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Post by sadsaak on Nov 5, 2019 14:30:19 GMT
One of mine is Granville Sharp (1735-1813)
He was not a particularly attractive character, being a trustafarian, prig and somewhat pedantic. But if he did not found the anti slavery movement in the UK, he certainly helped kick start it.
Who is yours?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 5, 2019 14:53:14 GMT
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Post by koskiewicz on Nov 5, 2019 16:53:36 GMT
A few in no certain order:
Erwin Rommel
Teddy Roosevelt
Lou Gehrig
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Post by hi224 on Nov 5, 2019 17:08:04 GMT
Way too many to name but Catherine the great Erwin Rommel Alexander the Great Galileo
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 5, 2019 18:18:29 GMT
George H. Thomas (best ACW General) Napoleon I (painted with the "Hitler Paintbrush" not a saint but no Hitler) Field Marshal William Slim (a modest WWII general. Unique. And capable) Abraham Lincoln
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Post by sadsaak on Nov 5, 2019 18:38:21 GMT
Way too many to name but Catherine the great Erwin Rommel Alexander the Great Galileo I always liked Jacob Bronowski's description of Galileo as being a man with more children than a bachelor should have
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Post by sadsaak on Nov 5, 2019 18:39:47 GMT
George H. Thomas (best ACW General) Napoleon I (painted with the "Hitler Paintbrush" not a saint but no Hitler) Field Marshal William Slim (a modest WWII general. Unique. And capable) Abraham Lincoln Was it AJP Taylor who described Slim as a modest man with very little to be modest about?
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 5, 2019 18:43:54 GMT
George H. Thomas (best ACW General) Napoleon I (painted with the "Hitler Paintbrush" not a saint but no Hitler) Field Marshal William Slim (a modest WWII general. Unique. And capable) Abraham Lincoln Was it AJP Taylor who described Slim as a modest man with very little to be modest about? I don't know but it's a damned good quote.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 5, 2019 19:19:02 GMT
Abraham Lincoln
Napoleon Bonaparte
TE Lawrence
Roy Chapman Andrews
Benjamin Franklin
Ivan the Terrible
Theodore Roosevelt
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Post by sadsaak on Nov 5, 2019 19:24:46 GMT
Abraham Lincoln Napoleon Bonaparte TE Lawrence Roy Chapman Andrews Benjamin Franklin Ivan the Terrible Theodore Roosevelt Benjamin Franklin, Advice to a Young Man on the Choice of a Mistress (1745). June 25, 1745 My dear Friend, I know of no Medicine fit to diminish the violent natural Inclinations you mention; and if I did, I think I should not communicate it to you. Marriage is the proper Remedy. It is the most natural State of Man, and therefore the State in which you are most likely to find solid Happiness. Your Reasons against entering into it at present, appear to me not well-founded. The circumstantial Advantages you have in View by postponing it, are not only uncertain, but they are small in comparison with that of the Thing itself, the being married and settled. It is the Man and Woman united that make the compleat human Being. Separate, she wants his Force of Body and Strength of Reason; he, her Softness, Sensibility and acute Discernment. Together they are more likely to succeed in the World. A single Man has not nearly the Value he would have in that State of Union. He is an incomplete Animal. He resembles the odd Half of a Pair of Scissars. If you get a prudent healthy Wife, your Industry in your Profession, with her good Economy, will be a Fortune sufficient. But if you will not take this Counsel, and persist in thinking a Commerce with the Sex inevitable, then I repeat my former Advice, that in all your Amours you should prefer old Women to young ones. You call this a Paradox, and demand my Reasons. They are these: i. Because as they have more Knowledge of the World and their Minds are better stor'd with Observations, their Conversation is more improving and more lastingly agreable. 2. Because when Women cease to be handsome, they study to be good. To maintain their Influence over Men, they supply the Diminution of Beauty by an Augmentation of Utility. They learn to do a 1000 Services small and great, and are the most tender and useful of all Friends when you are sick. Thus they continue amiable. And hence there is hardly such a thing to be found as an old Woman who is not a good Woman. 3. Because there is no hazard of Children, which irregularly produc'd may be attended with much Inconvenience. 4. Because thro' more Experience, they are more prudent and discreet in conducting an Intrigue to prevent Suspicion. The Commerce with them is therefore safer with regard to your Reputation. And with regard to theirs, if the Affair should happen to be known, considerate People might be rather inclin'd to excuse an old Woman who would kindly take care of a young Man, form his Manners by her good Counsels, and prevent his ruining his Health and Fortune among mercenary Prostitutes. 5. Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part: The Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower Parts continuing to the last as plump as ever: So that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding2 only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old from a young one. And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement. 6. Because the Sin is less. The debauching a Virgin may be her Ruin, and make her for Life unhappy. 7. Because the Compunction is less. The having made a young Girl miserable may give you frequent bitter Reflections; none of which can attend the making an old Woman happy. 8thly and Lastly They are so grateful!! Thus much for my Paradox. But still I advise you to marry directly; being sincerely Your affectionate Friend.
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Post by njcardfan on Nov 7, 2019 2:15:10 GMT
Thomas Paine George Washington Frederick Douglas Audie Murphy George Patton Harry Truman Joshua Chamberlain Robert E. Lee Ronald Reagan Leonidis I
To name some.
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Post by Sulla on Nov 7, 2019 2:19:36 GMT
Hypatia of Alexandria Veronica Franco Napoleon Bonaparte Louis-Nicolas Davout Dolley Madison Chief Joseph (Nez Perce) Standing Bear (Ponca chief) James Longstreet Hanna Reich John "Mad Jack" Churchill Lenny Skutnik
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Post by Zos on Nov 8, 2019 12:01:58 GMT
Aleister Crowley Austin Osman Spare Oscar Wilde Ernest Dowson Aubrey Beardsley Charles Baudelaire Eliphas Levi Madam Blavatsky
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Post by enigma72 on Nov 8, 2019 21:06:39 GMT
Jesus
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Post by sadsaak on Nov 8, 2019 22:29:15 GMT
A nice Jewish lad. Got a bit carried away with the religious malarky towards the end, but liked a drink and a quiet joke John 8:1-11 King James Version (KJV) 8 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. 2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. 3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
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Post by needysboy on Nov 9, 2019 1:11:44 GMT
Benjamin Disraeli.
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Post by Morgana on Nov 9, 2019 8:13:53 GMT
Hypatia of Alexandria Veronica Franco Napoleon Bonaparte Louis-Nicolas Davout Dolley Madison Chief Joseph (Nez Perce) Standing Bear (Ponca chief) James Longstreet Hanna Reich John "Mad Jack" Churchill Lenny Skutnik Hi, Sulla. Have you seen the series about Hypatia? She was a great woman; it's sad how badly her life ended.
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Post by Morgana on Nov 9, 2019 8:16:22 GMT
Jesus Alexander the Great Boudicca
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Nov 9, 2019 8:19:12 GMT
Tomyris of the Massagetae
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Post by Sulla on Nov 10, 2019 4:19:08 GMT
Hypatia of Alexandria Veronica Franco Napoleon Bonaparte Louis-Nicolas Davout Dolley Madison Chief Joseph (Nez Perce) Standing Bear (Ponca chief) James Longstreet Hanna Reich John "Mad Jack" Churchill Lenny Skutnik Hi, Sulla. Have you seen the series about Hypatia? She was a great woman; it's sad how badly her life ended. Hi, Morgana, No, I didn't know there's a series. I've only seen Agora (2009). She had to be an exceptional woman to achieve the status she enjoyed at that time.
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