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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 19, 2017 21:44:13 GMT
It's not that I can't STAND it, but it does strike me as strange and a little bit ridiculous that Disney is pushing all of it with a straight face. But, I mean, they're raking it in, so good for them, I suppose.  Well, excuse them for using the assets they have at their disposal and being very creative and smart about it. You are literally the only comic book fan I've ever known who hates seeing lesser known comic book superheroes get a chance to shine. I'll remember the stance you've taken when an obscure superhero you do like gets a movie made about them. Alright boys, time to move along. SaveSave |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 20, 2017 0:38:52 GMT
Well, excuse them for using the assets they have at their disposal and being very creative and smart about it. You are literally the only comic book fan I've ever known who hates seeing lesser known comic book superheroes get a chance to shine. I'll remember the stance you've taken when an obscure superhero you do like gets a movie made about them. Alright boys, time to move along. SaveSaveBut we just got here! And I haven't even busted raptor's balls for -- OMG A CLOAK AND DAGGER SHOW I AM MARKING OUT!!!!1 |
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 23, 2017 13:36:17 GMT
Surprised there's even this level of interest for ANOTHER movie about a Z-list job squad dicking around in space while exchanging "witty" banter. Least it has Big Dave and that cute little baby tree, I suppose... You just described the first Star Wars movie, except for Bautista and Groot. |
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Post by spooner5020 on Apr 23, 2017 13:59:19 GMT
Surprised there's even this level of interest for ANOTHER movie about a Z-list job squad dicking around in space while exchanging "witty" banter. Least it has Big Dave and that cute little baby tree, I suppose... That was quite colorful. I think you'll be happy to know that many of the critical elite are calling this installment a sure fire case of the sophomore-sequel blues. SaveSaveIs that meaning bad? Because I think you're making shit up. Reviews for it have been amazing!!! |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Apr 23, 2017 15:06:01 GMT
It's not that I can't STAND it, but it does strike me as strange and a little bit ridiculous that Disney is pushing all of it with a straight face. But, I mean, they're raking it in, so good for them, I suppose. Why would that be strange? It's a great product, and when they reintroduced that version of the team in the comics it was massively popular.
Just because it was a newer team and not a part of the golden age comic characters you always think about doesn't mean it wasn't awesome. They knew it, and as a fan of the comic, I would say they nailed it. If you read the books, what you see in the films is what you get. It's fun, it's exciting, it's always new and wildly adventurous.
Why would they not push that?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 23, 2017 15:29:00 GMT
It's not that I can't STAND it, but it does strike me as strange and a little bit ridiculous that Disney is pushing all of it with a straight face. But, I mean, they're raking it in, so good for them, I suppose. Why would that be strange? It's a great product, and when they reintroduced that version of the team in the comics it was massively popular.
Just because it was a newer team and not a part of the golden age comic characters you always think about doesn't mean it wasn't awesome. They knew it, and as a fan of the comic, I would say they nailed it. If you read the books, what you see in the films is what you get. It's fun, it's exciting, it's always new and wildly adventurous.
Why would they not push that?
They should push it. Because "they" are smart business executives whose job it is to make money for Disney's shareholders. But as a lifelong fan of comics in general, the announcement of a Guardians movie was the canary in the coal mine for me that they're basically scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point and putting lipstick on a gerbil. I would say lipstick on a pig, but Sony has rights to the pigs, and Fox has the rights to anything else with any actual legacy on which to draw that's worth adapting. Personally: I think the IP is trash, the characters are sixth-rate, the hipster/"cool" packaging is too cute by half, and the characters have no significant history in comics in which I possess even a shred of fan interest. So it's strange for me to see it succeed since I genuinely see nothing redeeming in "Guardians" on any level whatsoever; it's hack as fuck and represents what I perceive to be the worst aspects of both Hollywood in general and comic book movies specifically. But I'm sure others might say the same thing (for different reasons) about stuff I like, etc. etc. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Apr 23, 2017 15:31:47 GMT
They should push it. Because "they" are smart business executives whose job it is to make money for Disney's shareholders. But as a lifelong fan of comics in general, the announcement of a Guardians movie was the canary in the coal mine for me that they're basically scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point and putting lipstick on a gerbil. I would say lipstick on a pig, but Sony has rights to the pigs, and Fox has the rights to anything else with any actual legacy on which to draw that's worth adapting. Personally: I think the IP is trash, the characters are sixth-rate, the hipster/"cool" packaging is too cute by half, and the characters have no significant history in comics in which I possess even a shred of fan interest. So it's strange for me to see it succeed since I genuinely see nothing redeeming in "Guardians" on any level whatsoever; it's hack as fuck and represents what I perceive to be the worst aspects of both Hollywood in general and comic book movies specifically. But I'm sure others might say the same thing (for different reasons) about stuff I like, etc. etc. It wasn't scraping the bottom of the barrel at all. Are you serious? Guardians of the Galaxy was probably the most exciting announcement I'd ever heard. It's why we're getting Elders, why we might see the Watcher, why we're getting Adam Warlock. It was born out of the Annihilation Wave! No significant history? Nothing redeeming? Are you on crack?
No offense, but what kind of comic fan are you if that didn't excite the hell out of you?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 15:40:46 GMT
Who cares? Watch the movie, decide for yourself and form your own opinions. True dat |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 23, 2017 15:42:29 GMT
They should push it. Because "they" are smart business executives whose job it is to make money for Disney's shareholders. But as a lifelong fan of comics in general, the announcement of a Guardians movie was the canary in the coal mine for me that they're basically scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point and putting lipstick on a gerbil. I would say lipstick on a pig, but Sony has rights to the pigs, and Fox has the rights to anything else with any actual legacy on which to draw that's worth adapting. Personally: I think the IP is trash, the characters are sixth-rate, the hipster/"cool" packaging is too cute by half, and the characters have no significant history in comics in which I possess even a shred of fan interest. So it's strange for me to see it succeed since I genuinely see nothing redeeming in "Guardians" on any level whatsoever; it's hack as fuck and represents what I perceive to be the worst aspects of both Hollywood in general and comic book movies specifically. But I'm sure others might say the same thing (for different reasons) about stuff I like, etc. etc. It wasn't scraping the bottom of the barrel at all. Are you serious? Guardians of the Galaxy was probably the most exciting announcement I'd ever heard. It's why we're getting Elders, why we might see the Watcher, why we're getting Adam Warlock.
No offense, but what kind of comic fan are you if that didn't excite the hell out of you?
I was sure it would be Marvel's Waterloo, because all of the stuff you're referring to is super-inside and unironically dorky and has almost no allegorical/"literary" value. Marvel-wise: I've always been an X-books fan first, a Spider-books fan second, a Daredevil fan third, and then basically: respectful of Hulk and FF for their importance and uniqueness, tolerant of Marvel's pool of sad/second-rate JLA wannabes (i.e., "The Avengers") because I know why they're important to the "Marvel story," and totally disinterested in their hard-nerd, super-lame, straight-up fantasy Adam Warlock/Infinity Gems stuff rehashed from the fifties or whatever. I liked comics as a kid because they were capable of being more than people who look down at them thought they could be, not less. So, to answer your question: not historically a fan of that aspect of Marvel's catalogue. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Apr 23, 2017 16:26:59 GMT
because all of the stuff is dorky and has almost no allegorical/"literary" value. Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr oooooooooo k |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 23, 2017 16:35:11 GMT
bahaha, I'm sure that was the last answer you were expecting or prepared for. "Because [those] comics are for fucking LOSERS." Womp. |
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Post by politicidal on Apr 23, 2017 17:11:37 GMT
They left out a lot of the middling responses from people like Jon Schnepp and Kristian Harloff. That last one called it forced and gave it 2.5/4 stars. |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 23, 2017 17:37:12 GMT
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 23, 2017 17:44:14 GMT
Because, in the parlance of Jack Nicholson's Joker, "this town needs an enema." Which is to say: somebody's gotta be the gadfly; hence the handle.  |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 23, 2017 17:52:48 GMT
Because, in the parlance of Jack Nicholson's Joker, "this town needs an enema." Which is to say: somebody's gotta be the gadfly; hence the handle. You are the fly in your own disappointment, coldenhaulfield. SaveSave |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 23, 2017 17:56:04 GMT
Because, in the parlance of Jack Nicholson's Joker, "this town needs an enema." Which is to say: somebody's gotta be the gadfly; hence the handle. You are the fly in your own disappointment, coldenhaulfield . SaveSaveAin't that the truth!  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 14:36:59 GMT
It's currently got over 90% on RT, but all of the reviews are very middling. This is the problem with RT. People don't know how to interpret it. You could look at that score an think "Marvel knocks it out of the park again!" instead of "Most people just didn't hate it."
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on Apr 24, 2017 14:42:04 GMT
It's currently got over 90% on RT, but all of the reviews are very middling. This is the problem with RT. People don't know how to interpret it. You could look at that score an think "Marvel knocks it out of the park again!" instead of "Most people just didn't hate it." The RT consensus summarizes it well. SaveSave |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 14:59:18 GMT
It's currently got over 90% on RT, but all of the reviews are very middling. This is the problem with RT. People don't know how to interpret it. You could look at that score an think "Marvel knocks it out of the park again!" instead of "Most people just didn't hate it." The RT consensus summarizes it well. SaveSaveMost of the reviews be like meh. |
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Post by spooner5020 on Apr 24, 2017 15:06:31 GMT
The RT consensus summarizes it well. SaveSaveMost of the reviews be like meh. Dennis no one is listening to you. You have been the biggest critcizer of marvel. All you have been saying is "ha marvel is failing". Marvel has made some just ok movies and yet you treat them like they are bad movies. Not every marvel movie is gonna be amazing. But there's one thing for sure. DC will never make a good movie. Don't bother trying to defend yourself either because everyone is tired of you. |
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