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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 1:52:28 GMT
during the release of H20 and Resurrection do you think its possible he may have reprised his Loomis character in either film even if only for a small cameo? what makes H20 and Resurrection seem so lackluster to me is the absence of the "Dr. Loomis" character imo opening up with Dr. Loomis being killed off instead of "Nurse Marion Chambers" who was in both Halloween 1 and 2 for 11 minutes total wouldve made for a much better movie imo
I love the entire series even both RZ remakes but not having Loomis in H20 and Resurrection just feels weird to me the original H20 script originally featured Loomis daughter being killed off
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Post by jamesbamesy on Oct 21, 2019 1:55:49 GMT
He probably would. I don’t know exactly how they’d incorporate him in those movies, though. I think H20 works better with Laurie in the forefront.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Oct 22, 2019 14:57:01 GMT
He probably would. I don’t know exactly how they’d incorporate him in those movies, though. I think H20 works better with Laurie in the forefront. I could see a plot thread in H20 where Loomis hunts/follows Michael to California, but I like the idea of that less than what we got. One of the good things about H20 is how uncluttered and to the point it is.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Oct 22, 2019 15:05:23 GMT
He probably would. I don’t know exactly how they’d incorporate him in those movies, though. I think H20 works better with Laurie in the forefront. I could see a plot thread in H20 where Loomis hunts/follows Michael to California, but I like the idea of that less than what we got. One of the good things about H20 is how uncluttered and to the point it is. Exactly. It is devoid of all the convoluted stuff in Halloween 5 and 6 (and I actually like 6), which helps the movie a lot.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 22, 2019 15:51:10 GMT
I could see a plot thread in H20 where Loomis hunts/follows Michael to California, but I like the idea of that less than what we got. One of the good things about H20 is how uncluttered and to the point it is. Exactly. It is devoid of all the convoluted stuff in Halloween 5 and 6 (and I actually like 6), which helps the movie a lot. Yeah it was a big help to clear the way for Creed songs and LL Cool J's romance novel side project.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Oct 22, 2019 16:40:43 GMT
Exactly. It is devoid of all the convoluted stuff in Halloween 5 and 6 (and I actually like 6), which helps the movie a lot. Yeah it was a big help to clear the way for Creed songs and LL Cool J's romance novel side project. Lol, okay those were pretty odd choices this movie had.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 22, 2019 17:18:01 GMT
Yeah it was a big help to clear the way for Creed songs and LL Cool J's romance novel side project. Lol, okay those were pretty odd choices this movie had. Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of H20, and as bad as some of the sequels were, I don't think any of them suffered from having Donald Pleasance appearing.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Oct 22, 2019 17:38:25 GMT
Lol, okay those were pretty odd choices this movie had. Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of H20, and as bad as some of the sequels were, I don't think any of them suffered from having Donald Pleasance appearing. Fair enough. I think it’s the best sequel to be honest.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Oct 22, 2019 21:04:47 GMT
Lol, okay those were pretty odd choices this movie had. Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of H20, and as bad as some of the sequels were, I don't think any of them suffered from having Donald Pleasance appearing. I hope you don't think I was trying to say H20 was a better movie for lack of Pleasence, but rather, the film's lean story and runtime are a big part of its appeal for me and I don't think a film as flawed as it is could possibly have stood any additional digressions.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 23, 2019 8:33:14 GMT
I could see him dying at the beginning of H20. Based on having that lady that shared two scenes with him and his daughter rotating as the opening kills, they obviously wanted someone connected to Loomis in lieu of Loomis himself.
The only thing is, I wonder how Pleasance would take that. Before he died, he said he'd like to do 22 Halloween movies or something like that. He might've considered dying in the first 10 minutes a slap to the face.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 23, 2019 15:12:26 GMT
I mean, he was pushing 70 by the 90s, so I'm not sure how physical his role really could have gotten. There is a comic that ties up Halloween 2 up to H20 and one of the last scenes featuring Michael and Loomis was with Loomis in his deathbed in the hospital and Michael had abducted his wife and tortured her and left her for dead in front of Loomis tied up in a chair just to taunt him. Loomis goad Michael that he'd never find Laurie (because she moved and changed her identity). Loomis tries to save his wife but sees that Michael carved the name Keri Tate on the back of his wife and he realized Michael always knew that Laurie faked her death and ends up going into cardiac arrest. If something like that was filmed for the prologue of H20, it would be a nice closure to him and Michael's rivalry.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Oct 23, 2019 15:33:21 GMT
I mean, he was pushing 70 by the 90s, so I'm not sure how physical his role really could have gotten. There is a comic that ties up Halloween 2 up to H20 and one of the last scenes featuring Michael and Loomis was with Loomis in his deathbed in the hospital and Michael had abducted his wife and tortured her and left her for dead in front of Loomis tied up in a chair just to taunt him. Loomis goad Michael that he'd never find Laurie (because she moved and changed her identity). Loomis tries to save his wife but sees that Michael carved the name Keri Tate on the back of his wife and he realized Michael always knew that Laurie faked her death and ends up going into cardiac arrest. If something like that was filmed for the prologue of H20, it would be a nice closure to him and Michael's rivalry. Oh my God, that comic sounds terrible. What's the name of it and where can I find it?!
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 23, 2019 16:27:48 GMT
Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of H20, and as bad as some of the sequels were, I don't think any of them suffered from having Donald Pleasance appearing. I hope you don't think I was trying to say H20 was a better movie for lack of Pleasence, but rather, the film's lean story and runtime are a big part of its appeal for me and I don't think a film as flawed as it is could possibly have stood any additional digressions. Yeah, I was responding to the ideas in the thread more than anyone specifically... I could have been more clear. I don't love H20, but the first movie is also a very lean story and that's certainly a strength.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 23, 2019 17:24:16 GMT
I mean, he was pushing 70 by the 90s, so I'm not sure how physical his role really could have gotten. There is a comic that ties up Halloween 2 up to H20 and one of the last scenes featuring Michael and Loomis was with Loomis in his deathbed in the hospital and Michael had abducted his wife and tortured her and left her for dead in front of Loomis tied up in a chair just to taunt him. Loomis goad Michael that he'd never find Laurie (because she moved and changed her identity). Loomis tries to save his wife but sees that Michael carved the name Keri Tate on the back of his wife and he realized Michael always knew that Laurie faked her death and ends up going into cardiac arrest. If something like that was filmed for the prologue of H20, it would be a nice closure to him and Michael's rivalry. Oh my God, that comic sounds terrible. What's the name of it and where can I find it?! halloweenmovie.fandom.com/wiki/Halloween:_SamIt's called Halloween: Sam. Here's the synopsis of that final scene. Corrections, it wasn't his wife. But I think if we got something like this if he were still alive and returned for H20 as Loomis one more time, it'd be fitting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 19:35:06 GMT
I mean, he was pushing 70 by the 90s, so I'm not sure how physical his role really could have gotten. There is a comic that ties up Halloween 2 up to H20 and one of the last scenes featuring Michael and Loomis was with Loomis in his deathbed in the hospital and Michael had abducted his wife and tortured her and left her for dead in front of Loomis tied up in a chair just to taunt him. Loomis goad Michael that he'd never find Laurie (because she moved and changed her identity). Loomis tries to save his wife but sees that Michael carved the name Keri Tate on the back of his wife and he realized Michael always knew that Laurie faked her death and ends up going into cardiac arrest. If something like that was filmed for the prologue of H20, it would be a nice closure to him and Michael's rivalry. Oh my God, that comic sounds terrible. What's the name of it and where can I find it?! there are docs on youtube talking about the making of H4 and H5 and how Donalds role in both films had to be reduced slightly as he was a much older man and tired easily during filming, I just always wonder what if he were still alive I think he would've definitely appeared in both H20 and possibly Resurrection even if only for a small cameo. but those would've probably been his last
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