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Post by darkpast on Oct 26, 2019 2:55:14 GMT
Do you agree with the nomination?
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Oct 26, 2019 9:03:23 GMT
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 26, 2019 15:20:39 GMT
Pretty stupid.
But ya know. It's the razzies. Not intended to be taken seriously.
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Post by amyghost on Oct 26, 2019 15:40:35 GMT
I didn't know Stephen King was one of the judges for the Razzies.
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Post by cryptoflovecraft on Oct 26, 2019 17:04:26 GMT
Do you agree with the nomination? Absolutely not. The Shining is one of the greatest horror films ever made.
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Post by TheSowIsMine on Oct 26, 2019 20:24:44 GMT
NO!
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 26, 2019 20:25:22 GMT
I agree with it just as a reminder that stupid people misjudge movies upon release, and a divisive movie now can be unanimously considered a classic in a few decades.
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Post by rogerthat on Oct 26, 2019 23:39:58 GMT
No.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Nov 1, 2019 11:09:42 GMT
Yes.
Although he was the master at gorgeous cinematography and music scoring, he almost always fell flat, particularly with later films, with character depth. The opening of The Shining held so much promise. Once Duval and Nicholson opened their mouths, it was like comics relief. They were cardboard, cartoonish cutouts. Kubrick should have stuck with photography.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 1, 2019 12:24:41 GMT
Yes.
Kubrick should have stuck with photography. Hahahaha.. Yeah he clearly made the wrong career choice. Didn't work out for him. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 15:05:48 GMT
My daughter has never forgiven Kubrick for The Shining.
In the book, Wendy is a strong, independent minded woman.
In the film, Kubrick made Wendy a pathetic, weak, wet doormat.
I'm inclined to agree with our kid.
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Post by nostromo on Nov 1, 2019 15:09:06 GMT
My daughter has never forgiven Kubrick for The Shining. In the book, Wendy is a strong, independent minded woman. In the film, Kubrick made Wendy a pathetic, weak, wet doormat. I'm inclined to agree with our kid. Jaws is different to the book too. That's because it's a film. Not a book.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Nov 1, 2019 18:47:15 GMT
My daughter has never forgiven Kubrick for The Shining. In the book, Wendy is a strong, independent minded woman. In the film, Kubrick made Wendy a pathetic, weak, wet doormat. I'm inclined to agree with our kid. Jaws is different to the book too. That's because it's a film. Not a book.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 2, 2019 1:01:27 GMT
Jaws is different to the book too. That's because it's a film. Not a book. Nicholson gets derided for being a bit too over-the-top. Some subtlety wouldn't have gone astray. I don't get why Kubrick didn't see this. He perhaps felt he couldn't intimidate or direct Nicholson, the way he bullied Shelly Duvall. He just let Nicholson give his own interpretation.
Duvall is perhaps the main reason for me to watch The Shining. I think she is terrific. She was pressured and abused into giving the performance that she gave and I find her very real and raw and unnerved. This is what Kubrick wanted, however, I don't think he gave Shelly enough credit for her own unique talent of being spontaneous and in the moment. She gave one of the best American performances in my personal opinion ever, in Robert Altman's 3 Women - 77'. This won her the Cannes award for best actress and deservedly so. Pity the Academy dismissed a nomination for her.
Wendy in the book, I feel was more King's interpretation of a what he wanted in a woman. Kubrick's wanted to go with a more realistic approach to the kind of woman Jack Torrance would have attracted. Overall, I am not that fond of either King's novel, nor Kubrick's interpretation of it. It is too cold and clinical and lacks genuine and raw terror, which is only really imparted by Duvall.
He made a misstep and was also egotistical and arrogant by apparently making claims he was going to deliver the scariest horror film ever. What a despot! He failed to deliver what he promised. At least he somewhat got back on track 7yrs later with Full Metal Jacket - 87', which while flawed, is actually somewhat of a "classic" now. The Shining appears to strive for that label, but really has more of cult following than anything. It is too dated also.
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Post by northernlad on Nov 2, 2019 1:37:18 GMT
The Shining...the film, is a good horror movie, but it's not Stephen King's story. There's absolutely no warmth in the film and it is so much so that at times it's difficult to believe that this Jack and this Wendy would have ever married each other. I don't find them believable as a married couple whatsoever. I do enjoy JN's performance however and the movie used to scare the hell out of me when I was a kid. Now when I watch it, there are a few times when I have to laugh at how the two main characters interact with each other (Jack and Wendy).
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Post by politicidal on Nov 2, 2019 16:12:04 GMT
Pretty stupid. But ya know. It's the razzies. Not intended to be taken seriously. people forget that sometimes. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Nov 2, 2019 19:06:19 GMT
The characters are bizarro but the film's strength is the atmosphere.
One of the first big budget horror films where it could be spooky with bright lights everywhere.
I was surprised to learn the snow scenes outside were mostly salt.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on Nov 2, 2019 20:55:08 GMT
Kubrick is a legend, his version of The Shining was so epic, so preferred by the masses, that it has even influenced Doctor Sleep, because they knew it would flop otherwise. Even King seems to have softened towards Kubrick film recently, or maybe I'm just reading it that way.
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Post by Zos on Nov 7, 2019 13:05:21 GMT
Good film but way way overrated. Jack chewing the scenery took all the menace out of the performance for me. Would have been better underplayed if anything.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 14, 2019 14:27:16 GMT
Kubrick is a legend, his version of The Shining was so epic, so preferred by the masses, that it has even influenced Doctor Sleep, because they knew it would flop otherwise. Even King seems to have softened towards Kubrick film recently, or maybe I'm just reading it that way. Because The Shining is Kubrick and he brought his own vision to light of what the Overlook was like, this has left an indelible impression in the minds of many. Heck, even Spielberg's Ready Player One parodied it.
For those that haven't read the book but seen the film, The Shining design and cult following would have likely influenced King to be more accepting of what was presented. Cultural relevance. I haven't read, nor seen Doctor Sleep yet, so can't comment how King wrote his Overlook passages, but the DS film appears to have taken its Overlook design as a direct homage to Kubrick's vision and not Kings.
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