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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 23, 2019 15:20:00 GMT
Someone on a talk show last night threw out the idea of Brady going to Chicago next season. Thoughts? I hear Gronk will come out of retirement but only to play on the Dolphins. Fact or fiction? In all seriousness though, the Chicago thing isn't completely crazy-- at least from Brady's perspective. I wouldn't be surprised if Brady wasn't here next year, and it won't be due to retirement. They gave him a fake contract extension knowing he was going to have less weapons to work with this season. If they wouldn't give him the money he wanted at 42, you think they're going to give it to him at 43, after a down statistical year?
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Oct 23, 2019 15:34:00 GMT
I hear Gronk will come out of retirement but only to play on the Dolphins. Fact or fiction? In all seriousness though, the Chicago thing isn't completely crazy-- at least from Brady's perspective. I wouldn't be surprised if Brady wasn't here next year, and it won't be due to retirement. They gave him a fake contract extension knowing he was going to have less weapons to work with this season. If they wouldn't give him the money he wanted at 42, you think they're going to give it to him at 43, after a down statistical year? I hear you, but are you saying they’re gonna play hardball with Brady? I mean, hasn’t he earned by now whatever he wants, or will even he be a victim of “the Patriot Way?”
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 23, 2019 15:56:50 GMT
In all seriousness though, the Chicago thing isn't completely crazy-- at least from Brady's perspective. I wouldn't be surprised if Brady wasn't here next year, and it won't be due to retirement. They gave him a fake contract extension knowing he was going to have less weapons to work with this season. If they wouldn't give him the money he wanted at 42, you think they're going to give it to him at 43, after a down statistical year? I hear you, but are you saying they’re gonna play hardball with Brady? I mean, hasn’t he earned by now whatever he wants, or will even he be a victim of “the Patriot Way?” They played hardball with him already, that's why he's playing under that bogus 'extension' right now. Remember, Bill wanted to keep Garoppolo, Kraft basically forced him to make that trade. Belichick loves how shitty the offense looks this year, you could see it on his face at the end of the Bills game. He wants to prove he can win without Brady. Brady just wants to play football until he can't anymore, the Patriots will never let him do that. I wouldn't be stunned if Brady comes back next year on a 1 year deal for a shitload of cash, but I also wouldn't be shocked if he walked. I never would've believed that even three years ago, but the dynamic between Brady and Belichick has changed. Maybe it's ego, maybe it is simply 'the Patriot Way' from Belichick's perspective; but Brady wants to play until he's 45 or whatever and there's zero chance that happens here.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Oct 23, 2019 16:20:00 GMT
Seeing Brady in a Bears uniform, or whatever team, would be like Jordan on the Wizards, Montana on the Chiefs, Bourque on the Avs. It’s not natural, it’s like seeing a cat walk backwards.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Oct 23, 2019 16:27:38 GMT
Seeing Brady in a Bears uniform, or whatever team, would be like Jordan on the Wizards, Montana on the Chiefs, Bourque on the Avs. It’s not natural, it’s like seeing a cat walk backwards. I really don't see it happening beyond bargaining chip if anything. His personal family lifestyle is on cruise control where he is, he'd be leaving Josh McDaniels & their schemes - which he can play blindfolded, easily helping him age well at QB. Chicago is in a more fiery division, with some of the worst home field weather & turf. As for Brady's decline, I don't think he'll ever decline to a traditionally inept level. A lot of what he's doing recently is because he's mastered the art of his offense in his mind, him at 50 could still dance in the pocket & check down. I think he plays 2 more years & that's it. As for Belichick, he's running this historic defense on his own this season sans D-coordinator... I can't think that's not a huge pride & personal legacy chip for him. I mean, that guy needs motivation & frankly the AFC East has proven it can never motivate him worth a damn.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 23, 2019 16:53:11 GMT
Seeing Brady in a Bears uniform, or whatever team, would be like Jordan on the Wizards, Montana on the Chiefs, Bourque on the Avs. It’s not natural, it’s like seeing a cat walk backwards. I really don't see it happening beyond bargaining chip if anything. His personal family lifestyle is on cruise control where he is, he'd be leaving Josh McDaniels & their schemes - which he can play blindfolded, easily helping him age well at QB. Chicago is in a more fiery division, with some of the worst home field weather & turf. As for Brady's decline, I don't think he'll ever decline to a traditionally inept level. A lot of what he's doing recently is because he's mastered the art of his offense in his mind, him at 50 could still dance in the pocket & check down. I think he plays 2 more years & that's it. As for Belichick, he's running this historic defense on his own this season sans D-coordinator... I can't think that's not a huge pride & personal legacy chip for him. I mean, that guy needs motivation & frankly the AFC East has proven it can never motivate him worth a damn. Belichick trying not to laugh at Gase the other night was legendary.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 25, 2019 13:00:56 GMT
Why can't you accept that they're better than your team? It's ok. You don't have to sue the league every time you lose a playoff game, and you don't have to deny another organization is superior to yours. This thread NEEDS jimanchower. “Ok Rey lol. I’m sure the Patriots don’t benefit from playing the Jets Dolphins and Bills twice a year lol, right Rey lol?” I feel like people here (and I'm not saying you, I'm just using your post as a way to get back to this topic) don't understand what I'm saying. I've been accused of blind homerism, which is ironic considering I'm currently complaining about how vulnerable the team looks in other threads, and last year I made a public apology to Xeliou66 on this board because he predicted the Patriots would make the Super Bowl while I said they were a terrible team and they wouldn't. I could bore you all with personal anecdotes as a fan over the years, but that's not as conclusive and easier to argue against. Instead I'll use game results, season by season. Here we go. The link one more time, but I'm going to go deeper. People are suggesting the Patriots have it easy because of their weak division. I have not argued their division was great, I've pointed out that they beat every other division on the league at the same rate they beat their own division. What that really means folks, is that the Patriots lose to their division foes at the same rate they lose to everyone else. The division does them no favors. They play 6 division games and 10 non division games, yet still manage to lose to their divisional foes at the same rate. Nobody is arguing that the AFC East is a dogfight for supremacy; but the Patriots don't gain any advantage playing here. In 2003, the Patriots went 14-2. One of those losses was to divisional opponent Buffalo. In 2004, the Patriots again went 14-2. One of those losses was to divisional opponent Miami. In 2006 they went 12-4, and still lost to the Jets and Dolphins. In 2008 11-5 and they again lost to both NYJ and Miami. 2009, 10-6 with 2 division losses. 2010 14-2 with one loss to the Jets and guess who knocked them out of the playoffs, in Gillette Stadium: The fucking Jets. I'll keep going. 2011 they went 13-3 with a loss to Buffalo. 2013 12-4, losing again to the Jets and Dolphins. 2014 12-4, losing to Miami and Buffalo. 2015 12-4, losing again to the Jets and Dolphins. 2016 14-2 with a loss to Buffalo. That's eight times where half of their season's losses came to divisional foes. 2017 13-3 with a loss to the Dolphins. 2018 11-5 with a loss to the Dolphins. Wow, the Patriots sure have whooped up on that weak division of theirs over the years, just feasting on them and "gaining confidence." In fact since 2003, the only times they've swept their division were 2012, and of course 2007 when they beat everyone on their schedule until the Super Bowl (lol, it's still funny!). Now let's look at the other foolish comments from this thread, that the Patriots "don't have to worry about their division." Head to head notwithstanding (now that I've debunked that), the AFC East has not been competitive year in and year out, it's true. Here's the thing. When you win three out of four Super Bowls, you start getting loftier goals. They're worried about the #1 seed and homefield, they aren't worried about sneaking into the playoffs. You only get 16 games in the NFL, you don't take games off and coast. Some of those late season losses to division foes cost the Patriots homefield, where they would go on the road and lose to Manning's Colts and Broncos in the AFC championship game 3 times. You think the Patriots didn't want home field against Peyton Manning, who never won a playoff game in Foxboro? You think the Patriots "didn't feel pressure to win" on a weekly basis those seasons? How important is homefield to the Patriots? They've only lost 3 post-season home games during the Brady era-- twice to Baltimore and again, once to divisional opponent New York. But they don't feel pressure to win? Better yet, can anyone imagine a scenario where Bill Belichick walks into a room and says, "Take it easy this week, it's only Buffalo." Or, "We're up two games on the Jets in the division, so the outcome of this game doesn't matter. No practice this week guys, the pressure is off." It's completely absurd. Does anyone seriously think the defense that shut down the Rams in the Super Bowl last year needs to "gain confidence" by demolishing the Redskins, Jets, insert bad team here, etc.? Think it through before posting. One more thing I found. This is a great resource. I looked at the Pats record against every team in the NFL during the Brady era, and not only did it confirm what the overall numbers already tell us (that the Pats win against every division at the same rate they win in their own); it also showed me every division seems to have one team that the Pats have difficulty with. Much like Miami in their own division. Baltimore in the AFC North, Carolina in the NFC South, Seattle in the NFC West, Denver in the AFC West. (Sorry sdm3 , the Pats troubles in Denver pre-date Manning's arrival. In fact, the Patriots actually had a winning record against Manning's Broncos-- but he won the two most important ones, so it isn't all bad news for you.) Again, like Miami for whatever reason, there are random teams throughout the NFL that seem to trouble the Pats. But divisionally speaking, the Patriots do just as well wherever they go. If only the haters could hand pick random teams to put them in the Patriots division so it would be more fair. I hope I've opened a few eyes on this topic. This isn't for the benefit of movieliker, who's convinced the Eagles fired a coach immediately after a game for calling a pass play, or that the Saints went 13-3 and missed the playoffs. (Neither of those is true, but I'd like to point out the Patriots once went 11-5 and missed the playoffs, without Brady or course.) He's clearly trolling or too ignorant to comprehend what I'm saying here. This is for DSDSquared and anyone else who thinks I'm misinformed or simply being a homer. The results are in. The Patriots don't gain any advantage whatsoever from playing on the AFC East. (And before anyone can say it, for the millionth time, yes the Patriots schedule so far THIS SEASON has been atrocious. They might sweep their division this year. And yet I alone seem to be the one on this board who only sees their weaknesses. What a homer.)
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 25, 2019 13:30:21 GMT
Don't get me wrong Rey, I understand that the Patriots have been the class of the NFL for the last 20 or so years. The fact that they play in the AFC East is almost completely irrelevant as you've pointed out; they've had a high level of consistent success against every division in the league. As far as them "not worrying about the division games", that's nonsense. Look, we all saw how Patriots fans acted just last season when it looked like there was a chance the Pats might NOT get a first round bye and have to settle for a lowly wild card spot. They acted like the fucking sky was falling. And yes, that was a slight. That is literally the only slight I, and really any intelligent football fan (in other words, not guys like WarrenPeace) have in our limited arsenal when it comes to the Patriots. "Ha ha, your team might not get a first round bye this year and your fans are upset, what a bunch of losers!" Well, all that proves is that a first round bye is very much in their plans each and every year. That means they very much do have to worry about each and every game, lowly Dolphins or no, who they somehow still find a way to lose to almost every season. How many times did it look like the Patriots were finished last year? They lost to the damn Titans. They lost to Miami and fucking Ryan Tannehill of all people got to joke that Gronk is slow. They lost to Matt Patricia's Lions. And they STILL went on to win the Super Bowl. Think about that people. By their standards it was a relatively lacklustre year for them and they STILL WON THE SUPER BOWL. The rest of us can only dream of such a fucking year. At this point there is absolutely no retort any of us can make to try and play down their achievements and level of consistency. All we have are slim hopes that maybe, just MAYBE, they won't win the Super Bowl THIS year? Maybe?
In other words, their success is fully earned and the rest of us just have to eat it at this point.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 25, 2019 13:44:23 GMT
Don't get me wrong Rey, I understand that the Patriots have been the class of the NFL for the last 20 or so years. The fact that they play in the AFC East is almost completely irrelevant as you've pointed out; they've had a high level of consistent success against every division in the league. As far as them "not worrying about the division games", that's nonsense. Look, we all saw how Patriots fans acted just last season when it looked like there was a chance the Pats might NOT get a first round bye and have to settle for a lowly wild card spot. They acted like the fucking sky was falling. And yes, that was a slight. That is literally the only slight I, and really any intelligent football fan (in other words, not guys like WarrenPeace) have in our limited arsenal when it comes to the Patriots. "Ha ha, your team might not get a first round bye this year and your fans are upset, what a bunch of losers!" Well, all that proves is that a first round bye is very much in their plans each and every year. That means they very much do have to worry about each and every game, lowly Dolphins or no, who they somehow still find a way to lose to almost every season. How many times did it look like the Patriots were finished last year? They lost to the damn Titans. They lost to Miami and fucking Ryan Tannehill of all people got to joke that Gronk is slow. They lost to Matt Patricia's Lions. And they STILL went on to win the Super Bowl. Think about that people. By their standards it was a relatively lacklustre year for them and they STILL WON THE SUPER BOWL. The rest of us can only dream of such a fucking year. At this point there is absolutely no retort any of us can make to try and play down their achievements and level of consistency. All we have are slim hopes that maybe, just MAYBE, they won't win the Super Bowl THIS year? Maybe? In other words, their success is fully earned and the rest of us just have to eat it at this point. To reiterate, that post wasn't really aimed at you because I chose to quote you to get back on topic. I just wanted it to take movieliker longer to find it and come back with some bullshit inverse logic. I'm not a poster who wants to beat it into the ground that my team is the greatest thing in the history of the world, I just get tired of the excuses made by other fans. Complaining about the AFC east is like the lite beer of Spygate, Deflategate, Goodell is in your pocket, name-your-conspiracy-theory argument too many fans come up with to explain away the success that's built on hard work, preparation and execution.
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Post by DSDSquared on Oct 25, 2019 14:29:48 GMT
This thread NEEDS jimanchower. “Ok Rey lol. I’m sure the Patriots don’t benefit from playing the Jets Dolphins and Bills twice a year lol, right Rey lol?” I feel like people here (and I'm not saying you, I'm just using your post as a way to get back to this topic) don't understand what I'm saying. I've been accused of blind homerism, which is ironic considering I'm currently complaining about how vulnerable the team looks in other threads, and last year I made a public apology to Xeliou66 on this board because he predicted the Patriots would make the Super Bowl while I said they were a terrible team and they wouldn't. I could bore you all with personal anecdotes as a fan over the years, but that's not as conclusive and easier to argue against. Instead I'll use game results, season by season. Here we go. The link one more time, but I'm going to go deeper. People are suggesting the Patriots have it easy because of their weak division. I have not argued their division was great, I've pointed out that they beat every other division on the league at the same rate they beat their own division. What that really means folks, is that the Patriots lose to their division foes at the same rate they lose to everyone else. The division does them no favors. They play 6 division games and 10 non division games, yet still manage to lose to their divisional foes at the same rate. Nobody is arguing that the AFC East is a dogfight for supremacy; but the Patriots don't gain any advantage playing here. In 2003, the Patriots went 14-2. One of those losses was to divisional opponent Buffalo. In 2004, the Patriots again went 14-2. One of those losses was to divisional opponent Miami. In 2006 they went 12-4, and still lost to the Jets and Dolphins. In 2008 11-5 and they again lost to both NYJ and Miami. 2009, 10-6 with 2 division losses. 2010 14-2 with one loss to the Jets and guess who knocked them out of the playoffs, in Gillette Stadium: The fucking Jets. I'll keep going. 2011 they went 13-3 with a loss to Buffalo. 2013 12-4, losing again to the Jets and Dolphins. 2014 12-4, losing to Miami and Buffalo. 2015 12-4, losing again to the Jets and Dolphins. 2016 14-2 with a loss to Buffalo. That's eight times where half of their season's losses came to divisional foes. 2017 13-3 with a loss to the Dolphins. 2018 11-5 with a loss to the Dolphins. Wow, the Patriots sure have whooped up on that weak division of theirs over the years, just feasting on them and "gaining confidence." In fact since 2003, the only times they've swept their division were 2012, and of course 2007 when they beat everyone on their schedule until the Super Bowl (lol, it's still funny!). Now let's look at the other foolish comments from this thread, that the Patriots "don't have to worry about their division." Head to head notwithstanding (now that I've debunked that), the AFC East has not been competitive year in and year out, it's true. Here's the thing. When you win three out of four Super Bowls, you start getting loftier goals. They're worried about the #1 seed and homefield, they aren't worried about sneaking into the playoffs. You only get 16 games in the NFL, you don't take games off and coast. Some of those late season losses to division foes cost the Patriots homefield, where they would go on the road and lose to Manning's Colts and Broncos in the AFC championship game 3 times. You think the Patriots didn't want home field against Peyton Manning, who never won a playoff game in Foxboro? You think the Patriots "didn't feel pressure to win" on a weekly basis those seasons? How important is homefield to the Patriots? They've only lost 3 post-season home games during the Brady era-- twice to Baltimore and again, once to divisional opponent New York. But they don't feel pressure to win? Better yet, can anyone imagine a scenario where Bill Belichick walks into a room and says, "Take it easy this week, it's only Buffalo." Or, "We're up two games on the Jets in the division, so the outcome of this game doesn't matter. No practice this week guys, the pressure is off." It's completely absurd. Does anyone seriously think the defense that shut down the Rams in the Super Bowl last year needs to "gain confidence" by demolishing the Redskins, Jets, insert bad team here, etc.? Think it through before posting. One more thing I found. This is a great resource. I looked at the Pats record against every team in the NFL during the Brady era, and not only did it confirm what the overall numbers already tell us (that the Pats win against every division at the same rate they win in their own); it also showed me every division seems to have one team that the Pats have difficulty with. Much like Miami in their own division. Baltimore in the AFC North, Carolina in the NFC South, Seattle in the NFC West, Denver in the AFC West. (Sorry sdm3 , the Pats troubles in Denver pre-date Manning's arrival. In fact, the Patriots actually had a winning record against Manning's Broncos-- but he won the two most important ones, so it isn't all bad news for you.) Again, like Miami for whatever reason, there are random teams throughout the NFL that seem to trouble the Pats. But divisionally speaking, the Patriots do just as well wherever they go. If only the haters could hand pick random teams to put them in the Patriots division so it would be more fair. I hope I've opened a few eyes on this topic. This isn't for the benefit of movieliker, who's convinced the Eagles fired a coach immediately after a game for calling a pass play, or that the Saints went 13-3 and missed the playoffs. (Neither of those is true, but I'd like to point out the Patriots once went 11-5 and missed the playoffs, without Brady or course.) He's clearly trolling or too ignorant to comprehend what I'm saying here. This is for DSDSquared and anyone else who thinks I'm misinformed or simply being a homer. The results are in. The Patriots don't gain any advantage whatsoever from playing on the AFC East. (And before anyone can say it, for the millionth time, yes the Patriots schedule so far THIS SEASON has been atrocious. They might sweep their division this year. And yet I alone seem to be the one on this board who only sees their weaknesses. What a homer.) I never said you were a homer. The Pats are easily at the top of my Power Rankings no question. I said this already. All I said was their schedule has been a joke this year, which it has.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 25, 2019 15:22:37 GMT
I never said you were a homer. The Pats are easily at the top of my Power Rankings no question. I said this already. All I said was their schedule has been a joke this year, which it has. I had already agreed to that and specifically said it wasn't about this year in my first reply to you, not sure why you continued to argue that case.
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Post by movieliker on Oct 25, 2019 15:32:44 GMT
This thread NEEDS jimanchower. “Ok Rey lol. I’m sure the Patriots don’t benefit from playing the Jets Dolphins and Bills twice a year lol, right Rey lol?” I feel like people here (and I'm not saying you, I'm just using your post as a way to get back to this topic) don't understand what I'm saying. I've been accused of blind homerism, which is ironic considering I'm currently complaining about how vulnerable the team looks in other threads, and last year I made a public apology to Xeliou66 on this board because he predicted the Patriots would make the Super Bowl while I said they were a terrible team and they wouldn't. I could bore you all with personal anecdotes as a fan over the years, but that's not as conclusive and easier to argue against. Instead I'll use game results, season by season. Here we go. The link one more time, but I'm going to go deeper. People are suggesting the Patriots have it easy because of their weak division. I have not argued their division was great, I've pointed out that they beat every other division on the league at the same rate they beat their own division. What that really means folks, is that the Patriots lose to their division foes at the same rate they lose to everyone else. The division does them no favors. They play 6 division games and 10 non division games, yet still manage to lose to their divisional foes at the same rate. Nobody is arguing that the AFC East is a dogfight for supremacy; but the Patriots don't gain any advantage playing here. In 2003, the Patriots went 14-2. One of those losses was to divisional opponent Buffalo. In 2004, the Patriots again went 14-2. One of those losses was to divisional opponent Miami. In 2006 they went 12-4, and still lost to the Jets and Dolphins. In 2008 11-5 and they again lost to both NYJ and Miami. 2009, 10-6 with 2 division losses. 2010 14-2 with one loss to the Jets and guess who knocked them out of the playoffs, in Gillette Stadium: The fucking Jets. I'll keep going. 2011 they went 13-3 with a loss to Buffalo. 2013 12-4, losing again to the Jets and Dolphins. 2014 12-4, losing to Miami and Buffalo. 2015 12-4, losing again to the Jets and Dolphins. 2016 14-2 with a loss to Buffalo. That's eight times where half of their season's losses came to divisional foes. 2017 13-3 with a loss to the Dolphins. 2018 11-5 with a loss to the Dolphins. Wow, the Patriots sure have whooped up on that weak division of theirs over the years, just feasting on them and "gaining confidence." In fact since 2003, the only times they've swept their division were 2012, and of course 2007 when they beat everyone on their schedule until the Super Bowl (lol, it's still funny!). Now let's look at the other foolish comments from this thread, that the Patriots "don't have to worry about their division." Head to head notwithstanding (now that I've debunked that), the AFC East has not been competitive year in and year out, it's true. Here's the thing. When you win three out of four Super Bowls, you start getting loftier goals. They're worried about the #1 seed and homefield, they aren't worried about sneaking into the playoffs. You only get 16 games in the NFL, you don't take games off and coast. Some of those late season losses to division foes cost the Patriots homefield, where they would go on the road and lose to Manning's Colts and Broncos in the AFC championship game 3 times. You think the Patriots didn't want home field against Peyton Manning, who never won a playoff game in Foxboro? You think the Patriots "didn't feel pressure to win" on a weekly basis those seasons? How important is homefield to the Patriots? They've only lost 3 post-season home games during the Brady era-- twice to Baltimore and again, once to divisional opponent New York. But they don't feel pressure to win? Better yet, can anyone imagine a scenario where Bill Belichick walks into a room and says, "Take it easy this week, it's only Buffalo." Or, "We're up two games on the Jets in the division, so the outcome of this game doesn't matter. No practice this week guys, the pressure is off." It's completely absurd. Does anyone seriously think the defense that shut down the Rams in the Super Bowl last year needs to "gain confidence" by demolishing the Redskins, Jets, insert bad team here, etc.? Think it through before posting. One more thing I found. This is a great resource. I looked at the Pats record against every team in the NFL during the Brady era, and not only did it confirm what the overall numbers already tell us (that the Pats win against every division at the same rate they win in their own); it also showed me every division seems to have one team that the Pats have difficulty with. Much like Miami in their own division. Baltimore in the AFC North, Carolina in the NFC South, Seattle in the NFC West, Denver in the AFC West. (Sorry sdm3 , the Pats troubles in Denver pre-date Manning's arrival. In fact, the Patriots actually had a winning record against Manning's Broncos-- but he won the two most important ones, so it isn't all bad news for you.) Again, like Miami for whatever reason, there are random teams throughout the NFL that seem to trouble the Pats. But divisionally speaking, the Patriots do just as well wherever they go. If only the haters could hand pick random teams to put them in the Patriots division so it would be more fair. I hope I've opened a few eyes on this topic. This isn't for the benefit of movieliker, who's convinced the Eagles fired a coach immediately after a game for calling a pass play, or that the Saints went 13-3 and missed the playoffs. (Neither of those is true, but I'd like to point out the Patriots once went 11-5 and missed the playoffs, without Brady or course.) He's clearly trolling or too ignorant to comprehend what I'm saying here. This is for DSDSquared and anyone else who thinks I'm misinformed or simply being a homer. The results are in. The Patriots don't gain any advantage whatsoever from playing on the AFC East. (And before anyone can say it, for the millionth time, yes the Patriots schedule so far THIS SEASON has been atrocious. They might sweep their division this year. And yet I alone seem to be the one on this board who only sees their weaknesses. What a homer.) Rey, you are going 'round and 'round trying to defend your position and avoid the truth. It's really getting pathetic. The Patriots benefit every year from a weak division. And they are benefitting this year from an easy schedule.
Everyone you are arguing against has the Patriots #1 in their power rankings. And admits the Pat's are the best team over the last 10 - 20 years.
But still you cannot accept the Pats benefit from an easy schedule and weak division.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 25, 2019 16:08:04 GMT
Rey, you are going 'round and 'round trying to defend your position and avoid the truth. It's really getting pathetic. The Patriots benefit every year from a weak division. And they are benefitting this year from an easy schedule.
Everyone you are arguing against has the Patriots #1 in their power rankings. And admits the Pat's are the best team over the last 10 - 20 years.
But still you cannot accept the Pats benefit from an easy schedule and weak division.Maybe you could sue the league over it.
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Post by movieliker on Oct 25, 2019 16:26:05 GMT
Rey, you are going 'round and 'round trying to defend your position and avoid the truth. It's really getting pathetic. The Patriots benefit every year from a weak division. And they are benefitting this year from an easy schedule.
Everyone you are arguing against has the Patriots #1 in their power rankings. And admits the Pat's are the best team over the last 10 - 20 years.
But still you cannot accept the Pats benefit from an easy schedule and weak division.Maybe you could sue the league over it. You can sue anybody over anything. That doesn't mean your case won't get thrown out. Or that you will win. But as long as you are able to pay the lawyers, they will sue anybody. They get paid regardless.
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