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Post by movieliker on Nov 7, 2019 15:48:51 GMT
Some of the dumbest and least realistic TV and movie cliches I see over and over are;
1) People never closing or locking the door when they use the bathroom, or have sex. And of course somebody always walks in while they are getting down to business. Supposedly setting up an embarrassing and/or humorous scene --- that would never happen if the victims would close and/or lock the door like normal people. 2) When a couple starts getting intimate and they apparently are going to have sex, the girl leaves the room (supposedly to get ready for sex) and the guy, standing alone in the room, gets undressed so he will be all ready when she returns. (Usually another set up for an embarrassing or humorous scene.) When I get intimate with a woman, we start kissing, hugging and undressing each other. Nobody leaves the room. And if she did, I would never get undressed without her. Seems insultingly presumptuous. 3) People walking in and out of their homes, apartments, bedrooms and bathrooms without knocking. Normal people lock their doors, and knock before entering somebody else's home, apartment, bedroom or bathroom. 4) In action movies, the bad guy talks too much and too long, explaining his motives and plans, before killing the good guy. Giving the good guy a chance to escape, be rescued, or get the upper hand. When the good guy takes down the bad guy, he or she doesn't finish off the bad guy, and often turns their back, leaving a weapon within arm's reach of the bad guy. You just know the bad guy is going to come back and launch another attack. 5) People being trouble makers just to create conflict. Not realistic or interesting. Normally people try to get along and avoid trouble. Or they try to stay away from trouble makers.
What do you think?
Can you think of anymore?
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Post by koskiewicz on Nov 7, 2019 17:03:53 GMT
In both TV and cinema, the mandatory foot chase scene is rampant.
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Post by movieliker on Nov 7, 2019 17:07:10 GMT
In both TV and cinema, the mandatory foot chase scene is rampant. Usually with constantly changing distances between the chaser and chasee.
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Post by Catman on Nov 7, 2019 17:13:15 GMT
The monster is never dead even if you think you've killed it.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 7, 2019 17:27:37 GMT
Don`t know if this is actually a cliche
Its impossible to shoot the hero even if you shoot after with thousands of bullets, Or you will hit the hero one time but never in a place that could kill the hero.
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Nov 7, 2019 17:33:19 GMT
In both TV and cinema, the mandatory foot chase scene is rampant. If a parade is involved, the person being chased will escape.
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Post by 博:Dr.BLΔD€:锯 on Nov 7, 2019 17:51:25 GMT
I love the dumb cliches.....reminds me I'm watching a movie.
Folk deciding splitting up in a dark place is best course of action .....so the naughty nemesis can kill/hack/dismember them individually .
A guy getting punched in the face and kicked in the slats heavily about 4O times before he decides to collapse.
American couples have a few cross words.....and then one of them tells their best mate next morning 'We had a FiGHT."
Military folk and cops swearing prôfusely and having 63 different ways of using the word A§§.
Gangsters talking hoarsely about honor eating pasta and sipping espresso, clipping their sons round the ear for swearing......then excusing themselves before leaving the table to drive loudly to decapitate Jimmy The Foofy......and extort shopkeepers out of their profits.
Love the movies.
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Post by movieliker on Nov 7, 2019 18:02:14 GMT
Don`t know if this is actually a cliche Its impossible to shoot the hero even if you shoot after with thousands of bullets, Or you will hit the hero one time but never in a place that could kill the hero. Absolutely. There are movies and TV shows where we are supposed to be watching experienced skilled killers. But they get in a gunfight, shoot a million bullets, and hit nothing. A skilled experienced killer would not be such a bad shot. And along the same note, only in the movies and TV would anybody be able to endure the beating the characters experience during the big fight scenes. In reality they would be finished much sooner.
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Post by vegalyra on Nov 7, 2019 18:40:16 GMT
Never saying "bye" or "nice talking to you" on the phone when ending a conversation.
People abruptly getting up during a meeting when there is a disagreement and basically doing a "drop the mic" speech before they walk out. (This was horribly overdone in Designated Survivor - people having a meeting with the US President and walking out on him).
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Post by movieliker on Nov 7, 2019 20:25:50 GMT
Never saying "bye" or "nice talking to you" on the phone when ending a conversation. People abruptly getting up during a meeting when there is a disagreement and basically doing a "drop the mic" speech before they walk out. (This was horribly overdone in Designated Survivor - people having a meeting with the US President and walking out on him). I think this dovetails with my developing general thesis. All this seems consistent with the "soap opera", "Real Housewives of Wherever" phenomenon --- conflict and drama is created by people not getting along, personality conflicts, and creating trouble for no reason. Movies and TV shows are not satisfied with people working together to solve a common problem or threat. (Even one as massive as aliens attacking Earth and threatening all of humanity.) They also need "the people working together" to not get along, argue, fight, etc. It all seems petty, childish, and ridiculous to me. It causes me to lose interest. I don't find troublemakers who cannot get along with others interesting in real life. And I don't find them interesting in movies and TV shows. If all the characters in a movie or TV show are not interesting to me because they are all petty, immature troublemakers, I am no longer interested in the movie or TV show. I am probably not the target audience for most movies and TV shows. I am 60. And I believe the 13 to 30 age crowd is the target audience. By definition those people would more likely be more petty, silly, immature and unable to get along, than a 60 year old.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 7, 2019 20:38:18 GMT
Aliens who are vastly more intelligent and advanced than we are, but we beat them anyway by "ingenuity," plain guts, or exploiting an Achilles' Heel.
The psychological trauma/attitude problem of female character is cured (or at least temporarily relieved) by a Dose of Good Luvin' from the hero.
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Post by movieliker on Nov 7, 2019 21:25:34 GMT
Aliens who are vastly more intelligent and advanced than we are, but we beat them anyway by "ingenuity," plain guts, or exploiting an Achilles' Heel. The psychological trauma/attitude problem of female character is cured (or at least temporarily relieved) by a Dose of Good Luvin' from the hero. I would think your second point would be an insult to most women. "All you need is some good sex from your man. And all your problems will be cured, at least temporarily."
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 7, 2019 21:32:03 GMT
Aliens who are vastly more intelligent and advanced than we are, but we beat them anyway by "ingenuity," plain guts, or exploiting an Achilles' Heel. The psychological trauma/attitude problem of female character is cured (or at least temporarily relieved) by a Dose of Good Luvin' from the hero. I would think your second point would be an insult to most women. "All you need is some good sex from your man. And all your problems will be cured, at least temporarily."Yes i would think so.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Nov 7, 2019 21:52:48 GMT
If you're trying to escape from a bad guy who is holding you prisoner...don’t settle for just one whack to the noggin – keep on clobbering!
If two people who shouldn't be kissing each other eventually do...you can bet there'll be someone there to witness it happening (usually revealed in the background when the two people kissing pull apart).
When a good guy/girl has to be mean/nasty to their love interest in order to drive them away and "keep them safe" from bad guys.
This^ hardly ever works, though, as the bad guys usually know that it's just an act and will go after the love interest anyway.
A cough in a TV show is seldom, if ever, just "nothing".
It bugs me when people sit down at a bar/table with a freshly poured drink, maybe take a sip or two (if that), and then leave without having drunk the whole thing (oftentimes it's because they're storming off in a huff, having just had an argument with someone else at the bar/table - though sometimes it might not be an argument, it's just that they apparently have enough money to throw away on drinks that they waste).
When a character walks into their home and find another character sitting on a chair in their lounge in the dark. Now, how did the character who was sitting there know when the owner of the house would be home? Or have they been sitting their for ages, waiting? If so, what did they do while waiting? Just once, the character (who obviously thought it would be so 'cool'/creepily effective to be sitting there in the dark waiting for the homeowner to return and give them a fright) should have fallen asleep while they waited and wind up being the one who gets a fright when the person they were waiting for returns home.
Whenever someone tells someone else over the phone they have any sort of important information...but they can't tell them it over the phone and instead they have to meet in person (usually later on), it's almost always a guarantee that the person with the information will meet an untimely end before they pass this information on. Just tell them when you're talking to them, don't wait!
If a character gets in a vehicle and the camera focuses on them inserting the key into the ignition and turning the key...chances are that vehicle is going to explode.
A character approaching a villain (usually the Big Bad) with a hidden knife and pretending to be on their side, only to go for an overhead stab – which typically never seems to work, as the villain can see it coming from a mile away and has more than enough time to block it, then usually kills the character who attempted it.
A character standing across the street/some distance away from another character, then a vehicle or a bunch of people pass by in front of them and suddenly the character's disappeared.
If a villain wants a hero (who is undercover with the villains) to prove their loyalty/allegiance, and presents them with a gun whilst telling them to kill someone (usually an innocent or someone who's a good guy), the person who is handed the gun will either not end up going through with the shooting or they will try to shoot the villain...except the gun is empty and it was just a test, so they've just given themselves up. This can also happen with villain lackeys who wind up switching sides and try to help the hero, and the villain wants proof of their allegiance by having them kill the hero - which usually leads to the lackey winding up dead. In this type of situation, it would pay to know the difference in weight between a gun that is loaded and one that is empty.
Another thing that always bugs me is when the villain is in the process of almost killing the hero, and the hero is reaching for something that will ultimately be the villain's undoing - but the villain doesn't take any notice of the hero reaching for something and instead will just concentrate on what's right in front of them and not wonder to themselves, "Hmm, what is he/she reaching for with his/her hand?".
Also, when a good guy has seemingly killed the villain (who is either lying face-down or, if they're lying face up, they're just staying perfectly still - usually with their eyes closed), but then has to walk up close enough to them to check they're dead/finish them off, thereby giving the villain the chance to - shockingly - open their eyes/turn over and stab/shoot/kill the good guy.
And lastly...why do villains who are intent on killing good guys think that tossing said good guy away from them is the best course of action? I mean, if you've got your hands on the good guy...just break their neck or something, WHY throw them away from you? It's defeating the purpose of you wanting to kill them. You're basically giving them a head-start to escape from you.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 8, 2019 9:35:29 GMT
One character becoming progressively less intelligent throughout the show.
People's children hardly ever being featured unless it's for a specific plot point.
Episodes that have a kid doing a science project that's invariably about the solar system or volcanoes.
People always eating Chinese food straight from the containers.
Dads being useless but fun, and mums being long-suffering nags.
Women wearing a full face of makeup to go to sleep.
Men ending up with a medical problem that puts them in pain at the same time a female character is going into labour.
Everyone living in inexplicably nice apartments that they definitely wouldn’t be able to afford.
Random siblings popping up for an episode or two to cause some conflict.
Anyone with glasses always being shown as smart but unpopular.
Episodes that take place in the past or future showing a character looking super different, which can be hard to believe when that character has looked the same for years on the show.
An "attractiveness gap" between couples that means women are always the more conventionally attractive partner.
Women going into labour at super inconvenient times.
Will-they-won't-they couples rarely being allowed to be happy once they're together.
People getting into a job industry with little experience or qualifications.
Shows having one person who everybody hates and is mean to, with no real reasoning behind it.
Women who don't want children becoming parents, even if that storyline doesn't fit with their personality.
And characters who really want children are always the ones who struggle to conceive.
A group of friends all dating other people within the group.
A regular table constantly being available at the group's local hangout.
And characters waking up in the morning and being completely shocked by who they've slept with the night before.
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Post by staggerstag on Nov 8, 2019 12:41:51 GMT
The keys to the car are always behind the sun visor.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 8, 2019 14:43:00 GMT
If you are deaf on the left hear and somebody speaks to you on the left side you don`t hear them because sound on movies\tv shows don`t move around the head to the other ear.
Or the right hear same thing.
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Post by movieliker on Nov 8, 2019 17:46:07 GMT
People not closing their blinds or curtains at night when having sex, taking a shower or bath, walking around naked, or even hiding out from the bad guys (criminals) or good guys (police). Especially in the big city. You can see the buildings in the background.
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Post by movieliker on Nov 8, 2019 17:52:36 GMT
People not locking their vehicle doors when driving. Especially in the city at night.
I guess they don't have car jackings or car accidents in movies and TV shows.
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Post by movieliker on Nov 8, 2019 18:02:07 GMT
This is more an example of bad acting than a cliche. But it happens a lot.
The driver of a vehicle not keeping their eyes on the road. But looking and staring at the other people in the vehicle, they are talking with.
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