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Post by klawrencio79 on Dec 4, 2019 19:48:17 GMT
I saw 5 years $100 million. 5 years, $118m. Just saw it.
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Post by NJtoTX on Dec 4, 2019 19:50:08 GMT
Wheeler dealers
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Dec 4, 2019 19:54:51 GMT
I saw 5 years $100 million. 5 years, $118m. Just saw it.ย Is he any good? I havenโt followed him much. I get third starter kind of vibes.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Dec 4, 2019 20:07:00 GMT
5 years, $118m. Just saw it. Is he any good? I havenโt followed him much. I get third starter kind of vibes. In the 2nd half of 2018 he was amazing. He has the ability to be a front-line starter, just never put it together over the course of a full season.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Dec 4, 2019 20:07:52 GMT
What can you tell us about him? Was reading he's 29 and ERA was 4.00 last year but can still hit upper 90s. I'm not quite sure if this replaces Nola as the #1. I'm thinking more of a #2 and Nola is still the #1 or am I off?
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Dec 4, 2019 20:19:12 GMT
Per Rosenthal -
White Sox offered more money - but Wheeler's wife is from Jersey.
Was just reading he had Tommy John 2015 - but has been a workhorse since coming back.
I guess the rotation is Nola, Wheeler, Arrieta, Eflin - now sign Bumgarner since we lost out on Hamels.
Pivetta and Velasquez moved to the pen.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Dec 4, 2019 20:21:18 GMT
What can you tell us about him? Was reading he's 29 and ERA was 4.00 last year but can still hit upper 90s. I'm not quite sure if this replaces Nola as the #1. I'm thinking more of a #2 and Nola is still the #1 or am I off? He's 29 but he has missed a TON of time due to injury, so you can say that he's really now just entering his prime. He's not a #1, at least not now, but rather than looking at season stats, check out his splits on baseball reference. In the first halves of seasons, he's been middling at best. ERAs well into the 4s, WHIPs over 1.3. But from the ASG on, he's been vastly better, with ERAs in the high 2s/low 3s and a WHIP nearly .2 points lower. The Phillies are banking on him taking his game to the next level. Personally, I think leaving the northeast corridor would have been his best bet. A bit less media scrutiny and more level-headed fans, like in Atlanta, probably would have resulted in Wheeler taking that next step, but I still think he's a quality addition to any rotation.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 4, 2019 21:49:40 GMT
Thatโs a lot of green for an up and down pitcher. He was the guy to bid for if you didnโt want to spend the silly money on Cole or Strasbourg. Heโs not going to be the #1 starter in Philadelphia which will benefit him.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Dec 4, 2019 22:16:18 GMT
Is Stephen Strasburg really going to get Cole kind of money? I had to google his age - heโs 31 but Iโd have sworn he was at least 5 years older than that. Some tram isnโt going to get their moneyโs worth with him.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 4, 2019 23:41:56 GMT
Jays have all the money in the world because rookie contracts... so they'll end up with junk because f'n Atkins-Shaprio are idiots.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Dec 4, 2019 23:48:56 GMT
Jays have all the money in the world because rookie contracts... so they'll end up with junk because f'n Atkins-Shaprio are idiots. As of now, the Blue Jays highest paid player next year will be....Troy Tulowitzki, raking in a cool $14m. The highest paid player on the team will be Randall Grichuk, pulling in $13m.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 4, 2019 23:50:27 GMT
Jays have all the money in the world because rookie contracts... so they'll end up with junk because f'n Atkins-Shaprio are idiots. As of now, the Blue Jays highest paid player next year will be....Troy Tulowitzki, raking in a cool $14m. The highest paid player on the team will be Randall Grichuk, pulling in $13m. Drunk buzz du jour - Red Sox if they ditched Mookie could trade overpriced David Price for Grichuk. Party on.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 5, 2019 0:00:01 GMT
As of now, the Blue Jays highest paid player next year will be....Troy Tulowitzki, raking in a cool $14m.ย The highest paid player on the team will be Randall Grichuk, pulling in $13m.ย ย Drunk buzz du jour - Red Sox if they ditched Mookie could trade overpriced David Price for Grichuk. Party on. I donโt think Mookie is going anywhere. The Sox are going to have to get a lot for him or the Nation will scream. But no one will cough up a ton of prospects for a potential one year rental
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 0:53:24 GMT
The Hamels deal isnt too bad since it's just one year. Not exactly who I was hoping for but he can be a good #3 or #4 in the Braves rotation. I imagine the rotation will shape up as follows: Soroka, Fried, Folty, Hamels, with the fifth spot going to either another FA or a competition of Newcomb, Wright, Wilson.
Zach Wheeler is a solid get for the Phillies. I wanted him but I'd of hated the contract he got. He has tons of potential but just hasnt lived up to it quite yet.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Dec 5, 2019 9:28:42 GMT
Doesn't appear to be a lot of Dallas Keuchel talk this year like last year after he signed a 1 year $13 million contract for the Braves last year.
He went 8-8 last year with a 3.75 ERA.
If missing out on Gerrit Cole and Cole Hamels - I'd be happy with Wheeler, Keuchel, Bumgarner.
Curious when Didi Gregorius signs - apparently Philly is a front runner and could move Segura to 2nd.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Dec 5, 2019 18:37:06 GMT
The Hamels deal isnt too bad since it's just one year. Not exactly who I was hoping for but he can be a good #3 or #4 in the Braves rotation. I imagine the rotation will shape up as follows: Soroka, Fried, Folty, Hamels, with the fifth spot going to either another FA or a competition of Newcomb, Wright, Wilson. Zach Wheeler is a solid get for the Phillies. I wanted him but I'd of hated the contract he got. He has tons of potential but just hasnt lived up to it quite yet. 100% this. I don't think you were on the board at this point last year, but I remember when the Braves signed Donaldson and most people were up in arms because of the dollars attached to it. Nonsense I said; a 1 year deal makes it virtually irrelevant. If he's healthy, it's great, if he isn't, he's gone at the end of the year anyway. I'm always in favor of 1 year deals, especially for a team like the Braves which is in a position to win now and can really use a guy like Hamels without having to get saddled with a huge contract. If the team continues to win, it's going to need reserve capital to lock up younger players (even though they've done a brilliant job of that thus far). Plus, Hamels has a much better track record than does Wheeler, even if Wheeler's upside is higher at this point in their respective careers. Dammit, the Braves are so well run throughout their entire system, it is infuriating as a Met fan. The Mets are so dysfunctional and when I see teams like the Braves building organizational depth, patching holes without assraping their prospect pool, entering into long-term mutually beneficial contracts with its young stars, I just scratch my head in disbelief at how easy it seems to properly manage a franchise. I'm sure there are bumps in the road....but not many that I can see from up here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 22:49:15 GMT
The Hamels deal isnt too bad since it's just one year. Not exactly who I was hoping for but he can be a good #3 or #4 in the Braves rotation. I imagine the rotation will shape up as follows: Soroka, Fried, Folty, Hamels, with the fifth spot going to either another FA or a competition of Newcomb, Wright, Wilson. Zach Wheeler is a solid get for the Phillies. I wanted him but I'd of hated the contract he got. He has tons of potential but just hasnt lived up to it quite yet. 100% this. I don't think you were on the board at this point last year, but I remember when the Braves signed Donaldson and most people were up in arms because of the dollars attached to it. Nonsense I said; a 1 year deal makes it virtually irrelevant. If he's healthy, it's great, if he isn't, he's gone at the end of the year anyway. I'm always in favor of 1 year deals, especially for a team like the Braves which is in a position to win now and can really use a guy like Hamels without having to get saddled with a huge contract. If the team continues to win, it's going to need reserve capital to lock up younger players (even though they've done a brilliant job of that thus far). Plus, Hamels has a much better track record than does Wheeler, even if Wheeler's upside is higher at this point in their respective careers. Dammit, the Braves are so well run throughout their entire system, it is infuriating as a Met fan. The Mets are so dysfunctional and when I see teams like the Braves building organizational depth, patching holes without assraping their prospect pool, entering into long-term mutually beneficial contracts with its young stars, I just scratch my head in disbelief at how easy it seems to properly manage a franchise. I'm sure there are bumps in the road....but not many that I can see from up here. Last year I wasnt fond of the Donaldson move for a few reasons that all turned out to be incorrect. I thought he wouldnt be healthy so that much money seemed too much. Turned out it wasnt. I also thought Johan Camargo was solid at 3B the year before so signing a 3B instead of an OF seemed wrong as well. Turned out Camargo couldnt hit a lick this year and was demoted to the minors. I like that Hamels said he wants to tutor younger pitchers. I'm hoping he can teach Fried his change up and help Newcomb with commanding his pitches. The Braves have had their own bumps in the road over the years. Their GM got caught cheating and was banned for life and nearly gutted the farm system at the time. Luckily guys like Acuna, Albies, Soroka were all brought in by the previous GM. Plus there was the BJ Upton contract that killed them and Dan Uggla for a while. But I get what you're saying. They were able to rebuild pretty quickly by drafting well and organized. The Mets are just...for lack of a better word a mess. Any move they make I tend to question.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Dec 5, 2019 23:29:49 GMT
klawrencio79 - Heard the Wilpons were considering selling their share of the Mets. That's great news, right?
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Post by klawrencio79 on Dec 5, 2019 23:46:05 GMT
klawrencio79 - Heard the Wilpons were considering selling their share of the Mets. That's great news, right? Anything to get rid of the Wilpons having a controlling interest is good news, even if the guy is something of a snake who serves as the inspiration for Bobby Axelrod. The Wilpons are terrible, meddling owners who want nothing but yes men running the team. They influence team decisions and the sooner they're gone, the better.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Dec 6, 2019 16:48:34 GMT
Pads hire former Yanks pitching coach Larry Rothschild as pitching coach.
Gnats reach 1 year deal with Howie Kendrick
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