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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 25, 2019 19:14:58 GMT
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 25, 2019 19:22:26 GMT
I've always railed against that one. People think the '94 Expos were the '27 Yankees or the Big Red Machine. The WS Trophy already had their name on it. They were a very good team. And I could sit here from now until Christmas naming good teams that didn't win it all.
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 25, 2019 19:26:13 GMT
I've always railed against that one. People think the '94 Expos were the '27 Yankees or the Big Red Machine. The WS Trophy already had their name on it. They were a very good team. And I could sit here from now until Christmas naming good teams that didn't win it all. The 2001 Mariners were 85-33 on August 12.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 25, 2019 19:39:11 GMT
I've always railed against that one. People think the '94 Expos were the '27 Yankees or the Big Red Machine. The WS Trophy already had their name on it. They were a very good team. And I could sit here from now until Christmas naming good teams that didn't win it all. The 2001 Mariners were 85-33 on August 12. The 1978 Red Sox were 57-25 at the AS Break, with a winning percentage of .695. The Expos were playing .649 ball. Only 6 games ahead of the Braves. The Expos started out a paltry 17-15 and got better as the season went along. A team that had Darren Fletcher, Mike Lansing and Sean Berry as starters. All their offense was in the outfield. If Alou, Grissom or Walker got hurt, the Expos would hurt. If Pedro got hurt, this team was done.
Was it the proverbial iceberg that sunk the Expos? I doubt they could have kept Larry Walker and Moises Alou and there was no way they could pay Pedro, whether they won the WS or not.
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Post by Beardy McJewsenheimer ESQ on Oct 26, 2019 7:15:56 GMT
After seing 538's 2016 election simulations, the only thing I can surmise is that the Expos would have probably won the World Series
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 26, 2019 12:44:55 GMT
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Post by millar70 on Oct 26, 2019 19:48:37 GMT
Wait, I thought it was the Russians that cost her the election? Or was it those awful white husbands, forcing their white slave wives to vote for Trump? Or was it Fox News, spreading their propaganda to force those deplorables to vote against her? Or was it the ghost of Vince Forster? Or was it that she was just an awful candidate, an entitled hypocrite snob who was so protected from a fawning media that were both so out of touch with real Americans, that felt she could just mail it in and have that precious glass ceiling shatter?
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Oct 26, 2019 22:26:04 GMT
I think pars 1 & 3 played a small part, 3 moreso than 1, but your last par is the single biggest reason. The thing is that the public's issues with Clinton's directly reflect the wider public's feelings toward her party, and they've done absolutely nothing to adress that.
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Post by Rufus-T on Oct 27, 2019 1:24:20 GMT
That 1994 Yankees team was quite strong.
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Post by loofapotato on Oct 27, 2019 6:14:47 GMT
We may never what the outcome would've been because of the strike.
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Post by loofapotato on Oct 27, 2019 6:40:25 GMT
That 1994 Yankees team was quite strong. You know who was also strong? The Seattle Mariners, they were making a strong run at the end of the season. They had the very last game of the 1994 season before the strike down in Oakland vs the A's. Seattle won and were only 1/2 game behind the Texas Rangers for the AL West with another month in the season to go. If it wasn't for the strike, Seattle could've won the West or a Wild Card spot. 1994 would've been the first year of the Wild Card format if it wasn't for the strike. What Seattle did in it's 1995 run having it's first ever playoff birth beating the Angels in an extra one off game to determine the AL West winner and then the Yankees in the post season was just an extension of what they did in the previous year. A lot of bandwagon Seattle Mariner fans from 1995 don't seem to know this. I know because 1994 was the year I started to watch baseball games regularly as in about every Mariner game. Mariner home games in the Kingdome barely had 12,000-15,000 fans in 1994 for nearly the entire season as compared to to the 50,000-58,000 when they were phenomenal in the second half of 1995.
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Post by Rufus-T on Oct 28, 2019 0:04:10 GMT
That 1994 Yankees team was quite strong. You know who was also strong? The Seattle Mariners, they were making a strong run at the end of the season. They had the very last game of the 1994 season before the strike down in Oakland vs the A's. Seattle won and were only 1/2 game behind the Texas Rangers for the AL West with another month in the season to go. If it wasn't for the strike, Seattle could've won the West or a Wild Card spot. 1994 would've been the first year of the Wild Card format if it wasn't for the strike. What Seattle did in it's 1995 run having it's first ever playoff birth beating the Angels in an extra one off game to determine the AL West winner and then the Yankees in the post season was just an extension of what they did in the previous year. A lot of bandwagon Seattle Mariner fans from 1995 don't seem to know this. I know because 1994 was the year I started to watch baseball games regularly as in about every Mariner game. Mariner home games in the Kingdome barely had 12,000-15,000 fans in 1994 for nearly the entire season as compared to to the 50,000-58,000 when they were phenomenal in the second half of 1995. That Mariners teams from mid 90s to early 00s were awesome! They should have gone to the WS at least once in that run. Too bad for them the contenders like the Indians, Orioles, and especially the Yankees were also very strong and could not get past these teams. They reminded me a lot of the NBA 90s Knicks team that were great but just couldn't get that championship with many strong contenders around especially Michael Jordan & the Bulls.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 4, 2019 18:16:55 GMT
What was tougher on baseball, the strike or the fact that a Canadian team won back to back titles the two previous seasons?
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Post by njcardfan on Nov 5, 2019 19:11:06 GMT
Wait, I thought it was the Russians that cost her the election? Or was it those awful white husbands, forcing their white slave wives to vote for Trump? Or was it Fox News, spreading their propaganda to force those deplorables to vote against her? Or was it the ghost of Vince Forster? Or was it that she was just an awful candidate, an entitled hypocrite snob who was so protected from a fawning media that were both so out of touch with real Americans, that felt she could just mail it in and have that precious glass ceiling shatter? Hillary Clinton was being set up for a coronation. Anyone who got in her way ended up unpersoned(Seth Rich anyone?). The DNC screwed Bernie Sanders in order to guarantee her the nomination then they made the biggest mistake of all: they underestimated Donald Trump. Hillary didn't bother campaigning in the Rust Belt thinking she had those states in the bag as well as Pennsylvania. Also, Benghazi was still fresh in everyone's mind not to mention her calling half the voters in the country "irredeemable deplorables" and looking completely awful in the debates(Trump cleaner her clock in every one). Not to mention she's just a terrible person who believed it was her birthright to be president. This is the reason why Trump is so universally hated and why the left needs to make up BS about him as well as this phony impeachment proceeding(which is going to cost the Democrats severely). Politics in America is broken down to 2 factions now: The incredibly corrupt Democrats and the spineless jellyfish Republicans.
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Post by njcardfan on Nov 5, 2019 19:15:58 GMT
Anyhoo, back on point. The Expos were playing great baseball by the time the season shut down and the Braves were not guaranteed a playoff spot as the Astros were hot on their heels as well. The Yankees were good but, well, Buck Showalter. And people discount Ken Hill's contribution to the Expo pitching rotation. He was 16-5 at seasons end. I didn't see any NL team beating them.
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Post by fjenkins on Nov 5, 2019 22:10:24 GMT
I think the Expos had a solid shot in 94 but I don't feel bad for them in any way. They striked just like the rest of the players. And when you had an idiot as commissioner, it was doomed from the start.
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Post by sublime92 on Nov 7, 2019 1:40:51 GMT
I see where you're coming from but this came to mind about many of her supporters...
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