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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Apr 17, 2017 21:42:54 GMT
The Red Man's View (1909) is planning to get remade as The Red Man's View (2018).
No, I'm not kidding.
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Post by Richard Kimble on Apr 17, 2017 21:45:05 GMT
Cecil B:
The Virginian
The Squaw Man
King of Kings
Ten Commandments
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Apr 17, 2017 21:48:53 GMT
The Sentimental Bloke (1919) was remade as The Sentimental Bloke (1932). But that's not all! The Sentimental Bloke (1976) was a musical TV movie version. Just to make things more interesting, The Sentimental Bloke (1963) was a ballet TV version. So, it's been a silent, a talkie, a musical and a ballet.
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Apr 17, 2017 21:59:44 GMT
Rewi's Last Stand (1925) is a New Zealand feature film directed by Rudall Hayward, who remade it as Rewi's Last Stand (1940).
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Post by Froggy on Apr 17, 2017 22:01:48 GMT
There is a completely bizarre and offensive (as in racially insensitively so) 1925 silent slapstick version of The Wizard of Oz, with Oliver Hardy in a supporting role as the woodsman.
A 1929 silent version of The Four Feathers exists, with (among others) William Powell, Fay Wray, and Noah Beery.
Tons of other movies qualify, depending on how broadly we define "film" and "remade." (As in there are a lot of sketchy early silents based on literary works that were later properly adapted as sound films.)
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Apr 17, 2017 22:08:27 GMT
There is a completely bizarre and offensive (as in racially insensitively so) 1925 silent slapstick version of The Wizard of Oz, with Oliver Hardy in a supporting role as the woodsman. Other adaptations during the silent era included The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (1910, which isn't too bad), and the now-lost The Fairylogue and Radio-Plays (1908). |
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Post by Doghouse6 on Apr 17, 2017 22:47:39 GMT
Gosh, there are so many; probably more than anyone cold possibly recall. One of the characteristics of the early talkie era was relatively rapid recycling of material that had been done silently only a handful of years earlier.
Lon Chaney did The Unholy Three in '25 and again in '30. George Arliss redid several of his silent films as talkies in fairly short order: Disraeli ('21 & '29); The Man Who Played God ('22 & '32); The Green Goddess ('23 & '30). Greta Garbo appeared as Anna Karenina in 1927's Love and 1935's Anna Karenina. Gloria Swanson did Sadie Thompson in '28, Joan Crawford took the role in '32 (Rain), as did Rita Hayworth in '53 (Miss Sadie Thompson). Some others coming to mind:
The Bat (1926), The Bat Whispers (1930), The Bat (1959)
The Cat and the Canary (1927, 1939)
The Hunchback Of Notre Dame (1923, 1939, 1956 and probably some others, animated or otherwise)
The Phantom Of the Opera (1925, 1943, 1962 and again as above...I'm not sure if the 2004 should count, being a film adaptation of a book musical adaptation)
The Lodger (1927, 1944)
Also various incarnations of classic stories like Robin Hood, The Thief Of Bagdad and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde; 1922's Nosferatu is Dracula in all but name; recountings of Cleopatra and other historical figures...numerous others I might remember later. I'd wager that if someone set out to catalogue them all, it could prove well nigh impossible.
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Apr 18, 2017 2:27:39 GMT
If we count play adaptations, how about Lady Windermere's Fan?
Two silent versions, one in 1916 and one in 1925, exist of the play. I enjoyed the 1925 version but haven't seen it in years.
In terms of talkies, there is El abanico de Lady Windermere (1944), which is a Mexican version, Lady Windermeres Fächer (1935). which is a German version, The Fan (1949) is a English-language version, Historia de una mala mujer (1948) is an Argentina version, A Good Woman (2004) was some sort of co-production, and there is also Lady Windermere's Fan (2014) which has less than 5 ratings on IMDb.
But that's not all! After all, why should cinema have all the fun? British Television has offered at least three versions. ITV Playhouse offered a version in 1967, BBC Play of the Month did a version in 1972 which is lost (that hasn't stopped 16 people from rating it on IMDb!!), while Theatre Night did a version in 1985. But wait, there's more! French television did L'éventail de Lady Windermere (1961), and Yugoslavia did Lepeza ledi Vindemir (1975).
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Apr 18, 2017 3:00:30 GMT
Not remakes by any means, but on the subject of a work adapted for both silents and talkies...
Despite being an opera, Cavalleria rusticana saw various silent film versions, including:
1909, in Brazil
1910, in France
1911, in Brazil (again?)
1915, in Brazil (really?)
1916, in Italy
1916, again in Italy (hmm...)
1917, in Germany
1924, in Italy
Talkie versions included:
1939, Italy (a non-opera production)
1953, Italy
2013, Greece (hey, better late than never!!)
As usual, television (particularly public/state television) decided to do its share of versions as well, including:
1956, Dominican Republic (I seriously didn't know that country had TV in the 1950s!!)
1959, Australia (probably a victim of the 1970s mass-disposal of B&W kinescopes)
1966, Finland
1968, co-production between West Germany and Austria
1976, Japan
1978, USA (on a double-bill with Pagliacci)
1982, co-production between Italy and West Germany
1990, Italy( yes, Italy did silent, talkie and TV versions)
1992, USA, on a double-bill with Pagliacci
1996, Italy
2007, Italy (They must really love this opera!! Maybe they should get the patch?)
2010, Germany
It seems there is an additional TV version from the early 70s not listed on IMDb. Maybe there are other TV versions? (IMDb is pretty lacking when it comes to old European TV shows).
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Apr 18, 2017 3:04:15 GMT
The Sentimental Bloke (1919) was remade as The Sentimental Bloke (1932). But that's not all! The Sentimental Bloke (1976) was a musical TV movie version. Just to make things more interesting, The Sentimental Bloke (1963) was a ballet TV version. So, it's been a silent, a talkie, a musical and a ballet. Amazing. Much like The Phantom of the Opera, though as far as I know that hasn't been a ballet yet. Your title may hold some kind of record. Yep, all the Sentimental Bloke needs to complete the set is a cartoon version and a porno version. Unfortunately, cartoon films and pornos generally aren't produced in Australia, so it looks like the set won't be completed any time soon. |
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Post by neurosturgeon on Apr 18, 2017 3:05:44 GMT
A few years ago, I was trying to find out some information about a friend of my housemate. He had lost contact with the guy in the early 1980's, and I started searching census records linked to the Family Search database. I found out that this guy was residing in the household of child actor Philippe De Lacy in 1930, the year Philippe made his last film at the age of 13.
Philippe De LacY was in many of the great silent films that were later remade, playing a star at a young age or the son of the star. His films include:
Love - Garbo's silent "Anna Karenina"
Flesh and the Devil
Four Feathers
Beau Geste
Don Juan
The Way of All Flesh
Peter Pan
A Doll's House
As he hit puberty, he was no longer wanted. Later went to work for the Cinerama Corporation. But in his shor career, he did some classics.
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Post by teleadm on Apr 18, 2017 18:41:06 GMT
Hotel Imperial 1918, 1927 remade 1937 same Lajos Biró story.
Sir Arne's Treasure 1919 remade 1954 (Herr Arnes pengar in swedish)
The Phantom Carriage 1921 remade as La charrette fantôme 1939 and Körkarlen 1958
The Tower of Lies 1925 remade as Kejsarn av Portugallien 1944.
The Scarlet Letter 1908, 1911, 1913, 1917, 1920, 1926, 1973 and 1995, not counting TV versions, based on same Nathaniel Hawthorne novel.
The Secret Hour 1928 remade as A Lady to Love 1930 and as They Knew What They Wanted 1940, source for the broadway musical The Most Happy Fella
Under the Red Robe 1923 remade 1937.
All those above has a connection, that one version on each subject was directed by old silent swedish directors Mauritz Stiller or Victor Seastrom.
Forbidden Paradise 1924 remade as A Royal Scandal 1945
The Way of all Flesh 1928 remade 1940 and 1941 as Vissza az úton in Hungary
Night Watch 1928 remade 1932 as The Woman from Monte Carlo 1932
The Cat and the Canary 1927 remade as The Cat Creeps 1930, again as The Cat and the Canary 1939 and 1978
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Post by mattgarth on Apr 18, 2017 18:59:17 GMT
Way Down East
Broken Blossoms
The Enchanted Cottage
The Last of the Mohicans
The Black Watch / King of the Khyber Rifles
The Spoilers
The Student Prince
A Tale of Two Cities
Les Miserables
Riders of the Purple Sage
The Sea Hawk
Madame X
Oliver Twist
The White Sister
Stella Dallas
Beau Brummel
The Prisoner of Zenda
Humoresque
Daddy Long Legs
The Great Gatsby
Pollyanna
Under Two Flags
Captain January
Under the Red Robe
Ruggles of Red Gap
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Post by snsurone on Apr 18, 2017 22:32:19 GMT
Let's not forget THE LOST WORLD (1925 and 1962).
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Post by shawshanked on Apr 19, 2017 16:27:53 GMT
Would Chaplin's Gold Rush count?
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Post by shawshanked on Apr 19, 2017 19:43:48 GMT
Would Chaplin's Gold Rush count? I can't find any remake titles that would fit, shawshanked. If you can find one, please post it. I'm referring to the version he made in. 1942, where he added his own narration and edited a few scenes out. |
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Post by manfromplanetx on Apr 19, 2017 21:41:13 GMT
The Chaplin Revue is a 1959 film comprising three silent films made by Charlie Chaplin. The three shorts included are A Dog's Life, Shoulder Arms, and The Pilgrim. For the 1959 release, Chaplin added a soundtrack to help appeal to modern audiences, to achieve the feel of a modern print he stretch-printed the footage, which slowed it down to sound speed so music could be added properly.
Chaplin also added extra footage including clips from World War I to express the context and he provides a personal introduction to each of the clips.
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Apr 20, 2017 13:11:36 GMT
The Chaplin Revue is a 1959 film comprising three silent films made by Charlie Chaplin. The three shorts included are A Dog's Life, Shoulder Arms, and The Pilgrim. For the 1959 release, Chaplin added a soundtrack to help appeal to modern audiences, to achieve the feel of a modern print he stretch-printed the footage, which slowed it down to sound speed so music could be added properly. Chaplin also added extra footage including clips from World War I to express the context and he provides a personal introduction to each of the clips. I'm amazed by this information, as well as Shawshank's info about the sound version of THE GOLD RUSH. I had no idea about this. I'd love to see the sound versions of these silent classics. The WWI clips you mention are particularly interesting. Also, Chaplin's manipulations of the film speed. What a brilliant man he was. Thanks to you and to Shawshanked for enlightening me. (How did not know?!) There was also a mid-1960s TV series of Charlie Chaplin's films (done without his knowledge, as the early ones were public domain by then) called "The Charlie Chaplin Comedy Theatre", which also used a stretch-printing technique to allow the films to be played at correct speed. They were accompanied by narration (which fortunately lacked the offensive nature of earlier series like "Movie Museum"), which helped explain the scenes to the kids who watched the show. I saw an episode of it some years ago on a cheapo DVD, it was a good attempt back in the 60s to bring the films to a wider audience, although it is obsolete now. |
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Post by Lynx on Apr 20, 2017 15:05:12 GMT
Funny this topic should come up. One of my pet peeves is that the silent picture "Uncle Tom's Cabin" has never been given a proper movie epic the way it should be. Yes. there was a TV movie, I believe, in the Seventies or Eighties, which I didn't see but heard it was not the greatest.
I even emailed Mr. Spielberg (at Dreamworks)asking him to consider it for a future project. Don't know if he ever got it or read it.....but I tried.
It's a shame, because it's a Classic and a great story and a piece of History.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Apr 20, 2017 15:38:07 GMT
I'm referring to the version he made in. 1942, where he added his own narration and edited a few scenes out. Well, it depends upon one's definition of "remade." But as far as I'm concerned, as you describe it, I think it was remade through editing, though not re-shot, and it works for me. I wasn't aware of this version. Thanks so much for letting me know. It would be interesting to see.  Hmmm...if anyone asked me (nah, no one did), I'd have to consider that a "revision." Something similar but more extensive was done with The Phantom Of the Opera when, in 1929, Universal truncated the 1925 version and added newly-shot sound sequences for a 1930 re-issue. Then there's the case of Gojira which, rather like TPOTO, was shortened two years after its Japanese release by a U.S. distributor to accommodate the addition of newly-shot scenes with Raymond Burr (along with doubles for original cast members), and released as Godzilla, King Of the Monsters. As you suggest, it's difficult determining what qualifies without consensus on terminology. From my point of view, I couldn't consider any of those examples "remakes." |
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