How did the Ravens beat the Pats?

Then there are those of us who are in their 40s who destroy your bullshit arguments every time you repeat them.  Let's be honest.  If the Patriots weren't any good you wouldn't have any reason to be on this board.  You pretend to be a Cowboys fan but you never talk about them.  You never start any threads about them, all you ever talk about is the Patriots.  You do it for attention, and honestly it's sad.  Calling out a poster because you're bored and you'd rather argue with someone instead of just shooting the shit about sports.  It's sad.      

Don't go changing.....

To try and please me.

You never let me down before.....

Us old time Patriots fans welcome "bandwagon" fans. The more the merrier. It's been one continuous street party, spanning two friggin' decades! Woohoo!

If the Dallas Cowboys hadn't sucked ass for the last 20+ years, they might have attracted some 21st century bandwagon fans ... so don't be so transparently bitter, cupcake. There's nothing worse than a senile old man, barking at anyone within earshot about a bygone era that no one gives two shits about.

It wasn't because the Pats wanted to come out as a team. It was simply because the real star of the team couldn't come out: Matt Walsh, who filmed opposing teams' signals from the sidelines.

1st, you've just proven that Pats fans are so dumb that they don't understand anything about sports. Because only an idiot would say that stealing signals doesn't provide an advantage. The fact is stealing signals provides a huge advantage because when you know what the opponent is going to do before the play begins, that's a huge advantage.

That's why NFL teams try to steal signals. That's also why MLB teams try to steal signals for the next pitch. If the batter knows the next pitch is a fastball and not a curveball or changeup, that's an advantage to the batter. If a baserunner on 1st base knows the next pitch is a pitchout, that's an advantage to the baserunner. So IT'S STUPID TO CLAIM THAT STEALING SIGNALS DOESN'T PROVIDE AN ADVANTAGE!

2nd, no one ever said stealing signals is against the rules or cheating. Stealing signals isn't against the rules or cheating as long as it's done within the rules. Filming opponents' signals from the sidelines is against the rules and is cheating. And that's what the Pats did and that's how the Pats won their first 3 Super Bowls - by cheating with SpyGate.

It's hilarious when dcfan loses an argument and the opponent doesn't even have to lift a finger.

hehatesshe said, unfair advantage. It was you who turned it into just, advantage.
That's quite the reading comprehension problem you've got there, champ. Perhaps you should have someone explain things to you before replying ... like a nurse or orderly who stops by to change those Depends ... or do they tend to flee as fast as possible to avoid listening to your anti-Patriots fairy tales?

Still not getting it, can you please explain it again? 

Once again, simply recording signals in a way that's within the rules provides an advantage but not necessarily an unfair advantage and isn't cheating. The unfair advantage results when a team records signals in a way that's against the rules, like the Pats did with SpyGate.

And no, there's no reason to ban recording signals completely if it's done within the rules and doesn't provide an unfair advantage within the rules. In MLB, a baserunner on 2nd base can see the catcher give pitch signals to the pitcher and can tip off the batter on what the pitch is going to be. Should MLB have a rule that says "A baserunner on 2nd base can't look at the catcher's signals."? Or a rule that says "A baserunner on 2nd base can't tip off the batter on what the next pitch is going to be."?

No, of course not. A baserunner on 2nd base is allowed to look at the catcher and allowed to raise an arm, tip his cap, or however else he want to tip off the batter. That manner of stealing signals is within the rules and isn't cheating.

But what an MLB team isn't allowed to do is place hidden cameras and microphones in the visiting team's dugout to steal signals and strategy. That manner of stealing signals is against the rules and is cheating.

Similarly, simply filming signals in the NFL as long as it's done within the rules isn't cheating and doesn't provide an unfair advantage (because every team is allowed to do it). But filming from the sidelines is against the rules and is cheating because it provides an unfair advantage (because teams aren't allowed to do it so the teams that break that rule and cheat gain an unfair advantage over the teams that follow the rules).

The Pats filmed signals outside of the rules so they gained an unfair advantage and that's how they won their first 3 Super Bowls - by cheating with SpyGate.

But it's the same fucking signals you maniac, no matter where you record from. It's the exact same fucking signal.