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Post by chasallnut on Apr 18, 2017 16:35:03 GMT
Honestly, I thought the first one was just okay. It wasn't as good as people were making it out to be. A lot of the humor felt really forced. It was on tv (terrestrial) last night, so I watched it again. I did enjoy it first time around but on second viewing I thought it was average. It just felt like they were playing for laughs and with an exceptionally poor villain. Sort of like Galaxy Quest with a bigger budget (the villain was better In Galaxy Quest). The scene with Yondu taking out a dozen enemies was one of the many ridiculous scenes. Each to their own I guess. I will watch the second movie but there is nothing to suggest it ill be any better.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Apr 18, 2017 17:31:15 GMT
Reviews are going to be off the charts good and this film is going to blow the box office to pieces. Gotta love your confidence and enthusiasm there, sir.
I'm almost certain I'm going to love it but, I'm easy to please. It is so disheartening that so many of us as fans are always perpetually dissatisfied, hyper-critical and butthurt over everything.SaveSaveSaveSaveFor the record I love everything MCU. I'll watch every second of ever film and it's been so good I consider it to be the greatest achievement in film history. And let that sink it for a second. They'll have 20+ films soon, a dozen seasons of television and even the worst of it is still pretty good, not to mention how many truly great entries they have put up. It's an amazing series and I love it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 17:58:07 GMT
Iam excited to see this with my wife and kids.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 18:59:09 GMT
Schnepp said it was uneven, but he still liked it. Harloff gave it a resounding MEH (and this was his most anticipated CBM). Jeff Sneider also said it didn't really work this time. It was too forced (and I felt the first one was too forced). Even in a lot of the positive reviews (like Frosty from Collider), you can tell that it's not anything groundbreaking. At worst, it's meh. At best, it's not as good as the first one. Confirmed. Confirmed even... Well lets wait and see for ourselves.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 18, 2017 20:01:38 GMT
Gotta love your confidence and enthusiasm there, sir.
I'm almost certain I'm going to love it but, I'm easy to please. It is so disheartening that so many of us as fans are always perpetually dissatisfied, hyper-critical and butthurt over everything.SaveSaveSaveSave For the record I love everything MCU. I'll watch every second of ever film and it's been so good I consider it to be the greatest achievement in film history. And let that sink it for a second. They'll have 20+ films soon, a dozen seasons of television and even the worst of it is still pretty good, not to mention how many truly great entries they have put up. It's an amazing series and I love it. Well, when you put it like that, you simply can't deny that the MCU is a towering achievement. I would honestly be okay if it never ended. In my humble opinion, they haven't made an out-and-out bad film yet. Studios will pour over their strategies for decades to come.
I want two thing from them more than anything.
Consolidate the power base - all IP under one studio roof. No matter what it costs. They've got the capital. Groom a successor - Kevin can't do this forever - Gunn is my number one draft pick. SaveSaveSaveSaveSaveSave
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Apr 19, 2017 4:04:20 GMT
Well, when you put it like that, you simply can't deny that the MCU is a towering achievement. I would honestly be okay if it never ended. In my humble opinion, they haven't made an out-and-out bad film yet. Studios will pour over their strategies for decades to come.
I want two thing from them more than anything.
Consolidate the power base - all IP under one studio roof. No matter what it costs. They've got the capital. Groom a successor - Kevin can't do this forever - Gunn is my number one draft pick. I agree,,,,, to an extent. I don't want it to be no matter what the cost, but they should wedge the FF rights away from Fox. If they suddenly got FF and everything that comes with that, they could run another decade of films on them as the new lead franchise.
And yes, grooming a successor is great, but then again Feige is young. He could do this for another 20 years if he wanted, so I don't think that is an immediate concern. If he finds himself not truly committed however, then by all means, he needs to hand it over to whoever is.
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Post by miike80 on Apr 19, 2017 6:27:28 GMT
John Campea: Guardians Vol 2 - More laughs, more excitement. Less story quality and more disjointed. Not as good as #1, but still quite worthy.
I take everything that Campea says with a pinch of salt. A man who considers Empire the weakest of the OT and Return of the Jedi the best is clearly not on the same page as me
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 6:32:21 GMT
And Dennis Reynolds once again proves that he is the most ignore-worthy person on the planet.
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Post by miike80 on Apr 19, 2017 10:30:13 GMT
Dennis Tzeng: #GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2 was entertaining and fun but wasn't as good as the first movie. The pacing and story was uneven and was missing some of the group dynamic. Still worth seeing though.
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Post by Jerk on Apr 19, 2017 13:16:57 GMT
Who cares? Watch the movie, decide for yourself and form your own opinions.
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Post by miike80 on Apr 19, 2017 15:52:46 GMT
Who cares? Watch the movie, decide for yourself and form your own opinions. As i said earlier in this topic there's zero chance of me not watching the movie as soon as i can. I just find the opinions interesting.
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Post by Jerk on Apr 19, 2017 16:15:12 GMT
Who cares? Watch the movie, decide for yourself and form your own opinions. As i said earlier in this topic there's zero chance of me not watching the movie as soon as i can. I just find the opinions interesting. That doesn't mean you're going to enjoy the movie though, right? I mean whats the point of predeciding you're going to like something based on what someone else thought? When only you know what you like. I don't know if I will like GOTGV2. I loved the first one and most of the MCU but that doesnt mean I will automatically like everything they will produce. Same goes for any franchise.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 19, 2017 16:24:51 GMT
As i said earlier in this topic there's zero chance of me not watching the movie as soon as i can. I just find the opinions interesting. That doesn't mean you're going to enjoy the movie though, right? I mean whats the point of predeciding you're going to like something based on what someone else thought? When only you know what you like. I don't know if I will like GOTGV2. I loved the first one and most of the MCU but that doesnt mean I will automatically like everything they will produce. Same goes for any franchise. Critics are conmen to a certain extent. When they form a positive opinion of something you are predisposed to like, they lend you their confidence. It works in the reverse direction when they form a negative opinion. It's only natural to become concerned or fascinated when someone you respect has a negative opinion of something you like or believe you will like. SaveSave
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Apr 19, 2017 16:30:00 GMT
As i said earlier in this topic there's zero chance of me not watching the movie as soon as i can. I just find the opinions interesting. That doesn't mean you're going to enjoy the movie though, right? I mean whats the point of predeciding you're going to like something based on what someone else thought? When only you know what you like. I don't know if I will like GOTGV2. I loved the first one and most of the MCU but that doesnt mean I will automatically like everything they will produce. Same goes for any franchise. I read for what they say in their opinion, not whether they ultimately liked it or not.
It's what they're saying about the narrative structure, characterization, focus of the film, etc that interests me. So I can read two films that score a 70% and know that one of them I'll have little interest in and the other I'll probably love. Usually that turns out to be correct.
If you're just reading for whether they liked the film or not, I think you're missing the point of the critic.
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Post by Jerk on Apr 19, 2017 16:30:54 GMT
That doesn't mean you're going to enjoy the movie though, right? I mean whats the point of predeciding you're going to like something based on what someone else thought? When only you know what you like. I don't know if I will like GOTGV2. I loved the first one and most of the MCU but that doesnt mean I will automatically like everything they will produce. Same goes for any franchise. Critics are conmen to a certain extent. When they form a positive opinion of something you are predisposed to like, they lend you their confidence. It works in the reverse direction when they form a negative opinion. It's only natural to become concerned or fascinated when someone you respect has a negative opinion of something you like or believe you will like. SaveSaveI can agree with that. I often find when I read a review or see a video review, after seeing the movie. I feel disappointed that their opinions are different. I do my best not to let others sway my opinion and stick to my own. But that doesnt mean it doesnt happen because sometimes they have a point.
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Post by Jerk on Apr 19, 2017 16:41:47 GMT
That doesn't mean you're going to enjoy the movie though, right? I mean whats the point of predeciding you're going to like something based on what someone else thought? When only you know what you like. I don't know if I will like GOTGV2. I loved the first one and most of the MCU but that doesnt mean I will automatically like everything they will produce. Same goes for any franchise. I read for what they say in their opinion, not whether they ultimately liked it or not.
It's what they're saying about the narrative structure, characterization, focus of the film, etc that interests me. So I can read two films that score a 70% and know that one of them I'll have little interest in and the other I'll probably love. Usually that turns out to be correct.
If you're just reading for whether they liked the film or not, I think you're missing the point of the critic.
My point is thst it's better not to let them plant ideas in your head and view movies with a fresh, clean perspective. Like you said about not watching trailers. Let the movie surprise you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 16:43:42 GMT
I hated the first. Maybe I'll enjoy the second, I guess I'll just have to see.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Apr 19, 2017 16:46:19 GMT
I read for what they say in their opinion, not whether they ultimately liked it or not.
It's what they're saying about the narrative structure, characterization, focus of the film, etc that interests me. So I can read two films that score a 70% and know that one of them I'll have little interest in and the other I'll probably love. Usually that turns out to be correct.
If you're just reading for whether they liked the film or not, I think you're missing the point of the critic.
My point is thst it's better not to let them plant ideas in your head and view movies with a fresh, clean perspective. Like you said about not watching trailers. Let the movie surprise you. You let them plant ideas in your head?
I read for common thoughts that are continuously expressed. Sometimes those might be expressed negatively but I'll realize I enjoy that type of filmmaking. Or I read for really unique or interesting observations.
I don't even watch trailers, so I'm definitely going in with a fresh clean perspective.
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Post by Jerk on Apr 19, 2017 16:48:34 GMT
My point is thst it's better not to let them plant ideas in your head and view movies with a fresh, clean perspective. Like you said about not watching trailers. Let the movie surprise you. You let them plant ideas in your head?
I read for common thoughts that are continuously expressed. Sometimes those might be expressed negatively but I'll realize I enjoy that type of filmmaking. Or I read for really unique or interesting observations.
I don't even watch trailers, so I'm definitely going in with a fresh clean perspective.
I dont let them do that. Because as an individual I dont care for common thought or group think.
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Post by Jerk on Apr 19, 2017 16:49:49 GMT
My point is thst it's better not to let them plant ideas in your head and view movies with a fresh, clean perspective. Like you said about not watching trailers. Let the movie surprise you. You let them plant ideas in your head?
I read for common thoughts that are continuously expressed. Sometimes those might be expressed negatively but I'll realize I enjoy that type of filmmaking. Or I read for really unique or interesting observations.
I don't even watch trailers, so I'm definitely going in with a fresh clean perspective.
Obviously I didn't mean that my last point has to apply to everyone. As I always point out. It's just my preference.
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