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Post by sdm3 on Oct 22, 2019 22:54:02 GMT
The articles you posted links to prove nothing. Playing in a tough division and/or a hard schedule is harder than playing in an easy decision and/or an easy schedule.
It takes a toll. It makes the post season more difficult.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Oct 22, 2019 23:19:46 GMT
The Patriots have the same winning percentage against every division in football. It doesn't matter who's on their schedule. This is an established fact. Lisa needs braces. Dental plan. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Oct 23, 2019 11:51:40 GMT
He has a point. Teams gain confidence with wins. They remain healthy because they get more rest in blowouts or games against bums. No one is denying the Patriots are good. They are easily the best team in the NFL the past 20 years. That is not even a debate. Bill and Brady are the greatest coach QB duo of all time. They are studs. This is obvious, but when the season starts they have already won their division. They have a minimum of 6 games a year where they do not need to really try. They know they are the better team and will win. This does affect the rest of the season, fair or not. The Patriots are 7-0 right now. Put it like this, my Eagles suck right now and have all kinds of problems. They are nowhere near as good as the Patriots on either side of the ball. However, I cannot help but think the Eagles would be, at worst, 5-2 with that schedule. That is at worst. I could easily see them being 6-1 or even 7-0 with that schedule. Think about the attitude in Philly right now and how different this team would be feeling and playing if they were winning. This isn't about this year, I agree their schedule has been crap this year (though I'll ask you like I keep asking everyone-- who are the good teams they're supposed to be playing? Who have the Saints beaten? Who have the 49ers beaten?) Over the years, the Pats win at the same rate against every division in football. It's hilarious to me that you can acknowledge Belichick is the best coach, and in the same post assume there are six games a year where they think they don't have to try. I wonder why they lose division games if they can win without trying? I am just saying that it makes a difference. It really does. They are still the best, obviously, but I am telling you the Eagles would be at worst 5-2 with that schedule so far and they have all kinds of problems. The Pats have gained confidence this year and have been able to rest players when needed because of how weak their schedule has been. Nothing wrong with it I guess, but it is a fact.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 23, 2019 11:54:27 GMT
Please read this. This isn't about this year, I agree their schedule has been crap this year (though I'll ask you like I keep asking everyone-- who are the good teams they're supposed to be playing? Who have the Saints beaten? Who have the 49ers beaten?) Over the years, the Pats win at the same rate against every division in football. It's hilarious to me that you can acknowledge Belichick is the best coach, and in the same post assume there are six games a year where they think they don't have to try. I wonder why they lose division games if they can win without trying? I am just saying that it makes a difference. It really does. They are still the best, obviously, but I am telling you the Eagles would be at worst 5-2 with that schedule so far and they have all kinds of problems. The Pats have gained confidence this year and have been able to rest players when needed because of how weak their schedule has been. Nothing wrong with it I guess, but it is a fact. I'm talking about year in and year out, not just this season. And enough already with 'gaining confidence.' The defending Super Bowl champs aren't confident? Belichick and Brady aren't confident? What players are getting rest? The injury list is insane.
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Post by DSDSquared on Oct 23, 2019 12:05:31 GMT
I am just saying that it makes a difference. It really does. They are still the best, obviously, but I am telling you the Eagles would be at worst 5-2 with that schedule so far and they have all kinds of problems. The Pats have gained confidence this year and have been able to rest players when needed because of how weak their schedule has been. Nothing wrong with it I guess, but it is a fact. I'm talking about year in and year out, not just this season. And enough already with 'gaining confidence.' The defending Super Bowl champs aren't confident? Belichick and Brady aren't confident? What players are getting rest? The injury list is insane. You are being blind to this for some reason. If you think their schedule has not made a difference this year then I do not know what to tell you. A team that is 3-4 or 2-5 playing a very tough schedule has already packed it in this year. Maybe not officially, but it makes every mistake compound and makes every game feel like a pressure filled must win. When you have barely had to try through 7 games and are 7-0, each passing game becomes less important and each mistake becomes less impactful. The players have high confidence and the team just plays differently. It is human nature.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 23, 2019 12:47:34 GMT
I'm talking about year in and year out, not just this season. And enough already with 'gaining confidence.' The defending Super Bowl champs aren't confident? Belichick and Brady aren't confident? What players are getting rest? The injury list is insane. You are being blind to this for some reason. If you think their schedule has not made a difference this year then I do not know what to tell you. A team that is 3-4 or 2-5 playing a very tough schedule has already packed it in this year. Maybe not officially, but it makes every mistake compound and makes every game feel like a pressure filled must win. When you have barely had to try through 7 games and are 7-0, each passing game becomes less important and each mistake becomes less impactful. The players have high confidence and the team just plays differently. It is human nature. If you'd watched any of the games you'd know they had to try. The Patriots couldn't move the ball in the second half of either of the Jets games (and yes, the starters were still in) and they beat Buffalo by four points. The Giants game was a one score game into the 4th quarter. You have no idea what you're talking about. Do you watch football at all? In the NFL, every game is more important than the last because you're trying to win your division, and then battle for home field in the playoffs. Saying the games are less important as the season goes on is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Tom Brady is 42 years old. Their starting center is done for the year, their WRs corps are all dealing with injuries (as well as the two shitty TEs), the fullback is on IR, and they lost their kicker and had to bring in a guy off the street. You don't think they feel pressure to win? You think they come back from down 25 in a Super Bowl because they aren't used to feeling pressure? Can you explain to me how the Patriots lost to five non-playoff teams last year if winning is so easy? The Cowboys whooped the Eagles ass the other day, a week after losing to the Jets. Anyone can beat anyone on any day in this league. The Patriots win more often than not because they're prepared and focused, period. They don't mail in divisional games and coast on their reputation. It's a ridiculous argument you're making right now.
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Post by DSDSquared on Oct 23, 2019 12:55:05 GMT
You are being blind to this for some reason. If you think their schedule has not made a difference this year then I do not know what to tell you. A team that is 3-4 or 2-5 playing a very tough schedule has already packed it in this year. Maybe not officially, but it makes every mistake compound and makes every game feel like a pressure filled must win. When you have barely had to try through 7 games and are 7-0, each passing game becomes less important and each mistake becomes less impactful. The players have high confidence and the team just plays differently. It is human nature. If you'd watched any of the games you'd know they had to try. The Patriots couldn't move the ball in the second half of either of the Jets games (and yes, the starters were still in) and they beat Buffalo by four points. The Giants game was a one score game into the 4th quarter. You have no idea what you're talking about. Do you watch football at all? In the NFL, every game is more important than the last because you're trying to win your division, and then battle for home field in the playoffs. Saying the games are less important as the season goes on is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Tom Brady is 42 years old. Their starting center is done for the year, their WRs corps are all dealing with injuries (as well as the two shitty TEs), the fullback is on IR, and they lost their kicker and had to bring in a guy off the street. You don't think they feel pressure to win? You think they come back from down 25 in a Super Bowl because they aren't used to feeling pressure? Can you explain to me how the Patriots lost to five non-playoff teams last year if winning is so easy? The Cowboys whooped the Eagles ass the other day, a week after losing to the Jets. Anyone can beat anyone on any day in this league. The Patriots win more often than not because they're prepared and focused, period. They don't mail in divisional games and coast on their reputation. It's a ridiculous argument you're making right now. Most of what you said is true, but still does not make me any less right. The fact that the Patriots struggled against Buffalo and the Giants furthers my point, actually.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 23, 2019 13:16:53 GMT
If you'd watched any of the games you'd know they had to try. The Patriots couldn't move the ball in the second half of either of the Jets games (and yes, the starters were still in) and they beat Buffalo by four points. The Giants game was a one score game into the 4th quarter. You have no idea what you're talking about. Do you watch football at all? In the NFL, every game is more important than the last because you're trying to win your division, and then battle for home field in the playoffs. Saying the games are less important as the season goes on is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Tom Brady is 42 years old. Their starting center is done for the year, their WRs corps are all dealing with injuries (as well as the two shitty TEs), the fullback is on IR, and they lost their kicker and had to bring in a guy off the street. You don't think they feel pressure to win? You think they come back from down 25 in a Super Bowl because they aren't used to feeling pressure? Can you explain to me how the Patriots lost to five non-playoff teams last year if winning is so easy? The Cowboys whooped the Eagles ass the other day, a week after losing to the Jets. Anyone can beat anyone on any day in this league. The Patriots win more often than not because they're prepared and focused, period. They don't mail in divisional games and coast on their reputation. It's a ridiculous argument you're making right now. Most of what you said is true, but still does not make me any less right. The fact that the Patriots struggled against Buffalo and the Giants furthers my point, actually. No it doesn't, it proves my point. The Patriots play just as hard every game out. Winning in this league is hard. So what's going to happen when the Patriots play the Eagles in a few weeks? If the Patriots win, it's because the Eagles suck? Or the Eagles win, it's because they're actually good and the Patriots haven't been tested? You're just building a narrative to justify your view that the Patriots only win because they have some kind of advantage in their division. The link I posted a million times proves that the Patriots prepare for everyone the same way and win at the same rate against everyone. They work just as hard and win just as often every week, every season. Their division is irrelevant and you guys are arguing against previous results that are inarguable, factual evidence.
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Post by movieliker on Oct 23, 2019 13:23:17 GMT
Most of what you said is true, but still does not make me any less right. The fact that the Patriots struggled against Buffalo and the Giants furthers my point, actually.No it doesn't, it proves my point. The Patriots play just as hard every game out. Winning in this league is hard. So what's going to happen when the Patriots play the Eagles in a few weeks? If the Patriots win, it's because the Eagles suck? Or the Eagles win, it's because they're actually good and the Patriots haven't been tested? You're just building a narrative to justify your view that the Patriots only win because they have some kind of advantage in their division. The link I posted a million times proves that the Patriots prepare for everyone the same way and win at the same rate against everyone. They work just as hard and win just as often every week, every season. Their division is irrelevant and you guys are arguing against previous results that are inarguable, factual evidence. No Rey. You are wrong and DSDSquared is right. We all have told you the Patriots are the best team. Why can't you just accept they are benefitting from an easy schedule? The Patriots are the best team Rey. But they are just human beings. They are not superheros. They are not The Avengers. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 23, 2019 13:41:27 GMT
No it doesn't, it proves my point. The Patriots play just as hard every game out. Winning in this league is hard. So what's going to happen when the Patriots play the Eagles in a few weeks? If the Patriots win, it's because the Eagles suck? Or the Eagles win, it's because they're actually good and the Patriots haven't been tested? You're just building a narrative to justify your view that the Patriots only win because they have some kind of advantage in their division. The link I posted a million times proves that the Patriots prepare for everyone the same way and win at the same rate against everyone. They work just as hard and win just as often every week, every season. Their division is irrelevant and you guys are arguing against previous results that are inarguable, factual evidence. No Rey. You are wrong and DSDSquared is right. We all have told you the Patriots are the best team. Why can't you just accept they are benefitting from an easy schedule? The Patriots are the best team Rey. But they are just human beings. They are not superheros. They are not The Avengers. Why can't you accept that they're better than your team? It's ok. You don't have to sue the league every time you lose a playoff game, and you don't have to deny another organization is superior to yours.
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 23, 2019 13:47:22 GMT
No Rey. You are wrong and DSDSquared is right. We all have told you the Patriots are the best team. Why can't you just accept they are benefitting from an easy schedule? The Patriots are the best team Rey. But they are just human beings. They are not superheros. They are not The Avengers. Why can't you accept that they're better than your team? It's ok. You don't have to sue the league every time you lose a playoff game, and you don't have to deny another organization is superior to yours. This thread NEEDS jimanchower. “Ok Rey lol. I’m sure the Patriots don’t benefit from playing the Jets Dolphins and Bills twice a year lol, right Rey lol?” |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 23, 2019 13:59:19 GMT
Why can't you accept that they're better than your team? It's ok. You don't have to sue the league every time you lose a playoff game, and you don't have to deny another organization is superior to yours. This thread NEEDS jimanchower. “Ok Rey lol. I’m sure the Patriots don’t benefit from playing the Jets Dolphins and Bills twice a year lol, right Rey lol?” Maybe jim could explain why the Patriots lose division games every year if winning games in your division is so easy in the NFL. Nobody else has been able to answer that question. Ironically the Patriots could go undefeated in their division this year. At least jim watched enough Patriots games (why, I don't know) to know the Patriots aren't 'resting players to be fresh for the playoffs.' But then, movieliker also thinks the Saints once went 13-3 and missed the playoffs, so this is what we're dealing with here.
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Post by movieliker on Oct 23, 2019 14:06:46 GMT
No Rey. You are wrong and DSDSquared is right. We all have told you the Patriots are the best team. Why can't you just accept they are benefitting from an easy schedule? The Patriots are the best team Rey. But they are just human beings. They are not superheros. They are not The Avengers. Why can't you accept that they're better than your team? It's ok. You don't have to sue the league every time you lose a playoff game, and you don't have to deny another organization is superior to yours. Sure. I will accept the Patriots are better than the Saints --- if you accept the Patriots are benefitting from an easy schedule. |
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Post by movieliker on Oct 23, 2019 14:08:24 GMT
This thread NEEDS jimanchower. “Ok Rey lol. I’m sure the Patriots don’t benefit from playing the Jets Dolphins and Bills twice a year lol, right Rey lol?” Maybe jim could explain why the Patriots lose division games every year if winning games in your division is so easy in the NFL. Nobody else has been able to answer that question. Ironically the Patriots could go undefeated in their division this year. At least jim watched enough Patriots games (why, I don't know) to know the Patriots aren't 'resting players to be fresh for the playoffs.' But then, movieliker also thinks the Saints once went 13-3 and missed the playoffs, so this is what we're dealing with here. We already explained that to you. You won't accept our explanation. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 23, 2019 14:16:01 GMT
Maybe jim could explain why the Patriots lose division games every year if winning games in your division is so easy in the NFL. Nobody else has been able to answer that question. Ironically the Patriots could go undefeated in their division this year. At least jim watched enough Patriots games (why, I don't know) to know the Patriots aren't 'resting players to be fresh for the playoffs.' But then, movieliker also thinks the Saints once went 13-3 and missed the playoffs, so this is what we're dealing with here. We already explained that to you. You won't accept our explanation. No, you didn't. You said they don't have to worry about division games, that they can win without trying. You also said the Saints once went 13-3 and missed the playoffs. When you say something factually accurate, I'll agree with you.
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Post by movieliker on Oct 23, 2019 14:21:23 GMT
We already explained that to you. You won't accept our explanation. No, you didn't. You said they don't have to worry about division games, that they can win without trying. You also said the Saints once went 13-3 and missed the playoffs. When you say something factually accurate, I'll agree with you. You are not strengthening you argument pointing out that my facts have not always been exact. That is kind of piddling. That's along the lines of "I know you are. But what am I?" Am I dealing with am adult here? Or a child? |
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Post by oftrollorigins on Oct 23, 2019 14:21:26 GMT
Bears are a BAD team. The worst offense in the league and a great defense getting worn down from being on the field for 3/4ths of the game.
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Post by movieliker on Oct 23, 2019 14:23:08 GMT
Bears are a BAD team. The worst offense in the league and a great defense getting worn down from being on the field for 3/4ths of the game. I disagree. The Bears are better than any team in the BAD group. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 23, 2019 14:23:53 GMT
Bears are a BAD team. The worst offense in the league and a great defense getting worn down from being on the field for 3/4ths of the game. Someone on a talk show last night threw out the idea of Brady going to Chicago next season. Thoughts?
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Oct 23, 2019 15:03:48 GMT
Bears are a BAD team. The worst offense in the league and a great defense getting worn down from being on the field for 3/4ths of the game. Someone on a talk show last night threw out the idea of Brady going to Chicago next season. Thoughts? I hear Gronk will come out of retirement but only to play on the Dolphins. Fact or fiction? |
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