any reason to be jealous like was suggested above for another director either because his movies have been more successful than the MCU ones.
The first two Godfather movies are voted #2 and #3 on the IMDb Top 250 and those voters aren't pretentious old white guys.
Roland Emmerich and Mel Gibson have criticised them too. It's not a new thing.
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 20, 2019 19:16:25 GMT
Fincher would take issue with the company's almost assembly line-like method of making films, with more emphasis often placed on the needs of the brand than on the wants of a particular filmmaker.
Cameron: “It’s just, come on, guys, there are other stories to tell besides, you know, hypogonadal males without families doing death-defying things for two hours and wrecking cities in the process,”
These criticisms are more constructive and specific---that Disney has an assembly line approach--true---and that the mass marketing of these films is crowding out alternative adventure-action stories.
I don't think those are the only problems, but two of the major problems.
The lack of interesting action and stale SPFX choreography are also serious lapses. They lack suspense.
But obviously Cameron is on shaky ground critiquing franchise films for a lack of variety when he is doing something similar.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Oct 20, 2019 19:20:25 GMT
As a follow up to Scorsese comments. Francis Ford Coppola known for the godfather trilogy.
"When Martin Scorsese says that the Marvel pictures are not cinema, he's right because we expect to learn something from cinema, we expect to gain something, some enlightenment, some knowledge, some inspiration. I don't know that anyone gets anything out of seeing the same movie over and over again, Martin was kind when he said it's not cinema. He didn't say it's despicable, which I just say it is."
This is more burn. Godfather and Godfellas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCU
But MCU movies has... JOKES!!!!!!!!!!! And safe time travel, you don't change past 
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Post by thenolan on Oct 20, 2019 19:40:31 GMT
The worst part was him saying Scorsese was been too kind.  |
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Post by thenolan on Oct 20, 2019 19:52:02 GMT
It isn't so. James Cameron is the dude who is a master of CGI fest films. For him to hate Infinity War is saying something that this MCU movies are utter trash if the dude behind Avatar and Titanic hates them.
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